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Obama Goes After Hillary Voters

Barack Obama wooed Hillary Clinton’s key constituency today: women over the age of 50. He hosted a roundtable on retirement security, where five women spoke of their struggles.

One undecided voter, Colleen Hunninghoff, told Obama that she understands why young voters are jumping on the “Obama bandwagon,” but wants to know what the real differences are between him and Clinton.

“We’ve been doing well amongst more experienced voters as well,” Obama chuckled, going on to explain that he is more capable of unifying the people and ending the “political bickering” in Washington. “I’m a Democrat but there are people out there who are Republicans and we’ve got to be able to cross the aisle in order to get things done,” he said.

He also accused Hillary Clinton of taking money from special interests and not taking the issue of lobbyists seriously.

“I think I take it a lot more serious than Senator Clinton does,” Obama said. “She doesn’t mind taking money from those sources and I don’t see that as central to the changes that are needed.”



http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/02/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry3875379.shtml
 
A funny cartoon:
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Poll: Obama Rises in Voter Popularity---Great News!!

Voters’ opinions of the top three presidential candidates have shifted significantly over the past two months, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

Currently Senator Barack Obama is viewed more favorably than both Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator John McCain among all registered voters. Forty-five percent of voters said they have a favorable opinion of Mr. Obama, while about 35 percent have a favorable view of Mrs. Clinton and 36 percent said the same of Mr. McCain.

Mr. Obama is personally more well-liked than is Mrs. Clinton among those who vote in Democratic contests. Nearly 7 in 10 say they have a favorable opinion of Mr. Obama, the highest rating for him in a New York Times/CBS News poll since the start of the primaries. In contrast, Mrs. Clinton is viewed favorably by 61 percent of the party’s voters, down from 68 percent in December.:cool1:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/poll-obama-rises-in-voter-popularity/
 
Hillary's quote:
"I could stand up here and say, let's just get everybody together, let's get unified, the sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect," she told a crowd that laughed at and cheered the jab at Obama's hopeful rhetoric. "... You are not going to wave a magic wand and have the special interests disappear."
I talked to a Democrat friend in TX today. She worked in Wash. for a Democratic senator and previously a Demo. representative. Her line "I wish we could just wave a magic wand and have the Clintons go away."
 

Jonathan Alter Newsweek editorial

Hillary Should Get Out Now
Clinton has only one shot—for Obama to trip up so badly that he disqualifies himself.
Mar 3, 2008 Issue

If Hillary Clinton wanted a graceful exit, she'd drop out now—before the March 4 Texas and Ohio primaries—and endorse Barack Obama. This would be terrible for people like me who have been dreaming of a brokered convention for decades. For selfish reasons, I want the story to stay compelling for as long as possible, which means I'm hoping for a battle into June for every last delegate and a bloody floor fight in late August in Denver. But to withdraw this week would be the best thing imaginable for Hillary's political career. She won't, of course, and for reasons that help explain why she's in so much trouble in the first place.

Withdrawing would be stupid if Hillary had a reasonable chance to win the nomination, but she doesn't. To win, she would have to do more than reverse the tide in Texas and Ohio, where polls show Obama already even or closing fast. She would have to hold off his surge, then establish her own powerful momentum within three or four days. Without a victory of 20 points or more in both states, the delegate math is forbidding. In Pennsylvania, which votes on April 22, the Clinton campaign did not even file full delegate slates. That's how sure they were of putting Obama away on Super Tuesday.

The much-ballyhooed race for superdelegates is now nearly irrelevant. Some will be needed in Denver to put Obama over the top, just as Walter Mondale had to round up a couple dozen in 1984. But these party leaders won't determine the result. At the Austin, Texas, debate last week, Hillary agreed that the process would "sort itself out" so that the will of the people would not be reversed by superdelegates. Obama has a commanding 159 lead in pledged delegates and a lead of 925,000 in the popular vote (excluding Michigan and Florida, where neither campaigned). Closing that gap would require Hillary to win all the remaining contests by crushing margins. Any takers on her chances of doing so in, say, Mississippi and North Carolina, where African-Americans play a big role?

The pundit class hasn't been quicker to point all this out because of what happened in New Hampshire. A lot of us looked foolish by all but writing Hillary off when she lost the Iowa caucuses. As we should have known, stuff happens in politics. But that was early. The stuff that would have to happen now would be on a different order of magnitude. It's time to stop overlearning the lesson of New Hampshire.

Hillary has only one shot—for Obama to trip up so badly that he disqualifies himself. Nothing in the last 14 months suggests he will. He has made plenty of small mistakes, but we're past the point where a "likable enough" comment will turn the tide. When Obama bragged in the Austin debate about how "good" his speeches were, the boast barely registered. He has brought up his game so sharply that even a head cold and losing the health-care portion of the debate on points did nothing to derail him. Hillary's Hail Mary pass—that Obama is a plagiarist—was incomplete.

So if the Clintonites were assessing with a cold eye, they would know that the odds of Hillary's looking bad on March 4 are high. Even Bill Clinton said last week that Texas and Ohio are must-win states. If she wants to stay in anyway, one way to go is to play through to June so as to give as many people as possible a chance to express their support. While this would be contrary to the long-stated wish of many Democrats (including the Clintons) to avoid a long, divisive primary season, it's perfectly defensible.
But imagine if, instead of waiting to be marginalized or forced out, Hillary decided to defy the stereotype we have of her family? Imagine if she drew a distinction between "never quit" as it applies to fighting Kenneth Starr and the Republicans on the one hand, and fellow Democrats on the other? Imagine if she had, well, the imagination for a breathtaking act of political theater that would make her seem the epitome of grace and class and party unity, setting herself up perfectly for 2012 if Obama loses?

The conventional view is that the Clintons approach power the way hard-core gun owners approach a weapon—they'll give it up only when it's wrenched from their cold, dead fingers. When I floated this idea of her quitting, Hillary aides scoffed that it would never happen. Their Pollyanna-ish assessment of the race offered a glimpse inside the bunker. These are the same loyalists who told Hillary that she was inevitable, that experience was a winning theme, that going negative in a nice state like Iowa would work, that all Super Tuesday caucus states could be written off. The Hillary who swallowed all that will never withdraw.

But in her beautiful closing answer in the Austin debate, I glimpsed a different, more genuine, almost valedictory Hillary Clinton. She talked about the real suffering of Americans and, echoing John Edwards, said, "Whatever happens, we'll be fine." She described what "an honor" it was to be in a campaign with Barack Obama, and seemed to mean it. The choice before her is to go down ugly with a serious risk of humiliation at the polls, or to go down classy, with a real chance of redemption. Why not the latter? Besides, it would wreck the spring of all her critics in the press. If she thinks of it that way, maybe it's not such an outlandish idea after all.

© 2008 Newsweek, Inc.
 
Good take
Jonathan Alter Newsweek editorial.The conventional view is that the Clintons approach power the way hard-core gun owners approach a weapon—they'll give it up only when it's wrenched from their cold, dead fingers.
 
Good take

I caught 5 minutes of MSNBC in our pantry today at lunch and he was on saying the same thing; he wasn't counting her out and he said anything can happen. But the anchor was basically yelling at him that Hillary should stay in, and he said "Yes, but after TX and OH if she does not win big, she should drop out." The anchor seemed a bit whacky, not for her views, but that she was actually yelling.



I'm going to check out the obama blog now...I see we are almost within 17K donors of 1 million!
 
http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5147

SUSA will release a new TX poll tonight at 11:00 pm. Their last poll showed Clinton: 50 Obama: 45. Here is their teaser:
SurveyUSA's Texas clients, KTRK-TV Houston, KTVT-TV Dallas and KRLD-AM radio Dallas, will release results of SurveyUSA's newest Democratic Primary poll tonight at 11 pm ET, 10 pm CT.
1 in 4 Democratic primary voters have already voted. But for whom? Stay tuned ...
 
Every thing is pointing towards a good outcome on the 4th. :thumbsup2

I saw a blurb on the local news about Obama's actual votes being so far above the polls in the elections to date. Apparently, polls are conducted on land based phone lines, which most middle aged/senior homes use, but a large contingent of Obama's base is young and professional, who tend to use cell based lines. That could explain it. Our one land line is hooked to our fax machine. We never use it for calls.
 
I think we might be able to overtake her in TX but I think OH will be much harder but she won't get the win she needs - I'd say it's less than double digits which means she's held in the low to mid 50s.
 
Every thing is pointing towards a good outcome on the 4th. :thumbsup2

I saw a blurb on the local news about Obama's actual votes being so far above the polls in the elections to date. Apparently, polls are conducted on land based phone lines, which most middle aged/senior homes use, but a large contingent of Obama's base is young and professional, who tend to use cell based lines. That could explain it. Our one land line is hooked to our fax machine. We never use it for calls.

I was more interested in Ohio. CNN interviewed a talking head from the Clinton campaign who said they were up by 8 points in Ohio in a poll published today. Wolf then asked, isn't that the same poll that had Clinton up by 22 two weeks ago? No snappy comeback to that.

I'll gladly vote for either candidate (although I would prefer Obama), but this tide that has been rolling across the electorate is really impressive.

I really fell in love with this year's electorate when they told Romney to take his 42 million and pound sand--they are a fiesty crowd.
 
You've got the best lines. :rotfl:

Hey, it's a great year for us. We have two great Democratic candidates driving huge numbers of voting.

For the first time I can remember, Democrats are raising many more times the amount of money the Republicans are (the Congressional fundraising efforts look just as good as the Presidential results).

More people show up to the opening of an envelope than to hear the Republican nominee speak.

Life is good. :drive:
 
Hey, it's a great year for us. We have two great Democratic candidates driving huge numbers of voting.

For the first time I can remember, Democrats are raising many more times the amount of money the Republicans are (the Congressional fundraising efforts look just as good as the Presidential results).

More people show up to the opening of an envelope than to hear the Republican nominee speak.

Life is good. :drive:

Next stop, the White House! :cheer2:
 
Tell them to leave the windows open when they move out -- we'll want to air out the West Wing.

I can't wait to go into the District to watch Obama's Inauguration parade. I wonder how they'll redecorate. :scratchin

It'll be sunny and beautiful weather (even in January) in DC for weeks after Bush is gone. :beach:
 
That's really promising given we were down by 20+ a week ago. :thumbsup2 I can't believe how close TX is.

I read an article today (just got in from work so don't have the energy to get the link) saying that in some heavy Obama areas in TX, early voting is up 900%. There were about 7 counties listed where early voting was up more than 5 times, all in pro-obama areas. :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

Yep, there is heavy turn out in the Democratic Party here in Tarrant County. I voted Tuesday which was the first early voting day. In the Ft. Worth Star Telegram, it was noted that 11,336 votes were cast Wednesday and Thursday in the Democratic primary and only 5,188 in the GOP.

I will be very surprised if Obama does not WIN Texas. I attended a rally last Wednesday at Reunion Arena in Dallas and there were 17,000 in attendance with many turned away. Emmitt Smith (ex-Cowboys RB) introduced Obama.

Now, I just found out that Obama will be back on Thursday and in Ft. Worth this time at the Convention Center.

By the way, would you believe that Bill Clinton showed up at my church last Sunday. He was a guest of Bishop T.D. Jakes at the Potter's House in Dallas.
 
By the way, would you believe that Bill Clinton showed up at my church last Sunday. He was a guest of Bishop T.D. Jakes at the Potter's House in Dallas.

He's a good speaker.

I'll tell you, the level of public speaking in this campaign has really jumped from four years ago. We had John Kerry (who could put a cocaine freak to sleep) and George Bush (who likely used cocaine better than he could pronounce it). Casting a vote was a real pleasure--I can't wait to do it again.
 
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