OT: LOST fans?

[LMO429]

I thought that that might possibly be the Ajira plane too.

Rose and Bernard were in the church-I thought. I am going to rewatch it to make sure.

I didn't take the plane wreckage to be the Ajira plane because when kate sees Jack in the flash sideways she says something to the effect that she missed him for a very long time, I interpreted that to mean she did get off the island on the plane and lived a very long life without Jack.

 

[bookworm0312]

This is random, but, did the scene where Lapidus (sp?) and the others were trying to take off in the plane remind anyone else of a book/movie?

If you watched the two hour recap before the final episode, they talked about how the writers added little "easter eggs" to the episodes that people could research, i.e. names of characters, books, etc. In one episode one of the characters was shown holding a Stephen King book (I think it was Juliet), but, you couldn't see the title.

The scene with the plane taking off sure did make me think about The Langoliers by Stephen King... made me wonder if that was the book she was holding?

 

[Applemomma]

A friend of mine likend it to "The Five People You Meet In Heaven"

It is interesting that Walt and his dad weren't in the church but I wonder if that had to do with the actors themselves or the story line? Also Mr. Ecko wasn't there but was he a plane crash survivor or an "Other"?

The only sideways life I couldn't reconcile was Claire's.....Was that Charlie's afterlife or hers?

I had a huge AHA! when Claire said to Desmond "Christian Shepherd, seriously?"!

I wasn't really disappointed in the ending at all but it's definitly one I'm going to want to watch again! Actually I want to watch the whole series again....I'm sure there's so much more we didn't pick up on!

 

[WebmasterJohn]

The scene with the plane taking off sure did make me think about The Langoliers by Stephen King... made me wonder if that was the book she was holding?

I thought the same thing.

 

[GraceLuvsWDW]

The Langoliers was one of the spookiest/scariest books I've EVER read!

 

[sc9500]

I appreciated the unmistakable love for Star Wars the producers/writers had during the length of the show, even in the last episode as Yoda was mentioned. My bigger questions surround Desmond and Mrs Whitmore -- what were they really, angels, guides? how did she know what Desmond was doing what was her fear, that Faraday would die? etc...

 

[GraceLuvsWDW]

It is interesting that Walt and his dad weren't in the church but I wonder if that had to do with the actors themselves or the story line? Also Mr. Ecko wasn't there but was he a plane crash survivor or an "Other"?

The only sideways life I couldn't reconcile was Claire's.....Was that Charlie's afterlife or hers?

Christian said they made the Alt so that they could "all remember" and move on. I guess some of the characters weren't there because they weren't bonded to the others as the main group of characters were and possibly because the island experience wasn't the most significant experience in their lives.

There's still soem mirroring in the white light in the church and in the cave. I'm glad they left the island a mystery.

Did everyone else notice how cool the church in the end was? Every significant religion/belief was included. I was shocked at first to see a Buddha on the bookcase in a Catholic church-but that stained glass was very, very cool.

 

[tink576]

I think that Walt and Michaels not being in this episode had more to do with Walt as an actor then the writers. Michael was in the Jimmy Kimmel episode last night for his involvement, which makes me think he and the writers wanted him to be in the end but you couldn't really bring back Michael at that point without bringing in Walt. So I think the actor just didn't come back.

 

[greenmyvalley]

I thought the ending was perfect. I loved LOST so much and I'll miss it. Thanks for an amazing run.

 

[corky441]

Christian said they made the Alt so that they could "all remember" and move on. I guess some of the characters weren't there because they weren't bonded to the others as the main group of characters were and possibly because the island experience wasn't the most significant experience in their lives.

There's still soem mirroring in the white light in the church and in the cave. I'm glad they left the island a mystery.

Did everyone else notice how cool the church in the end was? Every significant religion/belief was included. I was shocked at first to see a Buddha on the bookcase in a Catholic church-but that stained glass was very, very cool.

I also noticed that they all sat down in the pews and only Christian left to 'move on'
I think they're waiting for others to arrive

 

[GraceLuvsWDW]

In was just reseacrhing all of the symbols that were represented on the stained glass in the church and stumbled across this (the wheel was in the bottom left corner of the glass). I think this mirrors the wheel on the island too and is interesting:

The wheel (Skt. chakra; Tib. 'khor lo) is one of the most important Buddhist symbols, as it represents the teachings of the Buddha. The Buddha was the one who "turned the wheel of the dharma" and thus the wheel symbol is the Dharmachakra, or "wheel of law." The Tibetan term for this symbol, chos kyi'khor lo, means "the wheel of transformation."

The wheel also represents the endless cycle of samsara, or rebirth, which can only be escaped by means of the Buddha's teachings. And some Buddhists regard the the wheel's three basic parts as symbols of the "three trainings" in Buddhist practice: The hub symbolizes moral discipline, which stabilizes the mind. The spokes (usually there are eight) represent wisdom which is applied to defeat ignorance. The rim represents training in concentration, which holds everything else together.

Some Tibetan wrathful deities are depicted brandishing a wheel as a weapon to conquer evil and ignorance. This theme may have been adapted from Hindu iconography, in which a disc is an attribute of the god Vishnu and a symbol of the absolute weapon that conquers desires and passions.

 

[Geef]

The original lost group was in the church because they ment so much to each other... Des, Penny, Juliet etc were there because they ment somthing special in the original groups lives.

I think that is why Ben was being invited...
I think he turned down the invite because his greatest time was before with his daughter Alexis, or after when he was #2 (the new Richard) with Hurley.

I liked the ending, and all 6 seasons. A standing ovation to the writers, directors, editors, musicians, camera/film crew, and most of all the actors.

 

[Matt@WDWR]

The plane wreckage at the end was the original Oceanic 815 plane. They were just trying to show you that the plane really crashed. The island was real. The alternaverse was "purgatory".

Brilliant ending.

 

[sydneysmom]

In was just reseacrhing all of the symbols that were represented on the stained glass in the church and stumbled across this (the wheel was in the bottom left corner of the glass). I think this mirrors the wheel on the island too and is interesting:

The wheel (Skt. chakra; Tib. 'khor lo) is one of the most important Buddhist symbols, as it represents the teachings of the Buddha. The Buddha was the one who "turned the wheel of the dharma" and thus the wheel symbol is the Dharmachakra, or "wheel of law." The Tibetan term for this symbol, chos kyi'khor lo, means "the wheel of transformation."

The wheel also represents the endless cycle of samsara, or rebirth, which can only be escaped by means of the Buddha's teachings. And some Buddhists regard the the wheel's three basic parts as symbols of the "three trainings" in Buddhist practice: The hub symbolizes moral discipline, which stabilizes the mind. The spokes (usually there are eight) represent wisdom which is applied to defeat ignorance. The rim represents training in concentration, which holds everything else together.

Some Tibetan wrathful deities are depicted brandishing a wheel as a weapon to conquer evil and ignorance. This theme may have been adapted from Hindu iconography, in which a disc is an attribute of the god Vishnu and a symbol of the absolute weapon that conquers desires and passions.

That is VERY cool..... don't you find it interesting that the wheel symbol is the Dharmachakra, or "wheel of law."

 

[Geef]

I appreciated the unmistakable love for Star Wars the producers/writers had during the length of the show, even in the last episode as Yoda was mentioned. My bigger questions surround Desmond and Mrs Whitmore -- what were they really, angels, guides? how did she know what Desmond was doing what was her fear, that Faraday would die? etc...

I think Mrs. Whitmore/Faraday was aware of where she was, but not ready to move on. She was enjoying her time watching her son enjoy "life". She was afraid Desmond would take him away.

 

[GraceLuvsWDW]

I think Mrs. Whitmore/Faraday was aware of where she was, but not ready to move on. She was enjoying her time watching her son enjoy "life". She was afraid Desmond would take him away.

Very astute observation!


I think there are so many layers of meaning and allegories, physical and metaphysical, good and evil, symbols like the cork and the light, things that people will probably be speculating/arguing over for a while. What a brilliant way to answer qustions while posing yet more. Every person has to ask themselves "what do I believe it meant?" much like religion and all of the important things in life.

 

[Gelfling_Jen]

Ah! Thanks, I didn't catch that about the flash sideways being their afterlife!

I thought Sawyer found Juliet?

Anyway, I loved it, I hated it, it's over!

Yes Sawyer found Juliet in the afterlife/purgatory, I was speaking of the lives of the survivors after Jack saved the island and died. We are led to assume that Sawyer, Kate, Claire, etc; got off the island and lived their lives and eventually died and met back up with everyone in the afterlife/purgatory. So while they were alive, even though Sawyer and Kate left on the plane together, I don't think they had a relationship afterwards because Kate professed her love to Jack before he died and Sawyer would forever love Juliet more.

 

[Gelfling_Jen]

Jack had to recork the island because Desmond was not strong enough after uncorking it the first time. I was confused by the fact that uncorking it took away their powers and made them all mortal.

Ah that would make sense, he was pretty weak. If you look at the light as being an energy or life force then it would make sense that they would become mortal when it is uncorked. Those that are designated to watch over the island and those "touched" by people designated to watch over the island are all immortal. The power of the light is maintaining this immortality and may also be the lifeforce for everyone on earth. It was mentioned a few times that if the light goes out there it goes out everywhere (I think this was first said by Mother). When the light was first uncorked people didn't die instantly, but maybe they would if the island went down, or they would live their lives but no new births would happen. Strange though that women couldn't give birth in the place that holds the worlds lifeforce!

 

[Mndisneygirl]

I might be forgetting something, but I was confused as to how/when Jack and Julia were parents to David. That really surprised me. Can anyone help explain that?

 

[corky441]

I might be forgetting something, but I was confused as to how/when Jack and Julia were parents to David. That really surprised me. Can anyone help explain that?

That was just one of many oddities in the sideways flashes.

There was never any storyline regarding it.

The sideways "world" was just their halfway stop between death & moving on