Naked as a Jay Bird!

[MRNsMommy]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1490878&referrerid=&highlight=site:disboards.com

 

[U2_rocks!]

Because you have completely misunderstood everything I have said. I would not let my daughter play naked in a fountain, but not because I'm freaked out about the infinitesimal chance of a pervert taking her picture. She stays dressed because it is inappropriate for a child that age to be naked in our society. I just think its kind of weird that you're making a federal case out of it. There are so many things in this world to be truly afraid of. Why make this a priority. If someone lets their 4 year old play naked in a fountain, its inappropriate, but isn't exactly dangerous.

THANK YOU! This is all I've been trying to get at. Naked photos of kids being looked at and distributed inappropriately is "icky", and there's a tiny chance that there is some emotional harm that will be done somewhere down the line. But calling it "dangerous" and speaking about it like it's a SAFETY issue is just over the top, IMO.

My kids don't play naked in public because I'm a conformist. I have wished once or twice, for a fleeting moment, that I could have stripped them, because it would have been very convenient - but I didn't because I knew I'd shock people. Some pedophile with a camera lurking nearby was honestly the furthest thing from that mind at those moments.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Actually, I don't know about your particular dad, friends, uncles...but I don't consider mine to be predators. Again, I KNOW it would be naive to think it could never happen to my child (even in my home)...but I do consider my home to be a safe place for now, and if I were to ever suspect any of my family/friends of any sort of wrong-doing towards my child, then they wouldn't be allowed in my house or around my child.
Do I sit and worry all day long about pedophiles taking pictures of my child (naked or not)? NO! But again...I'm not going to let them get off on seeing my child naked either.
TBH, if this had happened to us, and my DD had been the one that stripped down at a fountain. I probably wouldn't have even had time to think about a pedophile being able to snap a picture of her naked. I probably would've been too busy trying to get her clothes back on...simply b/c I think it's inappropriate for a 4-year-old to be running around naked in public. period! But the reason all this got brought up, by me at least, is b/c one poster on the first or second page, asked what pedophiles even have to do w/ the topic. And, like it or not, pedophiles ARE an issue!

And for the record...I, personally, do not think anyone is a bad parent just b/c they disagree w/ me on one issue. The one piece of advice my mom has given me about parenting, that will always stick w/ me, is to NEVER say never when it comes to something your child will do/or that can be done to your child. No matter how much we try to protect our children, something can always happen...I'm just trying to do the best I can!

I agree with EVERYTHING you have said in this post...you have done a great job of explaining exactly what I have been trying to say all along...for some reason, I can not get through to a few that it is inappropriate...period in the US no matter how acceptable it may be elsewhere in the world....also, I have never said anything about anyone being a "bad" parent...even though it has been said I did...(I am not implying you said this though)...again...well said!! I commend you for your choice of words...

 

[mkycrzy1971]

I think my main point is that you cannot worry every possible thing that could possibly happen. You will drive yourself crazy. I do not sit around worrying about this, but it does cross my mind when seeing a nude child in public...mine or others Its important to take every reasonable precaution, but you can't live your life terrified that there is a predator around every corner. I do not do this either...I am just cautiousIf you don't feel comfortable letting your young child be naked in public, then by all means don't let him. No one is saying you should. But you can't assume parents who do allow that are terrible parents. They are just culturally different than you are. I do not think they are terrible parents (I never anywhere said that), I just think that they need to think about the possibilty...and as far as the cultural difference...they are in the US, it is OUR culture not to run around nude...they should respect that without any questions Yes, visitors should be aware of how things are done in this country, but no guidebook covers every possible contingency. This is not exactly a secret in our society

BTW, I do think that people who get off on looking at children who are clothed are just as sick as people who get off on seeing naked children. me too!!

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[Alesia]

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True. You did not come out and call anyone a terrible parent, but when you tell someone who agrees with you that they will make a wonderful parent (without knowing anything else about them,) it is sort of implied.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1490878&referrerid=&highlight=site:disboards.com

Very sad...and sick...hope he gets put away for life....

 

[mkycrzy1971]

True. You did not come out and call anyone a terrible parent, but when you tell someone who agrees with you that they will make a wonderful parent (without knowing anything else about them,) it is sort of implied.

I did not mean it in a negative way...I try to encourage all non-parents when they show responsiblity...thus encouraging them to continue to think things through when and if they do become parents...I think that MOST parents are wonderful parents in their own way...it really had nothing to do with the fact that that person agreed with me or not....I am sorry you misunderstand what I am trying to say...that is the bad part about email and message boards...it is hard to tell exactly how to perceive a person....with this being said, I do not feel I implied anyone is a bad parent in anyway...

 

[Alesia]

I did not mean it in a negative way...I try to encourage all non-parents when they show responsiblity...thus encouraging them to continue to think things through when and if they do become parents...I think that MOST parents are wonderful parents in their own way...it really had nothing to do with the fact that that person agreed with me or not....I am sorry you misunderstand what I am trying to say...that is the bad part about email and message boards...it is hard to tell exactly how to perceive a person....with this being said, I do not feel I implied anyone is a bad parent in anyway...

Apology accepted.

 

[Tink3Belle]

Kids love to run naked - but you usually see a parent running after them with their clothes. If no parents was behind them it is ashame their parents have no couth.

 

[trypnotic]

Downtown Disney, June 2006. Not my child.

 

[Alesia]

Downtown Disney, June 2006. Not my child.

Okay. That is seriously the funniest thing I have seen in a loooong time!

 

[MRNsMommy]

Downtown Disney, June 2006. Not my child.

I think we all needed that laugh!

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Downtown Disney, June 2006. Not my child.

Funny....but gross too!! At least he has on his underwear...and maybe a friend's too!!! I hope his friend is hiding in the restroom!!!

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Apology accepted.

Thank you....really, I am not a prude....just a concerned parent.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

I think we all needed that laugh!

me too!!!

 

[disneyfanUSA]

Last august we were at Epcot and there were 2 13ish girls walking around with no shirt. We saw them once then went on a couple of rides and about an hour later I saw them again. Their parents were just acting like it was completely normal.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

Last august we were at Epcot and there were 2 13ish girls walking around with no shirt. We saw them once then went on a couple of rides and about an hour later I saw them again. Their parents were just acting like it was completely normal.

OMG!!! I would "Kill" my 15 year old (before anything gets started...I don't literally mean this)...did no one say anything to them??? I cannot believe a CM would not get this situation under control....to see them more than once is totally bizarre!!!

 

[joy13]

Is it sanitary? Are the fountains treated with chemicals like swimming pools are? Some of the naked kids may not be potty trained.

Clothing doesn't stop pee - swim diapers don't stop pee - just keep poop in. I know that because my daughter peed right through a swim diaper once before I got her in the pool. So that's a problem - no matter what the kids are wearing.

As for the OP - I would never let my daughter do it, but if the Mom/Grandma didn't realize he had taken his clothes off or were from another country - I'll cut them some slack.

 

[Alesia]

OMG!!! I would "Kill" my 15 year old (before anything gets started...I don't literally mean this)...did no one say anything to them??? I cannot believe a CM would not get this situation under control....to see them more than once is totally bizarre!!!

OMG!!! We actually agree on something. Weird

 

[Going Broke]

I wouldn't be sitting worrying about pictures... I can't live being paranoid about everyone. That's just no way to live. Be diligent and watchful for anything inappropriate happening, but to assume people are doing that all over the place is just not healthy, IMHO. I'm sure there are predators that are just as happy to see a clothed kid... maybe we should just hide all our kids in a box so nobody can have bad/criminal/etc. thoughts about them.

I thought I had read how most of the people that do this to kids are people they already know... neighbors or even family members.

I think it's GOOD to be aware of your surroundings and who is talking to your child, but I don't see the good (to yourself) to be afraid and in a paranoid state that there's someone hiding in the corners taking pictures or having those thoughts at every turn.

I could have sworn I had read in a few places that there are less attacks on kids than there were 50+ years ago, but you wouldn't know it the way the media plays it up (for ratings).

In all fairness, lets agree to disagree. I cannot live paranoid about everyone either--I cannot control anyone else but I can control what my child does. Also, I don't have to be "afraid" to be protective. My family goes to Disney & has a wonderful time--clothed.