...the second one is a CM pin that was sold with a similar-looking watch at company D back when the magic was first launching. it was HOT about a year or so ago, and most people selling it were selling it with the watch (how i got mine....fortunately, i collect watches as well as pins!). the two originally sold for somewhere around $65 at company D...were selling last year on that e site for two to three times that. personally, i haven't seen any lately. it is a cool pin, though!