Nose rings

[disneyjunkie]

The problem isn't with me it's with society. It's really sad that there are those in society who automatically judge people because of a certain way they look. I didn't care what society thought of me when I got my tattoos because I got them for me not for anybody else. Shouldn't people be teaching their children to not judge people based upon how they look? My parents sure did and I grew up to be a better person for it.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

The problem isn't with me it's with society. It's really sad that there are those in society who automatically judge people because of a certain way they look. I didn't care what society thought of me when I got my tattoos because I got them for me not for anybody else. Shouldn't people be teaching their children to not judge people based upon how they look? My parents sure did and I grew up to be a better person for it.

Yes they should. However, how you choose to dress reflects upon you. I would love to wear jeans to my classroom everyday because I frequently get down on the floor with my students, but it is considered unprofessional so I don't. If I choose to wear my Disney t-shirts to my classroom then I know the parents will not have as much confidence in me and may actually look down on me. I know that some people already take me less seriously because I look like I'm 12 or 14 to most people. I can't help that, but I can help the way I dressed.

I have many friends with tattoos and piercings who are very nice hardworking people so I do try to withold judgment, but like I said, I do not expect to see it in a professional environment. If you consciously choose to look a certain way despite what society thinks, I don't think you should be offended by their judgment. I dont' get offended when I go to restaurants and get offered children's menus if I'm wearing my Disney t-shirts, I know that is a possibility when I put it on. I choose to wear it anyway because I like it. If I choose to wear a political shirt I don't get offended if I get comments about it or people look at me funny because they are voting for another person. Again, I made that choice knowing the possible outcomes. This is no different. If you choose to dress a certain way, it is because you are sending a message to others and when how you dress is the only information about you somebody has, that is wha they will base their conclusions off of.

 

[ophelia]

Yes they should. However, how you choose to dress reflects upon you. I would love to wear jeans to my classroom everyday because I frequently get down on the floor with my students, but it is considered unprofessional so I don't. If I choose to wear my Disney t-shirts to my classroom then I know the parents will not have as much confidence in me and may actually look down on me. I know that some people already take me less seriously because I look like I'm 12 or 14 to most people. I can't help that, but I can help the way I dressed.

I have many friends with tattoos and piercings who are very nice hardworking people so I do try to withold judgment, but like I said, I do not expect to see it in a professional environment. If you consciously choose to look a certain way despite what society thinks, I don't think you should be offended by their judgment. I dont' get offended when I go to restaurants and get offered children's menus if I'm wearing my Disney t-shirts, I know that is a possibility when I put it on. I choose to wear it anyway because I like it. If I choose to wear a political shirt I don't get offended if I get comments about it or people look at me funny because they are voting for another person. Again, I made that choice knowing the possible outcomes. This is no different. If you choose to dress a certain way, it is because you are sending a message to others and when how you dress is the only information about you somebody has, that is wha they will base their conclusions off of.

Again, that is them passing their judgement upon me. It has nothing to do with me, it's them. I never want a corporate job because I don't want to be judged upon how I look instead of my work performance. When people pass judgement upon me I don't get offended, rather I pity them because instead of trying to get to know me they are going to assume I am a drug user or a 'bad' person.

 

[E-I-E-I-O]

Yes they should. However, how you choose to dress reflects upon you. I would love to wear jeans to my classroom everyday because I frequently get down on the floor with my students, but it is considered unprofessional so I don't. If I choose to wear my Disney t-shirts to my classroom then I know the parents will not have as much confidence in me and may actually look down on me. I know that some people already take me less seriously because I look like I'm 12 or 14 to most people. I can't help that, but I can help the way I dressed.

I have many friends with tattoos and piercings who are very nice hardworking people so I do try to withold judgment, but like I said, I do not expect to see it in a professional environment. If you consciously choose to look a certain way despite what society thinks, I don't think you should be offended by their judgment. I dont' get offended when I go to restaurants and get offered children's menus if I'm wearing my Disney t-shirts, I know that is a possibility when I put it on. I choose to wear it anyway because I like it. If I choose to wear a political shirt I don't get offended if I get comments about it or people look at me funny because they are voting for another person. Again, I made that choice knowing the possible outcomes. This is no different. If you choose to dress a certain way, it is because you are sending a message to others and when how you dress is the only information about you somebody has, that is wha they will base their conclusions off of.

Teachers at my childs' school wear jeans. All of them. And one of them has piercings and tattoos. But the director of the school, and the parents the school attracts knows that it's not appearances or the clothes one chooses to wear that makes a good teacher. So don't fret, there might just be a place for you.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Okay, it sounded like you were acting offended. I would love to have a tattoo, but other than the medical aspect of why I can't get one, I also know that it will affect my ability to return to my job as a performer at Disney. I had to make that decision. If your willing to accept the limitations it places on your employment, more power to you.

Once I started watching LA Ink on TLC I saw tattoos in a whole new light. Some of them really are quite beautiful and they certainly are more socially acceptable than they used to be, especially in urban areas. You kind of have to know the area you are from. Where I am now that would not fly. But then again, we still have people pray before faculty meetings in which food is served (and this is a public school). Tattoos and alternative piercings would not be acceptable. I've seen teachers in other districts with little studs in their noses, and those don't look too bad (some are actually cute). The problem is that the teacher is a role model and the kids may want to emulate what you do. The dress issue is just the tip of the iceberg. I know of a teacher who was fired after a student saw that teacher have one beer at a meal then get into their car (not impaired in the slightest). Part of taking the job is knowing that even in your private life you have to be very careful and even legal activities can cost you your job. That is why teachers I know won't even go the bars in their own town but will go one town over so they don't run into parents.

 

[ophelia]

Okay, it sounded like you were acting offended. I would love to have a tattoo, but other than the medical aspect of why I can't get one, I also know that it will affect my ability to return to my job as a performer at Disney. I had to make that decision. If your willing to accept the limitations it places on your employment, more power to you.

Once I started watching LA Ink on TLC I saw tattoos in a whole new light. Some of them really are quite beautiful and they certainly are more socially acceptable than they used to be, especially in urban areas. You kind of have to know the area you are from. Where I am now that would not fly. But then again, we still have people pray before faculty meetings in which food is served (and this is a public school). Tattoos and alternative piercings would not be acceptable. I've seen teachers in other districts with little studs in their noses, and those don't look too bad (some are actually cute). The problem is that the teacher is a role model and the kids may want to emulate what you do. The dress issue is just the tip of the iceberg. I know of a teacher who was fired after a student saw that teacher have one beer at a meal then get into their car (not impaired in the slightest). Part of taking the job is knowing that even in your private life you have to be very careful and even legal activities can cost you your job. That is why teachers I know won't even go the bars in their own town but will go one town over so they don't run into parents.

I would never want a job in which I was judged upon what I did on my own time. Once I clock out what I do is my own business.

 

[E-I-E-I-O]

No, I'm not offended at all, but stating that where my child goes to school clothing and body modification isn't an issue IRT the teachers, and if it was indeed something imporant to you finding, they do exist. That's all.

It's unfortunate that so much of what personal life entails spills over to your work life. I'm sorry you have to walk such a fine line and find a happy balance somewhere.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

No, I'm not offended at all, but stating that where my child goes to school clothing and body modification isn't an issue IRT the teachers, and if it was indeed something imporant to you finding, they do exist. That's all.

It's unfortunate that so much of what personal life entails spills over to your work life. I'm sorry you have to walk such a fine line and find a happy balance somewhere.

I didn't realize when I started the program how careful we have to be. I'm super paranoid about my facebook page and have deleted any tags of photos in which I have alcohol (even though I am of age) and make sure that my profile is set to private, not that there is anything on there I think would be objectionable. It's annoying, but I want to teach so that is the sacrifice that I have to make.

 

[Shelton123]

Peircings can be attractive! If you have a little eyebrow, or nose, or belly it's OK. Ears are obviously OK too. I'll let the tongue ring slide, since you can't really see it. Anything else, though, I think is kinda ugly.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Peircings can be attractive! If you have a little eyebrow, or nose, or belly it's OK. Ears are obviously OK too. I'll let the tongue ring slide, since you can't really see it. Anything else, though, I think is kinda ugly.

I don't know why but tongue rings always drive me kind of nuts. I think it's because when you first get them you talk funny, and it looks like you could chip a tooth so easily. Plus, I can't imagine the pain of ramming something through your tongue! I don't like it when people look uncomfortable and that looks uncomfortable.

 

[Camicar]

I'll let the tongue ring slide, since you can't really see it.

So many people I know with tongue piercings play with them all the time, so you can see them. And then their justifications for them which revolve around their sex lives... Ugh. All around, TMI

 

[honugirl]

It used to really bother me when my favorite hairstylist was on maternity leave and I had to get my hair cut by another one who did a very nice job, but the end of her nose ring stuck out like a big booger. It was very distracting. I kept wanting to pull out a Kleenex. Rather than focus on her and what she was doing, my eyes automatically went to that.

If you want to be taken seriously, then you have to make choices that present yourself in the best possible light. If that means no tattoos or piercings, then that's what you have to do. It would be very hard for me to take my neurosurgeon seriously if he had a nose ring hanging out looking like a booger or a tongue piercing or a big weird looking tattoo on his face.

Yes, I do have friends with tattoos and piercings.

 

[bluesaturn]

I've been wanting to get my nose pierced for quite a while and never got around to it. This thread reminded me I need to do that soon!

 

[maelstrom]

If you were in a car accident, and one of the paramedics who arrived at the scene had a nose ring, would you refuse to allow him/her to treat your wounds, because you think they might have a boogie in their nose?

(The following rant is not directed at the OP, but is a general rant about the state of humanity and the attitude of people in general.)

I have an eyebrow piercing, I wear eyeliner and brightly coloured eye shadow, my hair used to be bright pink (it's currently growing out, and between the pink, bleach, and my natural brown roots, my hair looks like neopolitan ice cream), and genetics has blessed me (sarcasm) with looking like a 12 year old when I am in fact 23. I'm also very polite and professional while at work. I will be a certified pharmacy technician upon passing the PTCE at the end of next month (I currently work at a lumber yard). I wonder how many people will refuse their diabetes or heart medication because that little girl who should be in school (I get that all the time) and has a hole in her face is the one who filled it. I do not accept or tolerate discrimination and nastiness, and I don't think it's okay for people to act that way because of the colour of my hair, the makeup I wear, the jewelry I wear, the age that I look, or even because I might happen to be wearing a Disney t-shirt.

 

[bicker]

This is one of those fundamental "my way is better than your way" versus "live and let live" kind of issues. We each, of course, can have our own perspectives on whether we, personally, would do this-or-that to ourselves, and whether we find this-or-that attractive to our own eyes or not, but it is incumbent on us, living in a society with other people, to recognized and acknowledge that the purview of our perspectives don't extend past our own personal space. As long as whatever that other person is doing is legal, and sanitary with regard to their service to us, and in keeping with their personal perspectives on right-and-wrong, then we are obligated to respect that decision as a reflection of the inherent right of respect due to everyone.

 

[ophelia]

It used to really bother me when my favorite hairstylist was on maternity leave and I had to get my hair cut by another one who did a very nice job, but the end of her nose ring stuck out like a big booger. It was very distracting. I kept wanting to pull out a Kleenex. Rather than focus on her and what she was doing, my eyes automatically went to that.

If you want to be taken seriously, then you have to make choices that present yourself in the best possible light. If that means no tattoos or piercings, then that's what you have to do. It would be very hard for me to take my neurosurgeon seriously if he had a nose ring hanging out looking like a booger or a tongue piercing or a big weird looking tattoo on his face.

Yes, I do have friends with tattoos and piercings.

Why not take somebody seriously that has a tattoo or a piercing? Are people with tatoos and peircings less responsible or more incapable of making decisions?

 

[damo]

My husband can't even look at someone with a facial piercing. It just makes him queezy. It has nothing to do with his upbringing but everything to do with the thought of sharp objects being thrust through tender facial areas. Our daughter's boyfriend has an eyebrow piercing and even after 3 years, it is still really difficult for my husband to deal with even though he likes the guy. It just affects some people that way and people actually shouldn't judge them and say that they are being judgemental when they just have weak stomachs!

It doesn't bother me but there is no way he'd be able to eat in the environment described by the OP.

 

[Disney Doll]

This is one of those fundamental "my way is better than your way" versus "live and let live" kind of issues. We each, of course, can have our own perspectives on whether we, personally, would do this-or-that to ourselves, and whether we find this-or-that attractive to our own eyes or not, but it is incumbent on us, living in a society with other people, to recognized and acknowledge that the purview of our perspectives don't extend past our own personal space. As long as whatever that other person is doing is legal, and sanitary with regard to their service to us, and in keeping with their personal perspectives on right-and-wrong, then we are obligated to respect that decision as a reflection of the inherent right of respect due to everyone.

And I certainly would respect their decision as a reflection of the inherent right of respect due to everyone. I also believe that they are obligated to respect my right to not like or agree with their choices, and to make my decisions based on my "personal perspectives on right and wrong".

So, following that logic, it is my right, if I do not like the appearance of someone I encounter, to choose not to have an encounter with them. If it is a retail establishment of some sort...an establishment that offers a "service" so to speak, then I have the right to choose to take my business elsewhere. If I went into a restaurant and every server had body piercings or what I considered to be unclean employees or unclean practices, I would simply choose a different restaurant. And that would be my "right". And I would exercise that right. Just like they exercise their "right" to get body piercings.

That's always the problem with that "rights" argument...it works both ways.

 

[rie'smom]

And I certainly would respect their decision as a reflection of the inherent right of respect due to everyone. I also believe that they are obligated to respect my right to not like or agree with their choices, and to make my decisions based on my "personal perspectives on right and wrong".

So, following that logic, it is my right, if I do not like the appearance of someone I encounter, to choose not to have an encounter with them. If it is a retail establishment of some sort...an establishment that offers a "service" so to speak, then I have the right to choose to take my business elsewhere. If I went into a restaurant and every server had body piercings or what I considered to be unclean employees or unclean practices, I would simply choose a different restaurant. And that would be my "right". And I would exercise that right. Just like they exercise their "right" to get body piercings.

That's always the problem with that "rights" argument...it works both ways.

Thank-you.

 

[Feralpeg]

Some will think this weird, but it's just me. Every time I see a nose ring on a person, a picture of Ferdinand the bull comes to mind. I admit it. I'm old and I don't get the attraction to all the piercings.