Relocation vent....

I figured the cake thingy was a referance to a money issue. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing somthing. Your entirely right in that by the way. No way in heck I would be feeding 40 adults in this situation.

I totally agree on the money it is going somewhere. I know where very cent in my house goes and If we did not have that disclosure there would be some big Pow wows here.

Trust me... what can you do to make a grown man do what you want? There is alot you can do. And ;) even more you can NOT do.

Ok, I have to get off this thread now it is making me really appreciate my dh today... :worship:
 
DWhittles said:
Rita,
I couldn't write a script this bizzare. Trust me. Everything is fact and true. What doesn't add up? Maybe I can clear some stuff up for you?

I'm a complete stranger on an internet forum who just made an observation based on what I read. My opinions and observations are just that, and have no direct effect on your life, so there is no need for further clarification.

Good luck to you!
 
I really want so say I feel badly about your situation and give you a :hug: as I'm sure you could use another one.

In response to finding a new place to live, another option would be Nutley/Bloomfield/Belleville. I know Nutley has buses to NYC and I believe the others do too. The rent is within your price range for a 2 bedroom (my mom's friend is paying around $1200 for a 2 bedroom) and is pretty close to the city so the commute wouldn't be too bad. It's also a nice, safe town for your kids (the kids still walk home for lunch!) and there are plenty of small stores/restaurants/etc. where you could get a part time job when you're ready.

About your husband's behavior, I can somewhat sympathize. My husband has never fed our daughter, gotten up with her at night (well, once by force for about 3 minutes till I took over), 'baby-sat' her, or bathed her. He has changed a few diapers and outfits, but only if I tell him to, he never takes it upon himself to do those things and when I ask him he'll do it with a sigh or eyeroll. It's not that he doesn't love our daughter, cause he really does, but he feels that's my job, so maybe your husband thinks that way too? Like another poster said, it could be old fashioned thinking that he works outside the home and you work with the baby at home so he's your responsibility. But to really know if he thinks that, or if it's just that he isn't interested in his kids, you'd have to see how he acts with your son aside from caring for him. What I mean is, does he come home eager to play with your son and happy to see him and you, or does he not even acknowledge your presence? That would make a big difference to me regarding whether or not I'd stay with him because if he's not happy to see your and your son now, he probably won't change. Unfortunately, since he is playing video games on his day off and not 'peek a boo' I'm thinking he might just be too wrapped up in himself to worry about you or the kids. My husband doesn't have any video games, but I know if he did and sat playing them I'd get very irritated that he has his 'day off' yet I work 7 days a week (I'm also a SAHM). Luckily for me though he's not bad on the weekends and will play with our daughter (still not feed her or things liek that) so I do get somewhat of a break. Yeah, I'm still in the house as he'd freak out if he had to watch her by himself, but at least she has someone else to entertain her so I can do other things. If you can get him to move in that direction it will be a huge help for you, but he's only going to do it if he wants to.

I can sort of see staying with him though, at least temporarily, because at least you have the benefit of his salary and either way you're taking care of 2 kids by yourself. Once the new one is born and you're able to organize yourself and how your care for them maybe it will be easier for you to see all your options. If you get a part time job, or even a full time job if you can find cheaper childcare (which I know is hard), then maybe you'll feel more secure and can better evaluate where your relationship stands and if it's improving or not.

The money thing is also tough, and without those issues I'm sure things would be a bit better for you. We also have those issues since I'm a SAHM and my husband is in medical school. For us though, it's not as bad, since we know there's an end in sight once my husband finishes his residency and we pay off all our loans, but for now we live on loans and money from my mom, which is hard. My husband often works from 5am-8pm (and is on call overnight at the hospital for 36 hours at a time twice a week) so I'm the full time caregiver too. In fact, until my daughter was about 7 months old, she'd cry when my husband picked her up! But she likes him much more now and gets very happy when he comes home and that has made him want to interact with her more. So look at how your PJ interacts with your husband because if he's a bit afraid or cautious with him it might make your husband less likely to bother with him. I know my BIL was like that with my nephew as an infant, always handing him back to SIL because he 'didn't want' his father. Well, yeah, he didn't, cause he knew his father was afraid of him and his mom was much more comfortable.

We sorta planned our daughter, but 'planned' that she'd be born around now, but instead she turned 11 months old today, so sorta not predicted and I know how that feels, but I could never have considered adoption and if we found out we were having #2 now I couldn't think about it with that one either. I am also expected to do things like find a new home for us, all that stuff (we sorta shut down moving for the time being though since our daugter sleeps with us anyway so we don't need a 2 bedroom yet), and my husband feels that since he's gone all day that I should be doing these things while I'm home, so I can empathize, and want to let you know that you're not the only one out there. :hug:

I really hope things start to look up for you and your family soon. :hug: :hug:
 
DMickey28 said:
I think the things that don't add up are because we can see everything objectively from here. It is probably a series of excuses made by her DH as to why he can't care for the child, as well as excuses that she makes for her DH because as much as she may see things as being "wrong" she loves him and part of her needs to stand up for him. I don't think it's a story or a lie... too long and too consistent to be fake. It's just an awful situation to be in.

All the advice on here, minus the adoption, I agree with. I can see adoption as a objective, uninvolved solution however in reality it's not a real life solution.

There is nothing more I can add, other than say I hope the OP gets the help she needs and hope she desires that help soon.

The only questions I have seen go unanswered here is what happens to the approx. $1900/month after rent... however the OP doesn't have to answer to us and I understand that. She probably doesn't even know since she doesn't have an control over the finances...
Finances in our household 101...
Every two weeks he brings home roughly $1700. Times 2 that's $3400 a month. Our rent is $1250 a month. Our phone bill is a set $78.00 a month. Our cable bill is $157.00 a month (that includes internet access) and our electric is always about $150 (though this month it was $374.00 beacuse they finally read our meter and adjusted the bill that they've been estimating.)That leaves us with $1765. Then Mike pays $60 a month for his commute and we pay about $50 for his prescriptions each month. Food is around $400 a month. We don't have a washer and dryer in the apartment so I have to go across the street to do it. Each load of laundry is $5 and each dryer is about $2 so about $84 a month on laundry.
He gets his shirts dry cleaned every week for work and that's $20 each week.
I know there are other expenses I'm going to remember the second I hit send on this email but that's a rough breakdown of our expenses.
 

Fantastic post, JustThat!!! :worship:
 
Get rid of cable/internet. You'll be fine without them.
 
danacara said:
Sheri - that was a very cool offer on your part. Snaps to Sheri. :)

Weird thing that someone pointed out to me: if you google this original poster by her full name, which I won't write here, but is super-easy to figure out ... you see a post she made on another message board, where she asked for the name of a New York City bakery that uses non-buttercream icing, because she was having a first birthday party for her son and inviting 40 adults, and she hates buttercream ... this was three weeks ago? Hope the cake turned out well ...
LOL, you don't have to be Nancy Drew to figure out my full name!
That was 3 weeks ago and it was for my son's first birthday party. I do hate buttercream icing.
The party went well and more than 1/2 of the invited adults didn't show beacuse of the weather which was fine.
Everyone was super geneous to PJ and he's got a hefty savings account going for his college fund!
Why were you googling me anyway? You can ask me anything you want to. I'm an open book and if I don't want to tell ya, I'll let ya know
 
danacara said:
A party for 40 with a custom cake? decisions decisions decisions ---
Dana,
I'm laughing. I LOVE LOVE LOVE to plan things. Big birthday parties and stuff. I do all the research and then get real and stick with what I can afford. We went to costco for the cake which cost under $20.00...
Dreaming never hurt anyone though. I also love to plan dream vacations that I'll never take!
 
The money isn't adding up for me. I GET that 60k isn't a lot in the NYC area but I also get that not too long ago that's roughly what my DH made.
I also know that our mortgage was roughly the same as the OPs rent. I also know that we had a car payment which with gas and insurance has got to be more than the OPs DH's commuting costs.
I'll conceede that utilities in that area are higher but still.

While we weren't rich, but we weren't scraping by and relying on our family to keep our son in diapers and fed.

So what am I missing?

I have a feeling the OP doesn't know because she has no imput or control of the finances - just that they are broke.

I'm glad you are taking a hard look at your situation. I understand about having 2 kids in daycare. Even where I live I would lose money if I needed childcare for two.

Hopefully you can get the help you need.

Ok - you posted before I finished this. I'd ditch the cable/internet asap. We have Direct TV and pay less than $70 a month. Same with phone. Ours is $68 for unlimited local and unlimited longdistance. That INCLUDES all the taxes, fee and I think that's high. If you much keep the cable internet I'd look into some of the internet phone services that are so much cheaper.

I'd also get rid of any movie/premium channels you have.
 
I should also add that even though we don't have a real income either, we're having a birthday party for my daughter's 1st birthday too. We can't fit anyone in our apt. (yes, I'm serious, we had 4 people and a 1yo over last year for the superbowl and some had to sit on the floor, and that was before my daughter and all her gear came into the house) so we're having it at the Rainforest Cafe, which is $13.99/kid, plus we have to feed the parents. Seems silly for unemployed people, but it's important to us to do for our daughter, so I totally understand you having a party for your son. (Though I will say the best bakery I know of is Carlo's in Hoboken!)
 
Jenn Lynn said:
Isn't he a problem because you can't REALLY afford him?
I know I shouldn't say this or type this or even THINK this but Humphrey is the most low maintenence dog on the planet. He goes to the vet once a year (we take him to a vet at the family house in the Berkshires beacuse it's a fraction of the cost of the vet here in Hoboken) and doesn't really eat much in the way of dog food. He eats what we eat. (yeah flame away for me feeding my dog people food I know) I buy that HUGE HUGE bag of dog food at Costco and it lasts us a very long time.
If he were at all like my mom's Basset Hound Audrey I'd have no choice but to give him up. Audrey is always sick and her vet bills this year alone have been astounding.
He sleeps all day long and doesn't bother anyone. He gets along with PJ (I call them best friends) and it seems to be working out fine for now.
Once the new baby comes, I don't know but we will see...
 
Crankyshank said:
The point of getting rid of the video games is just like removing them from a child's possession. If he devotes an entire day to gaming instead of his family, then he needs them taken away until he helps out more around the house. No video game= he has to do something else on Sunday.
But he ISN'T a child. He's a 32 year old man! Besides, the uproar that would cause around here isn't at all worth it.
 
Jenn Lynn said:
What about your Dad? He is already sort of supporting you. Whay can't you move in with him? It sounds like he knows the situation already and maybe more willing than you think to take you guys in.
My dad has a 1 bedroom apartment in Bay Ridge. He is also my greatest ally in this battle because he does know EVERYTHING that goes on. The trouble is dad isn't in the best of health (he's having double knee replacement surgery at the end of February followed by Heart Surgery in April)
He also loves his swingin single lifestyle and frequently has ladies over. I refuse to be witness to THAT!
A serious option for us is the family house in the Berkshires.
I'll have to look into it
 
Chronologically he might not be a child but he's certainly acting like one.
If he wants to act like one, then his toy needs to be taken away. If he wants to help out and act like a grownup then he can play with it.

There are plenty of ways to get your husband to help out. You need to put your foot down and excuse my bluntness, grow some mall body parts.
 
Family house in the berkshires? He's complaining about a commute from the burbs into NYC but he'll commute from the berkshires? :rotfl2:
 
The Family House in the Berkshires ...
I really need to stop posting and start using this as a basis for a screenplay ...
 
I get the impression that the house in the Berkshires actually belongs to DWhittles family and not her DH. Am I correct? Could YOU move over there with the kids?
 
I could be wrong since I'm not Diana, but my thought was that her family owns the house and that she and the kids would move there themselves if they left Mike.
 
DWhittles said:
But he ISN'T a child. He's a 32 year old man!

He's sure not acting like one. Once he acts like an adult, treat him like one. As long as he is acting like a spoiled brat, I would treat him as a child. And that includes HIM being on an allowance, taking away video games and internet, and giving him chores and checking them off like you would for an 8 YO.
 
I'm sorry, but mentally, I'm still hurdling the shock of the Family House in the Berkshires ... the FAMILY HOUSE IN THE BERKSHIRES ...
 


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