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Thanks for the reports guys! Just curious, when did you get in line for and when did they start to let you in to Pandora? Were they doing paper fastpasses? Thanks!

For my 6pm time slot I arrived at 4:45pm and there was a long line all the way back to the bridge.

They started letting people in at about 5:10 - 5:15 and the line moved very fast once people were in. I was on FOP by 5:30pm
 
Having been on the FOP yesterday my question is are the leg restraints completely necessary?

- Can there be something better that will allow more people to ride? maybe a lap seat belt?

IMO I dont really see what the leg restraints accomplish. The back restraint keeps you pretty tucked in.
 
Having been on the FOP yesterday my question is are the leg restraints completely necessary?

- Can there be something better that will allow more people to ride? maybe a lap seat belt?

IMO I dont really see what the leg restraints accomplish. The back restraint keeps you pretty tucked in.

They keep you from standing up and pushing your self out of the back restraint. If you had full access and power to your legs you could easily get out of the back restraint. It also keeps you tucked in to where you can feel the banshee breathing.
 
They keep you from standing up and pushing your self out of the back restraint. If you had full access and power to your legs you could easily get out of the back restraint. It also keeps you tucked in to where you can feel the banshee breathing.


Ok so what can they think of to get more people on? Seat belt? Curve the back restraint more to keep you in?

When I was there last night the person next to me was NOT big at all and she couldnt ride. I looked at her and did a double take and said "WHAT" no way she can not ride.

If the imagineers were able to come up with this amazing ride I think they surely could be able to tweek the restraints somehow.
 

Ok so what can they think of to get more people on? Seat belt? Curve the back restraint more to keep you in?

When I was there last night the person next to me was NOT big at all and she couldnt ride. I looked at her and did a double take and said "WHAT" no way she can not ride.

If the imagineers were able to come up with this amazing ride I think they surely could be able to tweek the restraints somehow.

The only thing I have thought of is the leg area could be different. It could mean the restraint needs to go more forward for smaller people but removing a little padding should be good enough.

I have seen guys that are over 300 ride so it seems very specific as to who may not be able to ride.
 
it also seems like there are "tips" for fitting (sliding forward more, how to position your legs, etc.) so I hope part of the previews was so CMs were trained on how to position people, etc. - to at least allow the maximum number of people that can fit, to fit and be able to ride, etc. ... and then maybe they have made adjustments to some of the click points, etc.

My understanding is that the test seat is not out yet - though as the "click points" seem to be the issue, not the seat itself, I would think they would need CMs out there to help people test everything out, not just the seat by itself
And my thought regarding this seat is with the crowds that are going to be there we could be looking at an hour wait just to get in the darn test seat! We are going to need a FP to test the dumb thing

Ok so what can they think of to get more people on? Seat belt? Curve the back restraint more to keep you in?

When I was there last night the person next to me was NOT big at all and she couldnt ride. I looked at her and did a double take and said "WHAT" no way she can not ride.

If the imagineers were able to come up with this amazing ride I think they surely could be able to tweek the restraints somehow.
The only thing I have thought of is the leg area could be different. It could mean the restraint needs to go more forward for smaller people but removing a little padding should be good enough.

I have seen guys that are over 300 ride so it seems very specific as to who may not be able to ride.
I've begun to wonder if there are some variances in the settings of the different seats.
 
And my thought regarding this seat is with the crowds that are going to be there we could be looking at an hour wait just to get in the darn test seat! We are going to need a FP to test the dumb thing



I've begun to wonder if there are some variances in the settings of the different seats.

There usually aren't variances in the seats. If that was the case CMs would know which ones to put people on when they get there. Now what could be the case is that size is actually subjective. @Spridell can you clarify which restraint didn't lock if you know? I said in my initial review that at 5'6" and only 175 I could see if I was 200 and my height having issues if I had much bigger thighs. I don't think 200 on a 5'6" frame would look super big but if you carry it all in your legs it could be an issue. The restraint has to get into the space below your knee so for some it will hit the calf and others it might hit the thigh based on sitting position and thigh size.
 
There usually aren't variances in the seats. If that was the case CMs would know which ones to put people on when they get there. Now what could be the case is that size is actually subjective. @Spridell can you clarify which restraint didn't lock if you know? I said in my initial review that at 5'6" and only 175 I could see if I was 200 and my height having issues if I had much bigger thighs. I don't think 200 on a 5'6" frame would look super big but if you carry it all in your legs it could be an issue. The restraint has to get into the space below your knee so for some it will hit the calf and others it might hit the thigh based on sitting position and thigh size.
Oh, I know they may not intend there to be variances but I wonder if there are some unintentionally
 
When I was there last night the person next to me was NOT big at all and she couldnt ride. I looked at her and did a double take and said "WHAT" no way she can not ride.

I have seen guys that are over 300 ride so it seems very specific as to who may not be able to ride.

I think that in some ways, the unpredictability of this one is what bothers me most, and makes me think that they may have to try to do SOMETHING to improve this...
 
There usually aren't variances in the seats. If that was the case CMs would know which ones to put people on when they get there. Now what could be the case is that size is actually subjective. @Spridell can you clarify which restraint didn't lock if you know? I said in my initial review that at 5'6" and only 175 I could see if I was 200 and my height having issues if I had much bigger thighs. I don't think 200 on a 5'6" frame would look super big but if you carry it all in your legs it could be an issue. The restraint has to get into the space below your knee so for some it will hit the calf and others it might hit the thigh based on sitting position and thigh size.

Are we at the point yet where we can have tips on how best to position oneself given potential issues (calf size, thigh size, height, etc.)?
 
Are we at the point yet where we can have tips on how best to position oneself given potential issues (calf size, thigh size, height, etc.)?

There are 2 methods. The restraints can be seen so the 1st one is pushing yourself as far forward as possible with your feet in the traditional L like you were sitting on a chair very proper (back straight lets straight even if you have to tippy toe). If you can see your legs are not blocking the restraint chances are you are good. If that does not work then you can take the V method. That would be where your feet are behind your knees instead of under or in front of them. Again if you are taking that approach (which is not how the safety spiel says to sit so thus should be last resort) you have to make sure there is space between your calf and thigh so again visualize that you aren't blocking any of the restraint which can be seen on the sides of the bench seat.
 
Initially I thought the leg restraints were for ride enjoyment (keeping your legs tight in order to feel the "breathing") and a way to keep people from getting up from their banshee and possible getting slightly hurt. But once I say the photo below, I realized that if someone was to get up, they could get seriously hurt between the stationary level and the section that moves up and down. I believe it is imperative to keep people in their seats while the "floor" is moving. In order to have the ride accessible to children and adults, the restraints have limits. That being said, I think Disney could come up with an adjustment on a seat or two that would fit those that are currently close to fitting, and then adjust back to a normal setting.

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I think that in some ways, the unpredictability of this one is what bothers me most, and makes me think that they may have to try to do SOMETHING to improve this...


THIS is exactly what the problem will be. It is such a wide range of people who can and can not ride that Disney will def HAVE to do something.

And lets face it, Dinsey would have a pr problem if they have a CM outside the ride entrance making people test the test vehicle.

They need to sit down and rethink of a universal solution IMO
 
THIS is exactly what the problem will be. It is such a wide range of people who can and can not ride that Disney will def HAVE to do something.

And lets face it, Dinsey would have a pr problem if they have a CM outside the ride entrance making people test the test vehicle.

They need to sit down and rethink of a universal solution IMO

If it is a PR disaster then it is because people make it that. I don't think the average Disney guest is going to ax their entire family trip over 1 ride. If they do then well what can I say. This is coming from a traveling group that still goes to Universal knowing at least 1 person in the group won't be able to ride Forbidden Journey. Also a Universal they do actually have people go to the test vehicles. Sometimes they are just offered and it is up to you other times like at FJ they have to try it at 1 of two points either before entering the line or before load.
 
Any thoughts or 'reviews' from those who rode with younger children? Mine are both tall enough for the height requirement, but are also very small....is smaller not an issue as far as the restraints go? For example, my daughter is ~56" tall but only weighs about 61 pounds. Does anyone know if the restraints come in enough to keep a smaller framed person secured?
 
Any thoughts or 'reviews' from those who rode with younger children? Mine are both tall enough for the height requirement, but are also very small....is smaller not an issue as far as the restraints go? For example, my daughter is ~56" tall but only weighs about 61 pounds. Does anyone know if the restraints come in enough to keep a smaller framed person secured?

Yes they do or they wouldn't have allowed the height require to be where it is. The back restraint can come pretty far forward to get a secure fit. The leg should be no issue either but is okay if it is slightly loose.
 
We are planning to be at AK on July 4th. Park opens at 8 and we plan to rope drop FOP. We will be driving from our resort- what time do you suggest getting to the turnstiles? For those waiting for to make 30 day FP- there are times from 3:05 on for FOP.
 
If it is a PR disaster then it is because people make it that. I don't think the average Disney guest is going to ax their entire family trip over 1 ride. If they do then well what can I say. This is coming from a traveling group that still goes to Universal knowing at least 1 person in the group won't be able to ride Forbidden Journey. Also a Universal they do actually have people go to the test vehicles. Sometimes they are just offered and it is up to you other times like at FJ they have to try it at 1 of two points either before entering the line or before load.

I 100% believe there will be people coming to DW just to go on this ride. It will be that popular. And they won't know until they actually get if they can ride or not.

It is a good step by Disney to post the body size warning on its website
 
Yes they do or they wouldn't have allowed the height require to be where it is. The back restraint can come pretty far forward to get a secure fit. The leg should be no issue either but is okay if it is slightly loose.
Great - Thanks!
 
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