Orlando in the news again...

[Tigger7570]

Sorry - I meant to address my post to LuvOrlando

 

[ducklite]

This may be true but I don't have to spend $5,000 to see crime in my own town. Can't you see why I might want to avoid it?

And as I've told you several times now--and yes, I'm a LOCAL, it is nothing you need to worry about.

The population of the greater Orlando is over 1 million. With that many people there will be an element of crime, some of it will be violent. It is not happening in Disney World, and with a rare exception now and then, violent crime isn't happening in the WDW area.

I work one town over from where many of these crimes happen, and I do not worry. As Mak pointed out, the violent crime is almost always by a known assailant, and almost always involves drugs. Stay out of bad areas, don't go wondering down South OBT at night "looking for companionship", do'nt hang out on the intersection of Silverstar and North Hiawasee "waiting for somebody to bring you an empanada" (my coworker brings them for me as he doesn't want me in that area and it's the only place in town to get really good authentic ones), don't decide that a walk down Cloyer Way on a moonlit evening is a good idea. Use common sense.

We have a lot less crime here than areas with similar populations, and if you even begin to add in the numbers of tourists that pass through the area every year, I can guarantee that we are one of the safest larger metropolitan areas in the US. I would be willing to guess that there is less crime committed against tourists here in this area than in Vegas.

Like I said, WDW takes security very seriously. Can they keep every single criminal out? No, it's not possible. Has there been a serious violent crime on WDW property against a tourist? One in the DTD parking lot, and I'm not even sure if she was a tourist or a local.

Anne

 

[Tinker74]

I don't understand all this rudeness to the opening poster.

Luvorlando..was trying to have a civil conversation...why the hostility?

I wish I hadn't read this thread now...I just logged oon to be cheered up ...And I see more rudeness

 

[ducklite]

I don't understand all this rudeness to the opening poster.

Luvorlando..was trying to have a civil conversation...why the hostility?

I wish I hadn't read this thread now...I just logged oon to be cheered up ...And I see more rudeness

This poster has a history of posting links to news stories about crime in Orlando and making implications that WDW might not be taking security seriously enough and that the entire area is a steaming mass of violence. This is not the first time they have posted like this, nor is the first time they've been reassured that they will be safe on WDW property.

Some of us "locals" are beginning to become quite offended by the OP's insinuations.

Anne

 

[lillygator]

Anne, right on!

 

[ducklite]

What exactly are you clapping for?

If me & all the other so called 'neurotic tourists' really do stay home what do you think would happen to WDW? To your 'neurotic tourist' based economy? Clueless much?

Because I can't think of the last time someone was on these boards implying over and over that the entire greater Orlando area was a cesspool of violent crime. It's not, and the implications are getting old.

We've tried to nicely allay your fears and you keep coming back at us as if we are lying to you. Frankly it's becoming insulting.

Like I said, you've got violent crime in your town--does that mean you don't go to the super market? Of course not. It means you do'nt go to the super market in "that" area of town, any more than "those" people come across town to your market to shop.

And for the record, 99.99999% of the tourists aren't nuerotic about their personal safety after reading two stories in the news about crimes that happened no where near WDW. For teh very few, well, seriously, if you'd feel safer elsewhere, maybe that would be a better choice for you.

Anne

 

[tarheelmjfan]

I don't understand all this rudeness to the opening poster.

Most people love where they live, or they wouldn't live there. Noone wants to hear how bad or dangerous it is. I totally understand their reaction, because the same thing happens to me all the time. I grew up in small town NC, & now live in Tampa. If one bad thing happens here all year, everyone I know from my hometown is calling to tell us to sell our house & move. It's a terrible, unsafe place to live. There's no more crime in my neighborhood than in theirs, & not nearly as much crime at our local malls as occurs in their closest mall. However, they refuse to see that. You wouldn't believe some of the things they come up with about this area. You'd think they were dodging bullets trying to get into my front door. They even think everyone in this state is out to get them, because they're from the "other" state. Sorry to burst their bubble, but that prejudice ends with them.

It's basically about people being closed minded & refusing to believe that the place they live isn't the only safe place in the world. Some of the things I hear are ludicrous. You need to live in an area, before you really know how it is. If you went by what you see on TV or read, you'd never go anywhere. That is, except to your own town, which is undoubtedly the safest place on the planet. IME, it's best to not be an alarmist & trust the word of those who live there.

There's crime everywhere, like it or not. The biggest difference I've seen is that in big cities the crime is pretty much isolated to a few bad areas. Stay away from those areas & you'll be perfectly safe. In small towns, the crime is usually committed by someone you know & can occur anywhere. Either way, crime is crime.

 

[ticktock]

yeah? tell that to the families of the 2 young girls that have been killed in 2 separate incidences in Jacksonville this year in their own homes by stray bullets that came from the street. I know Jacksonville is not Orlando but that statement above is a crock of crap
In Jacksonville's main paper this Sunday there was an article about one of those little girls. I believe, but am not 100% sure that the article said the little girl was living in a house were her uncle a drug dealer lived. It did say the shooting was related to drug gangs. It also said that her mother was let out of jail for the funeral. There was a picture of the mother in a prison jumpsuit and handcuffs standing in front of the little girls coffin. So yeah, I think that little girl was put in a bad position by the people who were supposed to be protecting her. She sure as !$%& wasn't at Disney World! And the sad thing is, even though we are only two hours away she probably had never been to Disney. Not all, but most of these terrible crimes against innocent victims are a direct result of the behaviours of the people who are supposed to love and protect them.

 

[makinorlando]

yeah? tell that to the families of the 2 young girls that have been killed in 2 separate incidences in Jacksonville this year in their own homes by stray bullets that came from the street. I know Jacksonville is not Orlando but that statement above is a crock of crap.

edited to clarify that my quoted statement above is not one made by "malinorlando" but the quote from the news story that the police chief said that makinorlando posted.

and what was quoted said that your chances were "pretty slim" - not that it would never happen.

I agree it is totally sad that children of people that are involved in illegal activities are many times the innocent victims of crimes against those that should be protecting them.

I am far from making light of the fact that crime is on an increase, but around the nation that is a fact. I truly believe that you are no less safe at WDW than you might be anywhere around the nation.

The talk radio station I listen to when I am waiting for DD in car line at school had one of the Lt of the Orlando police on the show today she is a frequent guest, talking about unsolved crimes, sharing the tip line, etc. so this appearance was not totally in reaction to the recent news- her comments were the same, that the MAJORITY, not all of the violent crimes/murders were related to drugs or other illegal activities, and few were random acts of violence.

 

[LuvOrlando]

This poster has a history of posting links to news stories about crime in Orlando and making implications that WDW might not be taking security seriously enough and that the entire area is a steaming mass of violence. This is not the first time they have posted like this, nor is the first time they've been reassured that they will be safe on WDW property.

Some of us "locals" are beginning to become quite offended by the OP's insinuations.

Anne

Oh, I see, the fact that I have a history of posting actual facts I've come across is offensive to you. Interesting, very interesting.

BTW this is the 2nd time I've read and posted something about this situation and 2 isn't exactly a 'HISTORY', in fact I don't even think it would qualify as a pattern according to Websters. Oh wait, books contain facts..my mistake.

BTW I'M FROM NY. I went clubbing in the city, I worked in the city, I've fed the homeless. My home town is considered a cesspool by most people in this country.

I NEVER said WDW or Orlando was anything remotely close to dangerous. I posted a fact IN THE NEWSPAPER NOT SOMETHING I MADE UP to see if ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU had any opinions that might be of value to me. You see where I come from we generally do not take one or 2 peoples word for ANYTHING.

I stiill LUVORLANDO but it seems I could live without a few of its residents

 

[G8RFAN]

I can see it now...... CSI - Disney or Law and Order - DSRU (Disney Special Response Unit)

I have traveled to many tourist destinations throughout the US and I can not think of any that gives me a comfort level as WDW does and that includes National Parks and upscale destinations such as Vail, Santa Fe, and Martha's Vineyard. It's as close to Fantasy Island as you are going to get.

 

[LuvOrlando]

" Orlando in the news again...
http://www.local6.com/news/9639831/detail.html

Ok, I posted the last time I saw Orlando in the news and am posting again to get a feel from the locals if this is something I should be concerned with. Last time many folks who live in Orlando said the crime was in a pretty much isolated area but I won't pretend the crime situation reported here isn't a worry to me.

Does anyone know if WDW has stepped up its security in response to stories like this one?"

This is my original post...how exactly is this offensive

BTW Duckie, I looked and saw that you have been posting here since 6am, all day and do this every day. That speaks volumes to me, my feelings aren't so hurt anymore. See ya, I'm done here.

 

[palmtreegirl]

What exactly are you clapping for?

If me & all the other so called 'neurotic tourists' really do stay home what do you think would happen to WDW? To your 'neurotic tourist' based economy? Clueless much?

I'm clapping because I think you posted this looking for a debate and Anne just told it like it is.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I'm laughing because I think some of you like to be bullies and I called you out on it.


What exactly is there to debate? 2 opposing points of view have to exist to have a debate. You & co have manufactured an imaginary point of view for me. I don't get any of you

 

[lillygator]

I stiill LUVORLANDO but it seems I could live without a few of its residents

as we could live without a few of its tourists!!!

 

[lillygator]

I'm clapping because I think you posted this looking for a debate and Anne just told it like it is.

Another one clapping, cheering AND APPLAUDING!!!

 

[GalDisney]

You will be fine at WDW. JUst use normal precautions. I would stay away from the International Drive Hotels because there has been a good bit of crimes targeting tourists there, There was also a robbery of an employee i believe at The Portofino bay Hotel (universal). All of these crimes seem to have occured late at night, early morning while it is dark. Stay at WDW, and you will be fine

 

[GalDisney]

<<If you're not selling drugs, if you don't house people selling drugs, if you don't have the proceeds of drugs in your home, then your chances of being involved in a homicide are pretty slim," he said.>>
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Yes, with the exception of the innocent man who was shot and killed entering his apt during a robbery attempt and the woman who was coming home from work, had just gotten off the bus and was walking to her apt. when she was robbed, shot and killed and what about the Missing young lady who disappered at the begiining of they yr? All of these incidents occured in MetroWest if i remebber correctly. O-Town is worse than Los Angeles.

 

[Tinker74]

You know as a complete outsider who actually lives in the Uk..and just stumbled on this thread..Iam disgusted with the attitudes towards a poster here.
It does come across like playground bullying...Whats all this Yeah right on buisness ...like a nasty bullies sidekick.
The opening poster does not have a history of this...as she said she has posted twice on the issue.
I think this thread should be closed and some posters should think about how they treat others.
Ihaven't seen this for ages on the dis...iam sorry i came across it today.

 

[flightnurse]

Tinker 74:
I agree 100% with you! This is something I would never expect to be on this discussion board!!
After all isn`t this a discussion board;And isn`t this person entitled to write or ask a question without being slammed for doing so??..Even if this question or statement does not carry your opinion there is no reason for some of your statements!! I too, am sorry for reading this "bullying" on this board!!