New ticket system coming to WDW - Begins October 16th

[SL6827]

Ok, thanks. Its just seems like a lot is going to change and I guess we won't know all the nitty gritty till it does.

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

What if you don't have a resort stay with Disney then?

Your example was if you book an 8-night package. If you don't have a resort stay and you purchase a 3-day ticket, you have 5 days to use your ticket beginning with your start date you chose at purchase. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[SL6827]

Your example was if you book an 8-night package. If you don't have a resort stay and you purchase a 3-day ticket, you have 5 days to use your ticket beginning with your start date you chose at purchase. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

So could a resort stay then have an extra benefit you think?

 

[Robo]

So could a resort stay then have an extra benefit you think?

If a guest was trying to "stretch" the time before a ticket with a very few number of "days" on it expires, then yes.

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

So could a resort stay then have an extra benefit you think?

I guess, if you want to spread your days out over a longer time period. But either way, you still get 3 days.

 

[Robo]

Your example was if you book an 8-night package. If you don't have a resort stay and you purchase a 3-day ticket, you have 5 days to use your ticket beginning with your start date you chose at purchase. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

If the info that has been presented is correct, your example is correct.

 

[SL6827]

I guess, if you want to spread your days out over a longer time period. But either way, you still get 3 days.

Ok, thanks. I am still a bit confused. Its all good. I will just wait and see how it all unfolds. Don't plan on returning to the theme parks for several years anyways, so by then I am sure I will get it. If I can figure out the use year month thing with DVC, I will get this too. LoL.

 

[scrappinginontario]

So could a resort stay then have an extra benefit you think?

A 3 day ticket if you are not staying onsite will need to be fully used in 5 calendar days.

A 3 day ticket that is purchased with say a 7 night Disney resort reservation will be valid from the day you arrive until the day you leave. Staying at a Disney resort overrides the 3 + 2 day window the ticket is valid.

Either way you will only be able to go to parks for 3 days but staying onsite will lengthen the number of days you have to use your ticket if it's longer than 5 days.

 

[SL6827]

A 3 day ticket if you are not staying onsite will need to be fully used in 5 calendar days.

A 3 day ticket that is purchased with say a 7 night Disney resort reservation will be valid from the day you arrive until the day you leave. Staying at a Disney resort overrides the 3 + 2 day window the ticket is valid.

Either way you will only be able to go to parks for 3 days but staying onsite will lengthen the number of days you have to use your ticket if it's longer than 5 days.

So a slight benefit there.

 

[scrappinginontario]

So a slight benefit there.

Yes. It really depends on how many days you were going to stay and how you like to organize your time. If you like to go to the parks on days that are close together then there really is no advantage that way to changing your plans.

If you're staying for a long time and like to spread out the days that you go to the parks then there is an advantage to staying onsite.

There really are SOOOO many other factors that come into play though in determining what is best for your family.

LOL - I'm not a good one to ask as I've been to Disney over 30 times and stayed offsite exactly twice. Kinda biased here....and proud of it!

 

[SL6827]

Yes. It really depends on how many days you were going to stay and how you like to organize your time. If you like to go to the parks on days that are close together then there really is no advantage that way to changing your plans.

If you're staying for a long time and like to spread out the days that you go to the parks then there is an advantage to staying onsite.

There really are SOOOO many other factors that come into play though in determining what is best for your family.

LOL - I'm not a good one to ask as I've been to Disney over 30 times and stayed offsite exactly twice. Kinda biased here....and proud of it!

I have never stayed off site so I feel you. What I am getting at is it seems like right now with some of the hard to get fast passes, you need to book those as far out in your trip as you can. Like getting FOP is a lot easier to get at 60 plus 6-7 vs 60 plus 3-4, from what I have read.

 

[SL6827]

When we return for a trip with the parks involved I know I will want it to be a longer one. Like at least 6-7 nights because I do like to space out my park days and my rest/resort days. So I am thinking in about 3-4 years maybe getting like a 4 day park hopper with a 6-7 night stay. Until then I will probably do a water park trip, maybe a cruise, maybe Hilton Head.

 

[scrappinginontario]

I have never stayed off site so I feel you. What I am getting at is it seems like right now with some of the hard to get fast passes, you need to book those as far out in your trip as you can. Like getting FOP is a lot easier to get at 60 plus 6-7 vs 60 plus 3-4, from what I have read.

Sorry if I'm not understanding you correctly.

A guest staying at a Disney resort is eligible to book their FPs 60 days prior to their arrival day. They can book FPs for as many days as they have park tickets, up to 60 + 10 days.

A guest staying offsite is eligible to book their FPs 30 days in advance via the calendar. (e.g. As today is October 1st, a guest with a valid park ticket can obtain FastPasses for October 31st or sooner)

I don't believe that if you're staying onsite, the number of days you can book FPs for will lessen from 60 + 10 but I guess only time will tell.

Please let me know if this isn't clear.

 

[SL6827]

Sorry if I'm not understanding you correctly.

A guest staying at a Disney resort is eligible to book their FPs 60 days prior to their arrival day. They can book FPs for as many days as they have park tickets, up to 60 + 10 days.

A guest staying offsite is eligible to book their FPs 30 days in advance via the calendar. (e.g. As today is October 1st, a guest with a valid park ticket can obtain FastPasses for October 31st or sooner)

I don't believe that if you're staying onsite, the number of days you can book FPs for will lessen from 60 + 10 but I guess only time will tell.

Please let me know if this isn't clear.

Ok, I am confused. The only thing I get is that you have a better shot at getting the hard to get fast passes towards the end of a longer trip verses a shorter trip.

 

[scrappinginontario]

Ok, I am confused. The only thing I get is that you have a better shot at getting the hard to get fast passes towards the end of a longer trip verses a shorter trip.

Sorry, what I was trying to say is that you get a better chance of getting the harder to get FPs when staying onsite as you can book them 60 days in advance of your resort arrival date as opposed to when you stay offsite and you can book them 30 days from current date.

But yes, you're correct, if you are staying onsite, the longer your trip, the better chance you have of getting the harder to book FPs as you'll be booking them as far out as you can.

 

[boilermakeric]

Interested if anyone has an educated speculation on what may happen for my situation. I don’t think this exact question has been considered yet… (also recognizing it’s probably still speculation)


We arrive in a few weeks on 10/18. Originally, we purchased 6 Day Base tickets (hard tickets from UCT, linked in), and planned to add MNSSHP tickets for 10/21 evening. After the number of reports of crowded parties this year, we’re rethinking the party and may want to instead add PH to change up some of our evening plans across the six days.


Does anyone expect that an upgrade to PH after the 10/16 switch would be treated as “just a PH upgrade”, allowing a typical PH add-on price for each ticket? I would be totally on board with this, even if we must accept any revisions to new PH incremental pricing (for example, $90/ticket)


What I wouldn’t want to happen is that the upgrade is viewed as an “entirely new ticket in the new calendar-based system” that gets completely re-priced for whatever the 10/18-10/23 range entails, likely leading to more per-ticket impact. I would be likewise interested in how they’ll handle this same question for someone that activates an MYW Base ticket before 10/16, and asks to upgrade to PH after the switchover.


Any thoughts on what to expect? And to confirm, with hard tickets linked in, there is no way for me to make this decision early and upgrade to PH at today’s rates before our trip?

 

[Robo]

We arrive in a few weeks on 10/18. Originally, we purchased 6 Day Base tickets (hard tickets from UCT, linked in), and planned to add MNSSHP tickets for 10/21 evening. After the number of reports of crowded parties this year, we’re rethinking the party and may want to instead add PH to change up some of our evening plans across the six days.
1. Does anyone expect that an upgrade to PH after the 10/16 switch would be treated as “just a PH upgrade”, allowing a typical PH add-on price for each ticket? I would be totally on board with this, even if we must accept any revisions to new PH incremental pricing (for example, $90/ticket)
2. What I wouldn’t want to happen is that the upgrade is viewed as an “entirely new ticket in the new calendar-based system” that gets completely re-priced for whatever the 10/18-10/23 range entails, likely leading to more per-ticket impact.
3. I would be likewise interested in how they’ll handle this same question for someone that activates an MYW Base ticket before 10/16, and asks to upgrade to PH after the switchover.


Any thoughts on what to expect? And to confirm, with hard tickets linked in, there is no way for me to make this decision early and upgrade to PH at today’s rates before our trip?

1. I'd say that traditional upgrading of tickets will remain.
But, the cost would very likely go up based on any new ticket price increases.
2. I would say that this WOULD happen, as that is basically what they do NOW (and have for years.)
In your example:
You HAVE "pre-10/16/18" 6-day Base tickets.
You would be upgrading TO "post 10/16/18" 6-day Hoppers tickets.
3. Same thing. Treat (and price) the upgrade as a "new current ticket."
But, as you say, we don't know.

 

[juliebelle]

Nobody can officially say if they'll be more or less but we don't believe prices will go down. Most are choosing to buy now. It's a guess on everyone's part.

Thank you so much!

 

[AngiTN]

Honestly, as long as schools keep cracking down on attendance, it is getting harder for anyone with kids in school to travel outside of school breaks. (I am a teacher and have even taken off/pulled my son out before, but now our district has tightened their attendance policies.) So, as long as people with school age children keep going to disney, there is not a surefire way to "better distribute attendance". Pricing can't force people to go during cheaper times if their children can't take the absences. I'd love to go in February or mid September, or some other non-school time, but it just isn't feasible anymore.

Yep. While we go without kids more than we go with when we do take her we can't go during the school year other than on a break. Our schools allow 4 days absent. Doesn't matter if it's excused or unexcused (that only impacts making up work vs. not getting to make it up) If you are out more than 4 days, even excused, you have to present the reason to the school board and they can choose to allow or deny the absence. If they don't allow it, you can fail the semester, or worse, parents are fined. While 4 days is still plenty, when you combine it with a holiday and weekend, it's too big a risk for me. We may need those days for an illness so can't use them for Disney. The most I've done is 1 day

A 3 day ticket if you are not staying onsite will need to be fully used in 5 calendar days.

A 3 day ticket that is purchased with say a 7 night Disney resort reservation will be valid from the day you arrive until the day you leave. Staying at a Disney resort overrides the 3 + 2 day window the ticket is valid.

Either way you will only be able to go to parks for 3 days but staying onsite will lengthen the number of days you have to use your ticket if it's longer than 5 days.

And even off site can pay to get the ticket extended. It's not like they are stuck with the 5 day limit.

 

[AngiTN]

Here is my bet...
(taking all action now in the aft portico of casino deck)
Nothing in the new structure will be cheaper than the current tickets.

I'll be curious to see if it's actually nothing, as in not one single ticket option ends up cheaper
I missed the report but our local news did a story and in the synopsis prior to airing it they mentioned that some may save money with it.
I can't imagine many will be cheaper that's for sure. And even if they are, it's not going to be drastically cheaper.
If you wanted to gamble one way or the other I'd say you'll stand to save a lot more than you'd overpay if you bought the tickets now, meaning the difference in the increases will be higher than any drops.