Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread-Part 2

[sunshine girl]

I think it was in one of the email blasts.

What email blasts? I swear, I don't think I'm on the email list for some reason. Haven't received any runDisney emails since signing up.

Anyway, I found online where to order the bags. Thanks for posting about this! I'm not going to order one but I am happy that the DIS boards are keeping me in the loop!

Did my 23-miler this weekend without incident and at a fairly even, casual pace. I listened to a whole bunch of new NPR's "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" episodes, which kept me entertained! Glad it's done... One step closer to January 13!

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[cewait]

That was horrible! I was supposed to run 16 and only did 15. And I walked a lot of it. I was miserable. I don't understand how 15 this week could be so awful when last week's 14 felt so good. Maybe the heat? It was bright and sunny and 80 degrees in Tampa today. Ugh. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do this.

Hang in there... missing a mile can be a learning experience. If this year's marathon is a warm one, you will be much better prepared than if you bailed out or just said no-go

 

[cewait]

Need some advice from advice from seasoned marathoners 

Small background: I have completed 9 half marathons since I started to really get into running, 4 since September including the DL half. I am following the Galloway plan on Run Disneys site for the Goofy training. This will be my first marathon and Goofy  not ideal I know.

I have been doing all of my training pretty faithfully. I have done all of my long runs as scheduled until 3 weeks ago when I was to do the 8/20 (8 Sat & 20 Sun). I did the 8 ok but used older shoes figuring they had life in them so I could use the good shoes for the 20. Well my feet hurt bad after the 8 so lesson learned. Went to do the 20 and I scrapped it at mile 15. I was in pain! My feet hurt and my left hip muscle hurt. I wanted to stop at 10 but went on to 15. Figured I would be ok.

Continued to follow the plan except last weekend I didnt do the 7, I did a half on Thanksgiving instead. This week was to be 10/23 but I decided to do 10/20. Did the 10 yesterday fine. 20 today is not happening. I am sick. I have terrible chills, a horrible sore throat and my head feels funny. I know my body and I wont be able to go out and do this.

Now Im worried. The plan calls for 6 this next weekend, then 7 the following then the last big run of 12/26. Here is my plan. Instead of going down to 6 next weekend, try to do the 10/20 again, taper down to 7 the following then ramp it up and do 12/23 the weekend before Xmas and taper down for 2 weeks before marathon weekend. Will this work? Im just nervous I wont have sufficient training in and I dont want to be swept. Sorry for the long post.

First and foremost you have enough miles and enough back to backs to get through Goofy. Do not worry about the scrapped runs to day. Just follow the plan and consider these modifications....

Do not feel like you have to run the remaining back to backs on the schedule. You already have a feel for the dead leg run so why push injury or illness? Focus on getting the remaining long run in.

If this is you first full, you do not need the full Galloway 26 to be successful. The main reason for the 26 in training is to get a positive thought in your noggin of "I can do this". Trust me, if you convert the final long run to 20 or 21 you are more than good for the race.

Hang in there. Take it easy this week as it sounds like you may have an illness creeping up. Use energy this week to fight the cold/flu, etc. Note it is not uncommon to get ill between now the the week following the race as you are using lots of energy in training.

Hope this helps

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

cobbler, I follow the John Bingham Marathoning for Mortals plan. The plan takes one up to 20 miles. I followed this plan for my first marathon/Goofy event and continue to follow this plan. It got me over the finish line. In addition, that first training time I did the back-to-back long runs as you have been. I only did that one year. I am sure you will make it over the finish line following the advice Coach Charles offered.

Take care of yourself. Feel better.

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

Bought my plane tickets for january. This goofy challenge thing just got a lot more real.

Fun! For sure.

 

[belle2211]

So I guess its a good thing I never got a reply back from Disney about switching from the half to the full. I hurt my knee back when I did the 16 on the Monday before Thanksgiving. It was extreemely painful that day and the next then slowly got a little better (I can walk with no pain, but hurts to bend down and have twinges every now and then). So I tried 4 miles last Sunday, got to 3.75 and it started bothering me a lot again. So I took the week off and tried again today. I could only get to 1.5 before I had to stop and walk home. I'm so frustrated! I've been using the stick to roll every part of the leg I can think of. I've been researching sympton of knee injuries and nothing seems to be mine. I have a 5k in 2 weeks and while I know I can push through the pain, I don't know if it's smart. I guess its time to go to the doctor. What kind? Sports medicine? Any one know of any good doctors to go to down here in the Orlando area?

 

[MightyDuck001]

It was supposed to be my cut back, easy week in terms of long runs but by mile 3 something really nasty happened to my left calf. I finished the 12 and my last mile was, oddly enough, my strongest of the week, but now I think my calf is royally messed up.
So survey questions:
1. When do you decide to cut a run short and take a week completely off from running? I'm emotionally conflicted about taking the whole week off just to be safe (oh, did I mention my developing cold?) this close to January, but I never took off after Wine and Dine and I do have scheduled for this week a fun, Garmin free, holiday 8k.

2. For anyone who's done this before, how much can I move around the long runs? I'm doing Higdon, so I did 12 this week, 12/7 is 18, 12/14 is 14, 12/21 is 20 then 12 and 8. I really want to bump the 20 miler to the 14th and the 14 miler to the 21st--it's just easier to get the miles in before going home (where I can't run 1/2 a mile without a god forsaken hill) for the holiday but does that mess with the taper? Am I begging for an injury?

My co-workers have already started joking about getting me my own rascal scooter as a reward for finishing my first marathon.

 

[cewait]

It was supposed to be my cut back, easy week in terms of long runs but by mile 3 something really nasty happened to my left calf. I finished the 12 and my last mile was, oddly enough, my strongest of the week, but now I think my calf is royally messed up.
So survey questions:
1. When do you decide to cut a run short and take a week completely off from running? I'm emotionally conflicted about taking the whole week off just to be safe (oh, did I mention my developing cold?) this close to January, but I never took off after Wine and Dine and I do have scheduled for this week a fun, Garmin free, holiday 8k.

2. For anyone who's done this before, how much can I move around the long runs? I'm doing Higdon, so I did 12 this week, 12/7 is 18, 12/14 is 14, 12/21 is 20 then 12 and 8. I really want to bump the 20 miler to the 14th and the 14 miler to the 21st--it's just easier to get the miles in before going home (where I can't run 1/2 a mile without a god forsaken hill) for the holiday but does that mess with the taper? Am I begging for an injury?

My co-workers have already started joking about getting me my own rascal scooter as a reward for finishing my first marathon.

1) Pain and where the pain is located. Generally if the pain is a joint or where a large tendon could be involved (like a low calf) I will take time if needed.

It's better to come to the race a little undertrained and well then well trained and injured.

Take the midweek off for the cold and your legs will thank you.

2)
I see no issue with sliding your schedule as described with a trade of scrapping the 18 miler. The issue is that if you are on the cusp of injury, running an 18 followed by a 20 can be just enough to push you over the line. So I would cut the 18 making the progression 14, 20, (ADD) 14-16, 12, 8


Hope this helps

 

[cewait]

So I guess its a good thing I never got a reply back from Disney about switching from the half to the full. I hurt my knee back when I did the 16 on the Monday before Thanksgiving. It was extreemely painful that day and the next then slowly got a little better (I can walk with no pain, but hurts to bend down and have twinges every now and then). So I tried 4 miles last Sunday, got to 3.75 and it started bothering me a lot again. So I took the week off and tried again today. I could only get to 1.5 before I had to stop and walk home. I'm so frustrated! I've been using the stick to roll every part of the leg I can think of. I've been researching sympton of knee injuries and nothing seems to be mine. I have a 5k in 2 weeks and while I know I can push through the pain, I don't know if it's smart. I guess its time to go to the doctor. What kind? Sports medicine? Any one know of any good doctors to go to down here in the Orlando area?

Sounds like you need to find one. I would look for an orthopedic doc who specialized in sports...one who takes care of a few high schools or CFU. They are more likely to treat you as an athlete rather than a hobbled weekend warrior. Not giving medical advice, I would consider a cortisone shot (assuming no major issue). This will kill the inflammation and allow you to complete the race. The timing now would also possibly allow a follow up injection for the Princess if needed. Hopefully, this with a pittle PT and you will not remember the issue.

In the interim, head to the sports store and grab a neoprene knee brace. They have some with velcro anchored straps above and below the knee to keep the brace in place. These are not the monster braces you see for NFL linemen, rather a sleeve with possibly a small amount of bracing. The brace will provide compression through the day and help the knee feel better.

I guess with any luck, I will be shopping for docs in the near future. Let me know who you find.

 

[MightyDuck001]

1) Pain and where the pain is located. Generally if the pain is a joint or where a large tendon could be involved (like a low calf) I will take time if needed.

It's better to come to the race a little undertrained and well then well trained and injured.

Take the midweek off for the cold and your legs will thank you.

2)
I see no issue with sliding your schedule as described with a trade of scrapping the 18 miler. The issue is that if you are on the cusp of injury, running an 18 followed by a 20 can be just enough to push you over the line. So I would cut the 18 making the progression 14, 20, (ADD) 14-16, 12, 8


Hope this helps

Thank you--that definitely helps. It's not the lower calf that's bothering me, it's the top part (or as I jokingly told someone the "fattest part"). It just felt really tight but when I woke up this morning it felt so much better....

 

[guava]

Any one know of any good doctors to go to down here in the Orlando area?

Last November my husband ran the Celebration Health Founder's 10K, I was nursing an ankle injury so I spent some time walking around the booths they had set up. I stopped in and talked to the docs at the Florida Hospital Sports Medicine and Rehabilitation booth. I thought they were extremely helpful and knowledgeable. I can't vouch for them in a patient/doctor setting, but I feel like I got more value from them during about a 10-15 minute free consultation then I have gotten from my personal ortho in numerous appointments. If they were closer, I definitely would have made an appointment with their group. They have a lot of offices throughout Orlando including one in Celebration. Hope your knee heals quickly!

 

[Dug720]

I finally had a really good, easy-feeling long run (ok, so it was a cutback week, but...) this weekend and am feeling more ready and confident about the marathon.

 

[cewait]

But, thought the title would get a little anxiety to surface.

Here is the deal. For the last three years the waivers have come out on a date in this week of the calendar. With any luck, the timing will not change with the fall back of the event date.

Guesses?

I am guessing Wednesday at 5 pm EST.

 

[liznboys]

Well I got my postponed 10/20 back to back done yesterday and today, and they went great! I am feeling good about Goofy now!

Coach~good luck with the job stuff!

I hope the bibs come out this week, can't wait to see them!

 

[rocio]

But, thought the title would get a little anxiety to surface.

Here is the deal. For the last three years the waivers have come out on a date in this week of the calendar. With any luck, the timing will not change with the fall back of the event date.

Guesses?

I am guessing Wednesday at 5 pm EST.

I'll play. My guess is Wednesday, Dec. 12.

I did my 10 mile run (following your advice Coach on the modified training schedule). Felt good until the last mile or so and had a little foot stiffness but otherwise my ankle/foot felt fine. Next up 14-16 miles.

 

[Danhockey04]

But, thought the title would get a little anxiety to surface.

Here is the deal. For the last three years the waivers have come out on a date in this week of the calendar. With any luck, the timing will not change with the fall back of the event date.

Guesses?

I am guessing Wednesday at 5 pm EST.

Last year, the site was created 12/6 at 8:22 am. The race code was w12wdw. This information is found on the index page of the trackshack, disneysports page: http://www.trackshack.com/disneysports/

So guess we may have another week till they come out is my opinion.

 

[Ariel484]

But, thought the title would get a little anxiety to surface.

Here is the deal. For the last three years the waivers have come out on a date in this week of the calendar. With any luck, the timing will not change with the fall back of the event date.

Guesses?

I am guessing Wednesday at 5 pm EST.

I'll also guess December 12...hopefully earlier.

Well I got my postponed 10/20 back to back done yesterday and today, and they went great! I am feeling good about Goofy now!

Coach~good luck with the job stuff!

I hope the bibs come out this week, can't wait to see them!

Way to go!! I've got the 10/20 this week...

 

[ironz]

Hang in there with the training, everyone! It is totally NORMAL to feel like crud in the last few big weeks....the race has been on your mind for MONTHS, adding mental stress (even if excitement, it is stress physiologically) to the physical stress, and it is ok to get a little tired of it all. But...we're almost there!


And a question for Charles...thoughts on trail running "equivalents"?? 2 of my last 3 long runs were trail races (using the term "race" very loosely), and of course, with technical, hilly, rocky, twisty turny trails, there is a definite decrease in pace. But, the time on my feet, moving forward with aerobic activity, is increased compared to on the road. So...I'm thinking my 4 hour 25K and my 3:45 half marathon (harder trail than the 25K) sort of "count" as about 19 and 16 miles respectively, give or take, if I tried to make it equal to the time I might have covered on the road. (oh, yeah...they were super slow...I don't want to risk an injury running down a narrow rocky trail at this point)

Of course, they are in the log book as the true distance covered.....but I think (hope?) a greater training effect was gained with the added time in motion.
Thoughts?

 

[Dug720]

But, thought the title would get a little anxiety to surface.

Here is the deal. For the last three years the waivers have come out on a date in this week of the calendar. With any luck, the timing will not change with the fall back of the event date.

Guesses?

I am guessing Wednesday at 5 pm EST.

Isn't it usually about a month out from the start of the weekend? So I'm thinking next week.

 

[liznboys]

... Way to go!! I've got the 10/20 this week...

Thank you! Good luck with yours, you will do great!