NEW GREAT SWAP/SMILEY DEBATE(former "Pop Will .... Fridges For Swap?" thread)

[lisadr]

I say lets not get off topic ! As a swapper I hope Disney doesn't stop our swaps. I always tip and had no problems picking up my swap items with LS. I did not ask for or get a receipt. Is this a new thing we are doing !That may be he problem asking them to find the swapitem and then make out a receipt . Just a thought!! I wont comment on the Nay sayers they have the right to their opinion. But this thread should stay on topic !!

I just found out about the receipt recently myself, as well as confirmation #s. Being new to this, it is quite the learning process -lol. Can you tell me your experience with your swap.

Another question-do the people in your swap have LS/BS bring and pick up the fridge? I had gone on the assumption it was a self serve. You go down and get it and you drop it off-unless you are unable to then get help-but of course then you should definitely tip. In fact I would tip LS person just for finding it in the back-if they are able to accept it. I could see a bellhop(if Pop even has them??) offering to help to try to get a tip, and if you don't feel like lugging it to your room-I say the tip is well worth it!

 

[disneychrista]

I get the public message board concept, but yet others don't get the idea of being OT. I am glad you feel so strongly you need to restate your opinion. Feel better?

Actually since we are still discussing fridge swaps this is still OT. If we started talking about say the MK need for a new parade, now that would be OT.

 

[sk!mom]

I say lets not get off topic ! As a swapper I hope Disney doesn't stop our swaps. I always tip and had no problems picking up my swap items with LS. I did not ask for or get a receipt. Is this a new thing we are doing !That may be he problem asking them to find the swapitem and then make out a receipt . Just a thought!! I wont comment on the Nay sayers they have the right to their opinion. But this thread should stay on topic !!

But see you are off topic according to the OP. She only wants responses from those who can address whether or not Disney has discontinued swaps so according to her you should not have posted unless you could answer that question.

OOps- I did it again!

 

[kaytieeldr]

"Folks are using them as a free storage site, and that's just not right."

"Plus you know have stoller swaps and who knows what else. It's really out of control"

"there was more 'other stuff' in there than luggage. I was quite ticked,"

"Swaps should not be part of Disney's responsibility."

I am noticing a bit of negativity in regards to swaps. As for myself-yes-I am guilty of responding to snarky remarks that are totally uncalled for.

I don't see a single bit of snark in any response quoted. Stretching the main topic, perhaps. Opinions, including those based on experience, sure. But snark? Not even close.

The original swap - the one two years ago, when somebody first CALLED Pop Century and was told it would not be a problem for them to hold the refrigerator for a short time between Guests - was undoubtedly expected by Pop to be a one-shot deal. They had no idea there would be somewhere in the vicinity of a couple of dozen (at peak) swaps going on.

HAS Disney banned this procedure, as of 1:19 AM EST Sunday, September 7, 2008? No public announcement as of this moment. WILL they? Very likely.

 

[KnowThySelf]

Being new and all, I want to make sure I got this right. People organize sharing items like a fridge to save $$. Now Disney might stop it because they don't want to hold stuff. And LisaDR is trying to find out about this. And some people don't like swaps.

Do I have it right?

I might be new but I gotta say y'all are some grouchy people-what you you care what other people do? Let 'em have their swaps and let Disney deal with it however they want-it's not your concern.

I also want to add that if this is how y'all "help" each other it's coming across pretty strange to me??

 

[lisadr]

Being new and all, I want to make sure I got this right. People organize sharing items like a fridge to save $$. Now Disney might stop it because they don't want to hold stuff. And LisaDR is trying to find out about this. And some people don't like swaps.

Do I have it right?

I might be new but I gotta say y'all are some grouchy people-what you you care what other people do? Let 'em have their swaps and let Disney deal with it however they want-it's not your concern.

I also want to add that if this is how y'all "help" each other it's coming across pretty strange to me??

Don't write of the DisBoards just yet. There are a LOT of really helpful, friendly people in here. I guess sometimes certain subjects just rile people up It's best to ignore them-no need to aggravate yourself. Sometimes I forget that but in the end it just feels better to let people rant and go about your business

WELCOME TO THE DIS BOARDS!!!!!!!!

 

[BostonRob]

Being new and all, I want to make sure I got this right. People organize sharing items like a fridge to save $$. Now Disney might stop it because they don't want to hold stuff. And LisaDR is trying to find out about this. And some people don't like swaps.

Do I have it right?

I might be new but I gotta say y'all are some grouchy people-what you you care what other people do? Let 'em have their swaps and let Disney deal with it however they want-it's not your concern.

I also want to add that if this is how y'all "help" each other it's coming across pretty strange to me??

There are plenty of people here that are very helpful but also have personalities and opinions. Good luck insulating yourself from other people's personalities and opinions anywhere - internet or real life.

 

[aprilgail2]

Remember too that until recently, not all rooms at WDW resorts had hairdryers, or irons/boards, which are pretty much standard in North American hotel rooms. And moderates only had coffee makers placed a few years ago, which are still not in value resorts.

Plus all those items add labour cost to clean and maintain, and of course we will be paying those costs in higher room rates.

Disney should just raise the rates on their value rooms by 10.00 a day and put fridges in- people would still pay the rates since it is cheaper than the moderates and they would have their fridge.

 

[disneyjunkie]

To the PPs' who misunderstood my question- I was asking other swap leaders and swap members what they had heard or their experiences. I was not asking for your personal opinion on whether or not Disney should allow it, whether you liked it, or any other personal opinions. If you don't have any info on, or have heard anything about what Pop plans to do in the future-kindly refrain from posting. It isn't helpful or the information I am seeking. I am not trying to be rude, but a personal opinion is not what I am looking for and it off topic.

Thank you very much

AND AGAIN-I did not post an thread asking DISers their opinion or to or not defend Disney-but if there is an interest- I could start a new thread-just for you BUT as for this thread, it is simply to see what other swap leaders have heard and how they were planning to go handle it-that's all.

Perhaps sleep in needed to focus better and stay on topic

Thank you again for your opinion

You don't have ownership of a thread. You don't get to control what is posted.

Er, actually I thought that Sandy, CarolA and I were having an interesting discussion about the cost of placing fridges in all the rooms and what it would mean in terms of room rates. I think that is a positive discussion as it would remove the need for these type of swaps.

I'm finding the discussion very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post.

I know it has been asked for before...
But if we had a swap board just for swaps...
It would make it easier and it would also please
the anti-swapper people who are tired of looking at us...

That won't solve anything. DISers are free to post to any thread/board on the DIS. The only requirement is that they adhere to board guidelines.

 

[NYPDwife]

What, IMHO, swappers don't seem to understand is that everytime you join up to share a fridge, photopass CD's, coffee makers, etc. You make prices go up for the rest of us who pay up front. And that's not fair! You spend thousands on a trip, just pay the fridge fee!

 

[kadesha]

That won't solve anything. DISers are free to post to any thread/board on the DIS. The only requirement is that they adhere to board guidelines.

True. There will always be some people who have nothing better to do than sticking their noses in something that isn't even their business to cause problems for others and disrupt discussions that aren't even important to them.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Disney should just raise the rates on their value rooms by 10.00 a day and put fridges in- people would still pay the rates since it is cheaper than the moderates and they would have their fridge.

That would solve the problem.

Of course those of us who don't care about having a fridge will see the cost of our trips increase. Thanks swappers

 

[CookieGVB]

Just a question, since I'm curious...if you don't get a receipt from luggage claim service, how do you ever find the item again? I'm sure they have hundreds of items stored - how on earth would they find it if there's no numbering/receipt system to keep track of it?

 

[disneyjunkie]

True. There will always be some people who have nothing better to do than sticking their noses in something that isn't even their business to cause problems for others and disrupt discussions that aren't even important to them.

It is their business.

If Disney decides to increase prices to combat those who can't follow the rules, it will impact all of us.

 

[kadesha]

It is their business.

If Disney decides to increase prices to combat those who can't follow the rules, it will impact all of us.

The few fridge swaps going on isn't going to cause them to put fridges in all of the rooms. If they decide to do so, it'd be because they are catching up to the rest of the cheap motels in the world that already have them. I think it's about time they do that quite honestly.

Are swaps against any rules? Is there some rule that says you can't leave a package for someone at your resort?

 

[CarolA]

I know it has been asked for before...
But if we had a swap board just for swaps...
It would make it easier and it would also please
the anti-swapper people who are tired of looking at us...

My suggestion.

Those of you who want a swap board. Contact the mods/board owners and volunteer to pay for it.

Here's the deal. Every "sub board" etc adds more band width and has to be paid for. The DIS does this by sponsors (which I used to be, but am not anymore, it's just impossible to remove that old tag) and advertisers. I can't imagine finding an advertiser willing to pay for "sponsoring" a swap board unless it's a manufacturer of refrigerators!

What I am amazed at is the complaining on here that Disney should just provide fridges at the values? As I said before WHY? From a business point of view the hotel are full. They don't need to add things. Now if they did discontinue the swaps and you really meant what you say, you would move to an off site at comparable price that has fridges. But the truth is that even with the volume of swaps on here it's a drop in the bucket. Say 10 to 20 rooms MAX out of the thousands of value rooms.

As long as Disney can get the prices they want with the services they provide they see no reason to change. You are voting with your pocketbook.

 

[lisadr]

To the swappers, just a quick update, I called Pop this morning and they lovely woman I spoke to was very helpful.

Here's what she said:

1)She checked with her supervisor and the person above her supervisor and they said they had no problem with the swap. Actually she said it was a wonderful idea because they don't always have enough fridges and they have to make sure the people who need them for meds and such get them first. Also, they would rather people trade them off then buy them and leave them(although I would rather think that would work out in their favor-lol).

2) They will hold items for us, as long as it is marked. She also mentioned Housekeeping as the people to arrange that with. Maybe they have more room there???? In any case at least we don't have to worry about missing each other and not being able to do a face to face swap.

3) As far as policy against swaps-she checked, her boss checked, and another manager checked-as of right now they haven't heard anything at all about such policy coming into effect. Now we all know that anything could happen, but I think as long as we work hard to be very low impact about it, there would be no reason to stop.

My advice would be this-don't make a bother of yourself, take care of the people/services that help you, and make the employees of Pop experiences with us as pleasant as possible. I am very sure that for the majority, the people in the swaps are doing just that, and you cannot control the behavior of individuals, but perhaps adding a simple post on your thread reminding your swap members to be extra nice to the people in LS/Mousekeeping/BH/front desk(who ever they deal with) might go a long way. I am going to add that to my thread as part of the swappers responsibility, to ensure everyone gets to use the items.


LOL-who knew this was such a HOT topic

 

[NYPDwife]

That would solve the problem.

Of course those of us who don't care about having a fridge will see the cost of our trips increase. Thanks swappers[/QUOTE]

 

[kadesha]

That would solve the problem.

Of course those of us who don't care about having a fridge will see the cost of our trips increase. Thanks swappers[/QUOTE]

You can't be serious!! As it was pointed out earlier in the thread, there are 10-20 rooms that may be swapping out of THOUSANDS of value rooms! They aren't going to put fridges in the room because 10-20 swaps may be going on. Since when does Disney go out of their way to accomodate such a small number of people? If that's how it works, then LTT wouldn't be discontinuing their character meal, Adventurers Club wouldn't be closing etc.

 

[parkers*momma]

That would solve the problem.

Of course those of us who don't care about having a fridge will see the cost of our trips increase. Thanks swappers

Boy oh boy, that would simply be horrible...raising the rack rate of the rooms to benefit everyone with the use of a refridge in the room vs the typical raise the rates to line Disney's pocket.

Disney raises their rates all the time and yes, we grumble about it. But we continue to book our vacations and go to WDW. Wouldn't it be nice for them to raise the rates and give an amenity to the guest than just raise the rates for a better profit margin for themselves.

And yes, this is OT, but the OP was gracious enough to give up her stance and let it become a "let's pick this to death" thread. So with that being said, let me say this...

It would cost WDW significantly to put a refridge in...I agree with the poster who stated the $$ amount, but if WDW charges just $1 additional per night (as another poster stated) those refridge would be paid for by everyone and EVERYONE would have them for their use. Some pps' have sais that is what makes values-values and one of the difference in mod/deluxe. I've seen all the resorts. To me, the refridges aren't the difference. It's the size of the rooms, the decor, pools, shops, etc. is why you pay more at the mods/deluxe...not because you have a refridge in your room.

And let's face it, for those who complain about the swaps, if there was a refridge in your room compliments of wdw, you would use it. This is the BUDGET BOARD not the LET'S STICK IT TO WDW BOARD. We are trying to save money with the swaps. If you are there for two weeks and pay the $10 a day...you have just paid for that refridge for WDW. So the remaining 351 days @ $10 ($3510.00 minus electric) is pure profit for WDW. Why not try to save yourself a lil and HELP another Dis'er out and do the swap since this is a BUDGET BOARD and we are all about saving money.

What, those who thinks swaps are dishonest and putting the stick to WDW, have never used one thing from the budget board to save themselves a lil money while at wdw? Yes, I belong to a swap and I also have used many codes, gardengrocer, staples, hints and secrets share on these threads to save a lil while enjoying WDW. Have you? If you have, than I guess you are just as guilty as the rest of us. A wrong is a wrong no matter how big or lil it is, if you have used one bit of info to save yourself money at WDW then it could be classified as wrong as these swaps.

Swappers don't give their opinions on how you should spend your money, they don't ask for you to look for their fridge in luggage services, not tip you for bringing it to their room, picking it up, nor do they jump on your thread begging you for sympathy when a refridge can't be found. This tread was started, by a swapper, to figure out their next step with the refridges, that they OWN, incase Disney mandates this new rule.

This could have been a very benefical thread for everyone who CHOSES to participate in a swap instead it became a war zone for swappers and ANTI-swappers. How sad!