Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[Disturbia]

I'm curious how the pricing will be if you have park hoppers. I understand the system and you start at one park and then you can grab another Lightening Lane at a different park if you want to park hop.

However, it appears that the pricing is still going to be date & park based. If that is the case, I am wondering if there is going to be a multi park option like there is now & you will have to buy that when you pre-plan to be able to get LL in the 2nd park. My guess is yes but we will find out.

My other hunch and I could be completely off base is that the Meet & Greets Lightening Lanes might show up each day vs. pre-planned so that adds another layer.

I do feel for those who are going in the middle of the change. Luckily, I am not going until 2025. I think I'm going to like the system once all the bugs are worked out and I figure out how to use it. The hardest part for me is the all or nothing for first picks when you have 1/2 the group liking the coasters and the other 1/2 not. I know you can modify but I can see where that can get tricky.

They might switch to Aladdin+ by 2025.

 

[imbelle]

They might switch to Aladdin+ by 2025.

Where you get three "wishes" and x-nay on wishing for more wishes?

 

[laughinplace199]

You will be able to book Genie+ daily as usual for July 21-23

The morning of July 24th, you'll be able to book using the new system for the 24th, 25th, and 26th

As for how it works, here's my attempt at some FAQs. I think this is all accurate (as of July 1st) but I'm open to input!

Do Lightning Lanes still cost money?
Yes, as with Genie+, access to Lightning Lanes is a paid service. Guests may purchase a "Lightning Lane Multi-Pass" (LLMP) which essentially replaces Genie+, and/or "Lightning Lane Single Pass" (LLSP), which is a new name for "Individual Lightning Lanes".

How much will it cost?
The current expectation is that, at least initially, costs for LLMP will be equivalent to the existing pricing for Genie+, while costs for LLSP will be equivalent to the existing pricing for ILLs.

Prices for all of those services are already variable, so it's impossible for us to say exactly what the price will be up-front. And of course, Disney will likely adjust pricing over time based on adoption rates.

What is a "Lightning Lane Multi-Pass" (LLMP)?
LLMP allows guests to book lightning lane access to the majority of park attractions. This includes the ability to pre-book attractions, as well as the ability to make additional selections throughout the day.

How many Lightning Lanes can I book in advance with LLMP?
You can pre-book three attractions per day.

These pre-bookings can include one 'tier 1' attraction and two (or three) 'tier 2' attractions, but only three total.

Can I pick my own booking windows?
Unlike with Genie+ you can book specific time windows, rather than next available slot. This is more like the old FP+ system.

Can I book multiple attractions for the same time?
With FastPass+ these windows could not overlap (e.g. if you had one pass for 10:05-11:05 you couldn't book another at 10:55-11:55). But there is some belief that the new system will allow up to 15 minutes of overlap. We will know for sure once it opens on the 24th!

What if there's no good availability for the day I'm booking? Am I stuck?
You make your selections before you pay for the pass, so if you don't like the availability you can just bail without paying.

Can I book additional passes with LLMP, or just those three?
While you can only pre-book three LL attractions with LLMP, you can keep a rolling three passes. This means that once you scan your first pass (or let it expire) you can book another one based on open availability.

Can I book additional Tier 1 attractions?
While you can only pre-book one Tier 1 attraction, your day-of additional passes can include additional Tier 1 attractions, based on availability.

Does Lightning Lane Multi Pass include all the attractions that were in Genie+?
No, as of right now all character meet-and-greets have been removed from the list of Lightning Lane attractions.

Can I use the Lightning Lane for the same attraction multiple times per day?
No, you can only use a Lightning Lane once per attraction, per day. Presumably you could ride again via standby.

Can I book passes at multiple parks?
Your initial pre-booked attractions all have to be in one park. But, your day-of passes can be at another park.

For example: you pre-book three attractions at MK, but once you scan in for your first attraction you can book a new LL pass for an attraction at EPCOT.

Can I modify my bookings if plans change?
Yes, you will be able to modify upcoming bookings in order to select alternative attractions and/or times, based on availability.

If I buy the Multi-Pass, can I book a Lightning Lane for TRON or Guardians?
The most popular attractions, including TRON and Guardians, are not included with the Multi-Pass. However, you may purchase both Multi-Pass and Single Pass (based on availability), as well as or availing yourself of the standby/virtual options for any given attraction

What is a Lightning Lane Single Pass (LLSP)?
Lightning Lane Single Pass (LLSP) is essentially a re-brand of Individual Lightning Lanes, which allows a guest to pay a la carte for access to a single attraction at a time.

This is separate from Lightning Lane Multi-Pass. You can purchase one, both, or neither.

Does this have anything to do with Virtual Queues?
Virtual queues are a way of allocating standby capacity, and are unrelated to Lightning Lanes.

You may access the Lightning Lane via LLMP or LLSP (depending on which is offered for the the attraction).

You may access the Standby Lane via Walkup or Virtual Queue (depending on which is offered for the attraction).

This is very helpful. Thanks!

 

[Cabius]

I scanned through and didn’t see this answered and not sure anyone knows yet-I understand I can pre book three rides in the same park. After I use the first one, I can book one more ride in any park. Once I book another ride in another park (4th pass), can I go back and book the next ride (5th pass) in original park? Thinking of a type of stacking method with this!
Ie-prebook three in MK
Day of-use first in MK
Book 4th ride for later in day at HS
Use 2nd pass in MK
Book 5th ride for sooner time in MK
Use third pass in MK
Book 6th ride for MK but then I will have my HS later in day

Yes, you should be able to do this.

But who knows what day-of availability will look like?!?

 

[tom1944]

Any opinion on what parks/rides should be priority when your booking window opens to select your 3 LLMP?

I am thinking even though HS is towards the end of my trip I should book there first.

We will have 2 days at MK and Epcot so I need to decide if we need to book both days at each or just book 1 day each and if necessary book the second day once we see how the first day goes.

Unless of course you can cancel the second day and not be charged.

 

[Minnie1222]

Any opinion on what parks/rides should be priority when your booking window opens to select your 3 LLMP?

For us, the hardest ones to get under Genie+ were Remy and Slinky. I think Tiana will be popular, too.

Unless of course you can cancel the second day.

That's never going to happen. At best, they may give you a credit with a legitimate excuse.

 

[Disturbia]

If you book the earliest park (say AK at 8 am) and book overlapping times to get a better pick at your second park that might put you ahead of the crowd.

Given how much Genie+ was used and sparse availability at 11 am I don’t know if it’s worth it to try to get a good 5/6th pass at HS/Epcot (less rides).

We’re paying extra for park hopper and probably the park hopper multi pass (if they charge extra for it) and adding stress to our day not to mention travel times between parks (we will take mid day resort breaks so not too bad for us).

We never park hopped since Genie+ was introduced but did help a friend navigate their day and it was stressful and involved a lot of refreshing

 

[123SA]

Any opinion on what parks/rides should be priority when your booking window opens to select your 3 LLMP?

I am thinking even though HS is towards the end of my trip I should book there first.

We will have 2 days at MK and Epcot so I need to decide if we need to book both days at each or just book 1 day each and if necessary book the second day once we see how the first day goes.

Unless of course you can cancel the second day and not be charged.

I plan on having at least 2 people in my party working on this, hopefully 3 of us. I have 9 days to book, but I haven't yet decided on what parks each day, do I need it each day, what ILL to book. And of course any plans I make may be changed once I see the price. My booking date is Aug 4th, so I won't have a lot of data. The not knowing the price is seriously stressful. I know we don't know the price now with genie+, but there is enough data to make a good estimate.

Assuming no major price changes, big assumption, but I have nothing else to go on right now, my priority is:

Day 9 slinky in AM (so I can hop to another park TBD)
Day 8 Tiana prefer AM
Day 7 slinky anytime
Day 2 RNRC anytime
Day 3 Space Mountain


Something to keep in mind....MK party days will have less LLMP/LLSP available.

 

[123SA]

Something that occurred to me as I was trying to work out my plans, unless there is a significant price change, I am likely to book more LLSP than I would have under Genie+

Last year, I budgeted for multiple Tron/GOG/Rise/FOP ILL, but we were able to get VQ for Tron and GOG multiple times and we lucked out twice with reasonable lines (40 minutes) for Rise, and rope dropped FOP, so I didn't buy as many ILL as budgeted. For this trip, I guess I'll book them in advance, because if I don't I run the risk of not getting on Tron or GOG at all.

 

[tom1944]

For us, the hardest ones to get under Genie+ were Remy and Slinky. I think Tiana will be popular, too.


That's never going to happen. At best, they may give you a credit with a legitimate excuse.

That is understandable.

That might mean book one and see if you need the second.

 

[Disturbia]

Something that occurred to me as I was trying to work out my plans, unless there is a significant price change, I am likely to book more LLSP than I would have under Genie+

Last year, I budgeted for multiple Tron/GOG/Rise/FOP ILL, but we were able to get VQ for Tron and GOG multiple times and we lucked out twice with reasonable lines (40 minutes) for Rise, and rope dropped FOP, so I didn't buy as many ILL as budgeted. For this trip, I guess I'll book them in advance, because if I don't I run the risk of not getting on Tron or GOG at all.

We rode Tron three times on our MMSHP day (ILL, 7 am VQ and 6pm VQ). The only negative was having to keep going back and bracing the crowds when the VQs were called and walking up that ramp again and again with a loaded double stroller (nothing to do for the 4 year old in the meantime - play or arcade type interactive area would have been nice).

GOTG is a one a day for us (after eating I can’t ride it but our kids seem to be ok riding with RS back to back).

 

[DnA2010]

WDW newbie here- we are considering 1 day at Animal Kingdom pre-cruise in Sept- the day we would visit the park would be a friday...we are from the west coast and flying all day the day before. Party includes myself, DH, DD20 and DD8. We are staying DVC at AKL.
Would it still be advised to purchase Genie/Lightning/Pastpass, whatever it is, or would we be able to do most things at rope drop?

Many thanks!

 

[Disturbia]

Any opinion on what parks/rides should be priority when your booking window opens to select your 3 LLMP?

I am thinking even though HS is towards the end of my trip I should book there first.

We will have 2 days at MK and Epcot so I need to decide if we need to book both days at each or just book 1 day each and if necessary book the second day once we see how the first day goes.

Unless of course you can cancel the second day and not be charged.

I would think HS first (less rides more demand), then MK (Tiana/Tron) and then Epcot. 8 am at AK might be in high demand so maybe that one next? It all depends on pricing, availability and length of trip.

 

[tom1944]

I plan on having at least 2 people in my party working on this, hopefully 3 of us. I have 9 days to book, but I haven't yet decided on what parks each day, do I need it each day, what ILL to book. And of course any plans I make may be changed once I see the price. My booking date is Aug 4th, so I won't have a lot of data. The not knowing the price is seriously stressful. I know we don't know the price now with genie+, but there is enough data to make a good estimate.

Assuming no major price changes, big assumption, but I have nothing else to go on right now, my priority is:

Day 9 slinky in AM (so I can hop to another park TBD)
Day 8 Tiana prefer AM
Day 7 slinky anytime
Day 2 RNRC anytime
Day 3 Space Mountain


Something to keep in mind....MK party days will have less LLMP/LLSP available.

We get to select August 4th also.

We will be at MK on the day the park has a party and closes at 6 for us. I thought about changing but am keeping our plans right now.

 

[Disturbia]

WDW newbie here- we are considering 1 day at Animal Kingdom pre-cruise in Sept- the day we would visit the park would be a friday...we are from the west coast and flying all day the day before. Party includes myself, DH, DD20 and DD8. We are staying DVC at AKL.
Would it still be advised to purchase Genie/Lightning/Pastpass, whatever it is, or would we be able to do most things at rope drop?

Many thanks!

Friday in sept might be ok with just an FOP LLSP (lightening lane single pass) unless it’s Labor Day weekend. Everest has a single rider queue. Is your party ok waiting in the shaded line for the Safari and Navi ride? Our teen and 7 year old are ok and can find games or things to do while waiting. If so, you could probably just ride them during early entry (the bus line at AKL does back up so you do need to be at the stop early).

 

[miksicnarf]

I would think HS first (less rides more demand), then MK (if Tiana is still a LLSP) and then Epcot. 8 am at AK might be in high demand so maybe that one next? It all depends on pricing, availability and length of trip.

Tiana is listed as a Tier 1 MultiPass...I've seen no mention of it being a LLSP.

 

[123SA]

We get to select August 4th also.

We will be at MK on the day the park has a party and closes at 6 for us. I thought about changing but am keeping our plans right now.

Those are my plans too, except we are going to the parties as well. Early entry through the end of party, Tuesday and Friday. I have sit down meals booked at 430-ish both days for our "rest". I find travelling back and forth between resort & parks to be more tiring than restful.

 

[Disturbia]

Tiana is listed as a Tier 1 MultiPass...I've seen no mention of it being a LLSP.

I would check the day before your booking window to reconfirm. So far yes the vloggers do have it listed under the multi pass. I edited my post for clarity.

 

[miksicnarf]

I would check the day before your booking window to reconfirm. So far yes the vloggers do have it listed under the multi pass. I edited my post for clarity.

Not just vloggers, Disney lists it as LLMP https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/l...D0QAvD_BwE#drawer-card-drawerMagicKingdomPark

 

[boxer]

So if I'm reading the Q+A correctly, the initial (3) reservations must be at the same park--therefore, you are basically tied to getting the Tier 1 rides at your morning/afternoon park, rather than your evening one. We are the types that go to a park in the morning for a couple hours---but come back after dinner, and use the Genie+ rides I have been stacking all day, until park close. I'm not sure we can do this efficiently with the new plan? I guess I could book 3 rides in the early AM--to allow me to book the evening ones? Problem is, the Tier 1 rides will most certainly be gone by the time I can book the evening reservations.