***Official*** Pandora: The World of Avatar Information Thread

[Spridell]

Yes I saw just this morning they updated the information which is a very good first step.

When I was there yesterday there must of been 3 or 4 CM talking to the person who couldnt fit telling them they have been getting complaints and they felt bad etc.....

If I was a betting man I bet Disney will tweak these restraints by the end of the year. Thats my guess anyway.

 

[FastPasser.]

I 100% believe there will be people coming to DW just to go on this ride.

Some on here already have and a few others will be coming to Pandora, but not necessarily just for FoP. At least I don't think so.

 

[yulilin3]

Some on here already have and a few others will be coming to Pandora, but not necessarily just for FoP. At least I don't think so.

yeah for Pandora I could see but not just for FoP

 

[Spridell]

Some on here already have and a few others will be coming to Pandora, but not necessarily just for FoP. At least I don't think so.

Yeah but we are such a small percentage of the people who actually go to DW.

 

[wilkeliza]

Some on here already have and a few others will be coming to Pandora, but not necessarily just for FoP. At least I don't think so.

yeah for Pandora I could see but not just for FoP

We made a trip just for Pandora but not just for Flight of Passage. We would have still felt like the land was worth it had we not gotten to ride.

 

[Spridell]

We made a trip just for Pandora but not just for Flight of Passage. We would have still felt like the land was worth it had we not gotten to ride.

Oh no doubt about that. It is def worth going to even if you cant ride FOP. The river ride is amazing. The most life like animatronic you will ever see. And the land itself you walk around saying how did they do all this.

 

[Elizakapeka]

Not being able to fit on FOP shouldn't ruin a persons vacation but being 4'9" at 39 years old I can completely relate. I have been "too short" for things before and it truly is devastating that you want to do something that most other adults can do but you cant do it because of something you can not control nor change. My 9 year old twin boys are in the 5th % for height. They have been turned away for carnival rides at our parish carnival some of their female classmates have been riding for the last 3 years now. Last year when they were turned away their disappointment brought me to tears. I have dealt with the same problems. I came here panicking that they wont be able to ride or even myself. If we get turned away it will be a huge disappointment emotionally but we will have to deal with it. I will not let it ruin my vacation or even my whole day for that matter but it may take me a bit to recover from the letdown. I truly feel for anyone who gets turned away for their size regardless of what aspect of size caused them to not be able to ride. Here's to hoping that something can be modified that allows for all of us of various sizes to ride FOP since we all have been looking forward to it for so long.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

There are 2 methods. The restraints can be seen so the 1st one is pushing yourself as far forward as possible with your feet in the traditional L like you were sitting on a chair very proper (back straight lets straight even if you have to tippy toe). If you can see your legs are not blocking the restraint chances are you are good. If that does not work then you can take the V method. That would be where your feet are behind your knees instead of under or in front of them. Again if you are taking that approach (which is not how the safety spiel says to sit so thus should be last resort) you have to make sure there is space between your calf and thigh so again visualize that you aren't blocking any of the restraint which can be seen on the sides of the bench seat.

Thanks for taking the time to detail this out! We'll be there in Aug, and I am copying this into my trip notes. My concern is the giant-feet-and-giant-calves potential issue... I will report back!

They updated both MDE and the site on this
MDE

Website

I've got to be honest: this statement is not helpful. It's like a disclaimer or fine print meant to protect a company, or give employees something to point to, to say "see -- we warned you".

Given the ODD types of fit issues this ride is having, they'd have to get more specific for this little disclaimer to actually be useful to guests ahead of time -- like when planning their FP.

 

[FastPasser.]

Yeah but we are such a small percentage of the people who actually go to DW.

That is true, but of the few on here that have made a special trip to WDW, they came to experience Pandora as whole and not just FoP specifically, which I believe will also be the case for the general public.

 

[linzbear]

Yes they do or they wouldn't have allowed the height require to be where it is. The back restraint can come pretty far forward to get a secure fit. The leg should be no issue either but is okay if it is slightly loose.

My son is 47" and 43lbs, and rode it twice, I was never concerned about the restraints.

 

[wilkeliza]

Thanks for taking the time to detail this out! We'll be there in Aug, and I am copying this into my trip notes. My concern is the giant-feet-and-giant-calves potential issue... I will report back!



I've got to be honest: this statement is not helpful. It's like a disclaimer or fine print meant to protect a company, or give employees something to point to, to say "see -- we warned you".

Give the ODD types of fit issues this ride is having, they'd have to get more specific for this little disclaimer to actually be useful to guests ahead of time -- like when planning their FP.

I hope it makes enough sense. I've been trying to explain to different people and I just finally landed on the L (straight and proper) visual and then the V visual (feet under but instead of under knees). Of course there might be slight variations to get you to fit but that's the best pre-planning you can know. I will say I walked all the way forward until the knee pads stopped me then sat and then still pushed my feet further forward. I didn't have to force anything but outside of thick thighs I'm pretty "average"

Also the restraint warning is written that way because there is just no one size fits all answer. I know Universal says over 40 inch waist but in this one you could in theory have a pretty big waste that goes sideways and not out and have no issue or small waste but knee issues that cause you not be able to positions your legs properly and have issues as well.

 

[aviva5675]

My 6'2 200 lb cousin said the back restraint was at least an inch or two off his back, didnt even remember feeling the calf restraints, he wears size 14. My 5' 110lb cousin thought the back restraint was so tight she could barely breathe. Im 5'3 140 and thought it was all just right. Not too tight on by back at all.

 

[aviva5675]

how do you delete a post you did?

 

[yulilin3]

a disclaimer or fine print meant to protect a company, or give employees something to point to, to say "see -- we warned you".

that's exactly what it is. The problem I think is that there's no specific type. We have seen short, tall, overweight, all be ok riding and some being not ok to ride.
Hopefully people read this disclaimer and do a bit of research and decide after if booking a fp will work in their situation or not.
It's basically a "get there and check and see if you fit" sort of scenario. But at least people have a heads up about it in advance

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I've got to be honest: this statement is not helpful. It's like a disclaimer or fine print meant to protect a company, or give employees something to point to, to say "see -- we warned you".

That's a fairly standard wording in the biz. (ETA: Probably the most helpful aspect really is that they put the warning up now versus it not being there or only showing on certain things)

I'm all for wanting the restraints to fit the most amount of people as possible but from what I'm gathering this is a ride with restraints where not only height but length of lengths and size of calfs and to an extent where you carry your weight matters.

Good lord I'm not sure Disney could find a way to pinpoint the exact measurements of your calf size, your shoe size, your leg length, where your body weight sits to put on a warning in the first place. Millions and millions of people visit WDW each day all encompassing vastly different body shapes. A test seat and a vague enough warning is about as much as we're likely going to reasonably get. I haven't been on the ride so I don't know if safety is compromised if there was a way to make a seat with more flexibility as far as where the restraints locks in place.

 

[yulilin3]

My 6'2 200 lb cousin said the back restraint was at least an inch or two off his back, didnt even remember feeling the calf restraints, he wears size 14. My 5' 110lb cousin thought the back restraint was so tight she could barely breathe. Im 5'3 140 and thought it was all just right. Not too tight on by back at all.

Exactly, my daughter is slim and she felt it tight at her back I am fluffy and had room to breath
My son, another twig was fine
Here's a pic of us

 

[aviva5675]

so, thought I had seen a pic somewhere of a huge banshee flying over head. Was this a dream I had? I just saw on another thread about the big dragon that flew over new Fantasyland opening...maybe they reimagined it as a banshee?

 

[wilkeliza]

so, thought I had seen a pic somewhere of a huge banshee flying over head. Was this a dream I had? I just saw on another thread about the big dragon that flew over new Fantasyland opening...maybe they reimagined it as a banshee?

In early testing the imagineers did test a banshee being on the vehicle itself. I believe it was determined that since the idea is that you link to an avatar that it would not make sense for your link chair to look like a banshee.

 

[aviva5675]

No, I mean a huge flying in the sky over Pandora banshee...not in FOP

 

[CAS239]

Just got in Orlando. I'll be heading to the 6pm preview soon to line up about 4:45 to hope to get in at 5