Obama's Aunt- she only get's one thread!

The half-sister of a man he met once in his life. Yeah, he is really responsible for her.
You can't pick your relatives and I don't see where he owes these folks anything.
 
In New York, every ad on TV that Obama has is bashing McCain. Give me some good info on what your goals and plans are in the ad you paid millions for and I may second think my vote against you. I want my country to be in a good place again and if a democrat does it, so be it. But if you say nothing but negative things about your opponant and nothing else, than you are out in my book.
 
None of my Aunt's are random ancestors.....

Actually your Aunts aren't ancestors at all ;) The common ancestor would be either Obama's Father's Father or Obama's Father's Mother. She is his fathers Half-Sister, so either Obama's Grandfather or Grandmother are the common ancestor. Did Obama even ever meet his Paternal grandparents? My father died when I was four. I know he had brothers and sisters, I've never met any of them. I certainly don't consider them "family." It seems Obama is in a similar, but slightly different, situation.
 
Originally Posted by bsnyder
She attended his swearing-in ceremony to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Kind of blows up that idea that he isn't close to her now doesn't it??

BO on immigration: "All you illegals get out, except my relatives. We'll get you on USA government assistance. After all, I'm not going to personally take care of you, our relationship is in blood only....".

The statement that bsyder made has not been backed up.
I asked for a source.
Bsnyder has not provided one.
I have searched the web and I cannot find any truth to the statement.
I think it is a rumor with nothing to back it up.
Show me the proof and I will admit I was wrong.
Until then ..............
 

BO has had a very negative campaign filled with personal attacks. Does anyone remember when he made fun of the fact that JM is unable to use a keyboard due to his war injuries?
You've been snowed. The Obama campaign never said that. Rather, they made the accusation in an ad (this was after McCain started with the negative campaigning and the Obama campaign therefore began responding in-kind) that McCain is out-of-touch (which in many aspects is true) -- specifically computer-illiterate. It was not about his war injuries; it didn't mention them at all. Bad ad, yup, I think so, because it is almost inaccurate, since he is learning how to use the Internet. However, it is not as anything like what you made it sound like. :scratchin
 
The statement that bsyder made has not been backed up.
I asked for a source.
Bsnyder has not provided one.
I have searched the web and I cannot find any truth to the statement.
I think it is a rumor with nothing to back it up.
Show me the proof and I will admit I was wrong.
Until then ..............

Well, in all fairness, I did find one. However, I still don't think Obama is responsible for the actions of this half-aunt.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15161.html
 
Well, in all fairness, I did find one. However, I still don't think Obama is responsible for the actions of this half-aunt.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15161.html

I agree. I don't think he is responsible for his aunt's legal issues...however...it seems when "source please" is put out there and then ANSWERED....

This is not the half sister of a man he knew when he was 10 years old. This is a women he fondly wrote about in his book, a women who visited him and attended his political ceremony, and who donated to his campaign.

Source please...was answered by Obama's own campaign spokesperson. The argument over what it means could go on forever...but it seems apparent that it is not a distant relative who he does not know. The sources listed in this thread support that.
 
My favorite funny columnist, Mark Steyn, on Obama's aunt:

When first I heard about the Undocumented Auntie, I thought I'd finally figured out how this spread-the-wealth thing works: The government taxes Joe the Plumber to fund public housing agencies that illegally provide welfare and accommodation to illegal immigrants thereby freeing up their cash flow to enable them to make illegal campaign contributions to any nephew who might chance to be running for president and get him elected so he can tax Joe the Plumber even more to fund even more public housing for even more illegal immigrants to make even more illegal campaign contributions... Etc.

But this reader looks at Aunt Zeituni & Co in more of a positive way:

It seems like the ultimate modern global economy - First we outsourced our jobs, and then savings, and now we outsource the voting and campaign fund raising. Go USA!
 
Actually your Aunts aren't ancestors at all ;) The common ancestor would be either Obama's Father's Father or Obama's Father's Mother. She is his fathers Half-Sister, so either Obama's Grandfather or Grandmother are the common ancestor. Did Obama even ever meet his Paternal grandparents? My father died when I was four. I know he had brothers and sisters, I've never met any of them. I certainly don't consider them "family." It seems Obama is in a similar, but slightly different, situation.


I was using your words...

The fact remains that an aunt is not a distant relative. This same aunt that donates to his campaing and attended his inaugration in 2004. Please.
 
Thanks to whichever mod merged the two threads....I get confused easily when there is more than one on the same subject...

Originally Posted by minnie61650
The statement that bsyder made has not been backed up.
I asked for a source.
Bsnyder has not provided one.
I have searched the web and I cannot find any truth to the statement.
I think it is a rumor with nothing to back it up.
Show me the proof and I will admit I was wrong.
Until then ..............

Didn't even see this until the other thread got locked, but it's in the yahoo news article that was posted by the OP on one of the two threads (this one? the other one? :confused3 )

Anyways, here's the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_on_el_pr/obama_aunt

She attended Obama's swearing-in to the U.S. Senate in 2004
 
None of my Aunt's are random ancestors.....

Obama aunt leak and timing raise questions
By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 11/1/08 12:42 PM
Obama last heard from Zeituni Onyango, who attended his swearing-in ceremony to the U.S. Senate in 2004, two years ago.
Photo: AP

HENDERSON, Nev. — Barack Obama did not know a relative was living in the United States illegally for the past four years prior to today's Associated Press report, "but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," the campaign said Saturday in a statement.

The Democratic nominee last heard from Zeituni Onyango, who attended his swearing-in ceremony to the U.S. Senate in 2004 and is a half-sister of Obama's late father, two years ago, when she called to say she was in Boston, the campaign said. Campaign officials said they did not assist her in getting a tourist visa and had not known that she was living in America.

News of Onyango's legal status, which the AP confirmed through sources, including a federal law enforcement official, provided an unwelcome diversion for the Obama campaign during its final push toward Election Day and stoked suspicions among supporters of a political motive behind the timing of the leak.

“The American people are pretty sensible,” Axelrod said, “and I think they are pretty suspicious of things that are dumped in the marketplace 72 hours before a campaign, so I am not concerned about that.”

Asked whether he was suggesting there were political motives from a Republican administration, Axelrod said: “I am not saying anything at this point.”

Obama did not respond to questions shouted at him by members of the traveling press corps as he exited Caesars Palace hotel here Saturday morning with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) at his side.

The Associated Press wrote that it confirmed the deportation case with two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP said it could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has written to Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff requesting an immediate investigation of the leak, which he deemed "deplorable" and said "was not the first leak of law enforcement information apparently designed to influence the coming presidential election," referring to an ongoing investigation of voter fraud by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN.

Kelly Nantel, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, would not comment on the leak or whether the agency was looking into it.

"ICE is prohibited from commenting on any individual’s status or the status of any case,” she said. “I would also add that as a matter of practice, we don't discuss law enforcement operational details.”

Given the timing, the case led to an unusual nationwide directive within ICE requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, a U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

John McCain seems to be staying far away from the issue, making no mention of Obama’s family in his two Virginia appearances this morning. His press aides have also remained quiet, issuing no statement about her immigration status.

Obama met Onyango, 56, when he traveled to Africa as an adult, and she earned a mention in his 1995 memoir "Dreams From My Father," in which he referred to her as "Auntie Zeituni."

The campaign said Obama has seen Onyango several times over the years, including during a second trip to Kenya with his wife, Michelle. Onyango previously traveled to Chicago on a tourist visa at the Obamas' invitation about nine years ago before visiting friends on the East Coast and returning to Kenya, according to the campaign.

Axelrod said Obama did not have a close relationship to Onyango.

The campaign will return $265 in contributions that Onyango made to Obama, citing prohibitions against foreign nationals donating to American campaigns.

The Associated Press reported that Onyango had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. Onyango is living in public housing in Boston.

Senior strategist Robert Gibbs shut down any line of questioning Thursday when news broke about Obama's relative, telling reporters, "I'm not going to get into it."

Reporters asked, "Why not?"

"I'm just not," Gibbs said.
 
I just want to say I hope all McCain voter's get out and vote. I have my whole family heading off to the polls. I'm praying he can win this election. I don't want this country to get any worse than it is. I'm worried about the economy as well as our security. The guy is just scary. I took my blinders off along time ago!
 
Give me a break. He only met his father once, yet the Obama haters on this board think he is obligated/responsible for his father's family.
Sorry, I think not.

What about Obamas own brother?

British newspapers reported that Obamas BROTHER lives on less then $1 a month in Africa! Obama is the one who preaches to take care of family.
 
I was using your words...

The fact remains that an aunt is not a distant relative. This same aunt that donates to his campaing and attended his inaugration in 2004. Please.

Then you were using my words incorrectly, or misunderstood them. I said I don't consider everyone with whom I happen to randomly share a common ancestor to be family. I never said aunts were "random ancestors." But I certainly don't consider all of my grandparents offspring and their offspring to be "family."
 
If McCain was out and about telling people not to abuse 911 then we could compare the two. Obama is out there telling us all "we are our brothers keepers", so why can't he "walk the walk" with an Aunt he spoke dearly of in a book that netted him 100's of thousand of dollars.

No, like in typical liberal fashion, he wants others to do it. It's selfish (and unpatriotic) not to.

Many OS have no problem with any tax increases yet when pressed, most all do not forgo any tax breaks afforded them by the tax code. They won't send a check to the IRS for more than the actually owe. They will only "step up to the plate" and put more money in the public trough when everyone else is forced to do so along with them.
::yes::
 
What about Obamas own brother?

British newspapers reported that Obamas BROTHER lives on less then $1 a month in Africa! Obama is the one who preaches to take care of family.

Half-brother actually. Again, I've met my half-brother once, 46 years ago. Would you hold me responsible for his living conditions if I were to run for office.
 
BO has had a very negative campaign filled with personal attacks. Does anyone remember when he made fun of the fact that JM is unable to use a keyboard due to his war injuries? That was VERY personal, yet the MSM glossed over it as if he did no wrong. They seem to be able to dish it out quite easily, but they cannot take it back.
Geesh! You make it sound like the commercial actually brought up his war injuries. :rotfl: In reality, it only poked fun at the fact that he isn't up to date on current technology. I have the utmost respect for McCain's military service and his years as a POW, but come on. I know quadriplegics who can use a computer. I'm sure John McCain could find a way if he wanted to.
 
If McCain was out and about telling people not to abuse 911 then we could compare the two. Obama is out there telling us all "we are our brothers keepers", so why can't he "walk the walk" with an Aunt he spoke dearly of in a book that netted him 100's of thousand of dollars.

No, like in typical liberal fashion, he wants others to do it. It's selfish (and unpatriotic) not to.

Many OS have no problem with any tax increases yet when pressed, most all do not forgo any tax breaks afforded them by the tax code. They won't send a check to the IRS for more than the actually owe. They will only "step up to the plate" and put more money in the public trough when everyone else is forced to do so along with them.

Half-brother actually. Again, I've met my half-brother once, 46 years ago. Would you hold me responsible for his living conditions if I were to run for office.
Yes i would....If you were preaching we needed to spread the wealth....and if you were preaching we need to take care of family and those with less.
 
What about Obamas own brother?

British newspapers reported that Obamas BROTHER lives on less then $1 a month in Africa! Obama is the one who preaches to take care of family.
And CNN reports that is inaccurate.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/

According to George Obama:
The reports left him angry.

"I was brought up well. I live well even now," he said. "The magazines, they have exaggerated everything.

"I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges," Obama said.

Obama, who is in his mid-20s, is learning to become a mechanic and is active in youth groups in Huruma. He said he tries to help the community as much as he can.
 


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