Naked as a Jay Bird!

[summerlandjeff]

It may have just been a case of culture. In most european countries nudity is common. America is in the minority on this issue. Women go topless to the beach most everwhere else but not here. And in Asian countries you always see small children nude. But for the record I prefer kids stay dressed.

We must have seen someone (woman) from Europe in TL last April then!

At the lockers a woman (maybe 30) opened the locker, took off her shirt (no bra, completely topless ) and proceeded to put on a bikini top! No big deal to her! Big deal to the dozen or so young men in the area ! She did it so matter-of-factly that DW and I just laughed it off and headed for the slides.........

 

[Going Broke]

What does a child predator have to do with it? I know most of my neices and nephews hated having their clothes on and would do that a lot at home. I think they tried when they were out a few times.

I think it's sad that parents now are conditioned to think there is a predator at every corner. I would have thought that would have been a kid being a kid and chuckle at it. It's sad that we have now sexualized children.

Just keep an eye on the kid.. isn't that the normal thing to do regardless????

Hopefully I have not repeated what anyone else has said--I didn't read through all the posts. I wonder if you are confusing sexualized children with modest children. I have three children and during their toddler years they ran naked around the house all the time. However, I hope you understand that a child predator does not usually stand out in a crowd. Therefore, wouldn't you be happier knowing that no one is using a camera to take a picture of your naked child for their sick pleasure? IMHO, better to be cautious.

 

[Taqwus]

We must have seen someone (woman) from Europe in TL last April then!

At the lockers a woman (maybe 30) opened the locker, took off her shirt (no bra, completely topless ) and proceeded to put on a bikini top! No big deal to her! Big deal to the dozen or so young men in the area ! She did it so matter-of-factly that DW and I just laughed it off and headed for the slides.........

She might have been from New York also
Up there it is legal for a woman to go topless also, check the news recently there was an incident about this

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Hopefully I have not repeated what anyone else has said--I didn't read through all the posts. I wonder if you are confusing sexualized children with modest children. I have three children and during their toddler years they ran naked around the house all the time. However, I hope you understand that a child predator does not usually stand out in a crowd. Therefore, wouldn't you be happier knowing that no one is using a camera to take a picture of your naked child for their sick pleasure? IMHO, better to be cautious.

I am so glad to hear that you are on the "minority side" (as I have called it)...your are correct....it IS better to be cautious because you never know who is taking a picture of your child in the "buff" when in the public eye....zoom lenses can do amazing things without the victim ever knowing what is happening...

 

[tinkerkel2u]

I had to laugh when I read this thread....the first thing I thought was "They must have been from Germany". I was stationed there with my ex-DH for three years. Imagine my suprise when I went to the local swimbadden (public swimming pool) to see a bunch of naked bodies.

When, I got pregnant and had to go to a GYN on "The Economy", which meant, off-post, non-military. The first appt, they told me to strip from the waist down. I looked for the sheet, and there was none. I guess in retrospect, you know they are gonna see everything when they look under the sheet anyway! Needless to say, from then on, I brought my own "cover up" for my appts.

Different cultures, different ways-of-life. Went on a mixed-tour too, and the bus stopped in the middle of nowhere. The men just stepped off the bus and lined up and started peeing in front of God and everyone. Talk about Cultural shock!

In spite of the differences, I LOVED LIVING IN GERMANY.

It must be wonderful to be so un-inhibited.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

I had to laugh when I read this thread....the first thing I thought was "They must have been from Germany". I was stationed there with my ex-DH for three years. Imagine my suprise when I went to the local swimbadden (public swimming pool) to see a bunch of naked bodies.

When, I got pregnant and had to go to a GYN on "The Economy", which meant, off-post, non-military. The first appt, they told me to strip from the waist down. I looked for the sheet, and there was none. I guess in retrospect, you know they are gonna see everything when they look under the sheet anyway! Needless to say, from then on, I brought my own "cover up" for my appts.

Different cultures, different ways-of-life. Went on a mixed-tour too, and the bus stopped in the middle of nowhere. The men just stepped off the bus and lined up and started peeing in front of God and everyone. Talk about Cultural shock!

In spite of the differences, I LOVED LIVING IN GERMANY.

It must be wonderful to be so un-inhibited.

Too funny!!! Now that would be true culture shock...I guess if it is socially acceptible, why not....I hope that you did not have children that you had to explain the cultural differences to....that could damage a child for life

 

[DiRTyBuNNy]

--Mr. DB

 

[mkycrzy1971]

--Mr. DB

Very cute and COMPLETELY acceptable...it is a pic that is one of those you put in the the scrapbook. And as I see, you were in the privacy of your residence (or perhaps a friend/family member's). Also, I love the caption....

 

[njchris]

Hopefully I have not repeated what anyone else has said--I didn't read through all the posts. I wonder if you are confusing sexualized children with modest children. I have three children and during their toddler years they ran naked around the house all the time. However, I hope you understand that a child predator does not usually stand out in a crowd. Therefore, wouldn't you be happier knowing that no one is using a camera to take a picture of your naked child for their sick pleasure? IMHO, better to be cautious.

I wouldn't be sitting worrying about pictures... I can't live being paranoid about everyone. That's just no way to live. Be diligent and watchful for anything inappropriate happening, but to assume people are doing that all over the place is just not healthy, IMHO. I'm sure there are predators that are just as happy to see a clothed kid... maybe we should just hide all our kids in a box so nobody can have bad/criminal/etc. thoughts about them.

I thought I had read how most of the people that do this to kids are people they already know... neighbors or even family members.

I think it's GOOD to be aware of your surroundings and who is talking to your child, but I don't see the good (to yourself) to be afraid and in a paranoid state that there's someone hiding in the corners taking pictures or having those thoughts at every turn.

I could have sworn I had read in a few places that there are less attacks on kids than there were 50+ years ago, but you wouldn't know it the way the media plays it up (for ratings).

 

[U2_rocks!]

Again..."twisting" words and taking this subject to a whole new level...to even say this is completely crazy!! This is not what the OP ment nor is it anywhere close to being true...

We weren't talking about the OP - we were simply debating what another poster had said.

 

[U2_rocks!]

Hey...what do you know....even those adults without children somehow realize that this in inappropriate....glad to hear you are on our side (the minority side, that is)...you will make a great parent someday...

There you go again. You cannot seriously deny that you've told every single person who has agreed with you what a great parent they are or will be ..... while your silence to those who don't speaks volumes! How one might feel about this issue alone does not determine whether you are a good or bad parent. There are far more important things.

 

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Very cute and COMPLETELY acceptable...it is a pic that is one of those you put in the the scrapbook. And as I see, you were in the privacy of your residence (or perhaps a friend/family member's). Also, I love the caption....

that one is actually not mine (my DD is only 9 days old)...it was just something I had come across on the interweb and put it away until I needed to post it up again...

--Mr. DB

 

[mkycrzy1971]

We weren't talking about the OP - we were simply debating what another poster had said.

I know which poster you were speaking about...sorry you misunderstood

 

[Halloweenqueen]

It might have been a cultural difference. Many children swim on beaches nude in many countries.

On the issue of peeing in public...I've been to China multiple times. Babies/toddlers are potty trained from birth. (diaper use is increasing though) Toddler children wear split pants with their hinnys showing in the dead of winter. When they have to go, they go...anywhere.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

There you go again. You cannot seriously deny that you've told every single person who has agreed with you what a great parent they are or will be ..... while your silence to those who don't speaks volumes! How one might feel about this issue alone does not determine whether you are a good or bad parent. There are far more important things.

Here I go again with what??? My opinion??? I did not imply nor say that if you do agree with me you are a bad parent...words are being "twisted" again...and no, there are not any more important things in my life than the safety of my children...sorry you do not agree

 

[mkycrzy1971]

that one is actually not mine (my DD is only 9 days old)...it was just something I had come across on the interweb and put it away until I needed to post it up again...

--Mr. DB

Yours or not...I think it is acceptable (with modesty--you cannot see any bottom parts)...

 

[U2_rocks!]

I know which poster you were speaking about...sorry you misunderstood

I didn't misunderstand anything - you were the one that mentioned the OP in your reply to me (not Freya, who the debate at that point was about), and accused me of twisting words etc. I was simply trying to explain what Freya likely meant by her post, since it didn't seem to me that it had been understood very well by those who were debating it. I certainly didn't "twist" anyone's words, unless that's what you call it when someone tries to be helpful and explain something.

 

[Freyja]

I think she said (as you have highlighted) "in front of potential perverts"....to me that equals PUBLIC

To me that equals anyone! Her dad, friends, uncles...

 

[mkycrzy1971]

I didn't misunderstand anything - you were the one that mentioned the OP in your reply to me (not Freya, who the debate at that point was about), and accused me of twisting words etc. I was simply trying to explain what Freya likely meant by her post, since it didn't seem to me that it had been understood very well by those who were debating it. I certainly didn't "twist" anyone's words, unless that's what you call it when someone tries to be helpful and explain something.

When I said OP I was refering to the OP to which the comment Freya was responding to.... MRNsMommy...excuse me for not making myself clear...

 

[Princess Stitch]

There you go again. You cannot seriously deny that you've told every single person who has agreed with you what a great parent they are or will be ..... while your silence to those who don't speaks volumes! How one might feel about this issue alone does not determine whether you are a good or bad parent. There are far more important things.

Yeah, I mean, thanks for the compliment, but I think for alot of parents this is the least of their problems! I was honestly just curious at what point the cut off comes where it's ok to be naked in public. Is it a certain age, or does it have to do with size? And then how to do explain to the child that all of a sudden they have to learn modesty.

BTW, very funny picture Mr.DB!