AnnaFloridaLover
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Now I do get PM's. But they generally are far from loving.
It's tough love.
Now I do get PM's. But they generally are far from loving.
You said you would not allow anyone to use those words in your home. I am interested in what you would say to an adult guest who used the word 'stupid' in your home. Would you stay "oh hell no you do not use that word in my house"? Are some words ok for the internet but not to be voiced in your home? Just wondering.
All those things are wrapped in the word love. But that does not mean I have to give them everything they want.Well for me it would be patience, understanding, kindness, teaching, acceptance, respect, forgiveness, leading by example, etc. Of course I'm not telling others to parent the way I do but for us it's definitely more than love and basic necessities.
"Be nice to your children for they will choose your rest home".
It's tough love.
Just to clarify, the "oh hell no" verbiage was my THOUGHT when my SIL told us to not look at my niece or talk to her when she brought her unpleasant self out for breakfast in the morning. It was not words used, by myself or my children.
Also, if an adult used words I detest, yes, I will tell them to not use those words in my home. I've never had anyone completely disregard or ignore the request to even worry about I would do if they continued. I have a strong feeling I wouldn't have an issue asking them to either find another word to use or to leave. Thankfully I have only had to tell my BIL to not use the word "retard" once, and he's never used it again in front of me. It's just one of those things that I personally don't tolerate. I think calling someone "stupid" or a "retard" is (in ANY situation) uncalled for, therefore I don't allow it to be used in my home. My house, my rules, period.
All those things are wrapped in the word love. But that does not mean I have to give them everything they want.
Well I hate the word "irregardless". It's almost always used improperly but I can't imagine telling my guests not to use it in my home. While I would never call someone those names you mentioned I will admit to freely using the term "stupid". Never as a name calling term. It seems that it is a word that is now banned by daycares and schools but was frequently used when I was growing up.
My point is we all have words we don't like or use but I can't imagine that if an adult guest in my house said "I had to take this stupid test" I would have the nerve to tell them they cannot use that word in my house or they have to leave. That, to me, feels like dictatorship.
Well I hate the word "irregardless". It's almost always used improperly but I can't imagine telling my guests not to use it in my home. While I would never call someone those names you mentioned I will admit to freely using the term "stupid". Never as a name calling term. It seems that it is a word that is now banned by daycares and schools but was frequently used when I was growing up.
My point is we all have words we don't like or use but I can't imagine that if an adult guest in my house said "I had to take this stupid test" I would have the nerve to tell them they cannot use that word in my house or they have to leave. That, to me, feels like dictatorship.
Well my kids are to young right now to use that phrase and have it be effective but I won't hesitate either when they are over 18. My kids know I am always willing to listen to negotiations but it doesn't mean I will change my mind either. Most of our house rules are based on Family First mentality. If you follow that simple rule, then most of my other rules are easyNot necessarily. I think in some cases parents use that phrase/attitude as a knee jerk reaction without consideration behind it. That's where it gets problematic. I've seen people who operate that way most of the time -- similar to the way some parents use television with small kids or a bottle to quiet very young ones. If it's not the norm in your house and you drop those words or attitude on your kids I think they sit up and take notice. (General you, not ELSA)
Maybe for you but not for all. I mean, I love my cat. Truly. She has shelter, food and love but I certainly didn't put the same time, money and effort into her as I did my kids.
OP - I'm with you, I think the phrase is used far to often, almost like a badge to prove that one is in charge of their children and guests regardless of the circumstances, like its something to be proud of.
I see it often on threads that have nothing to do with household members but also when discussing guests, in-laws and friends.
Sure, we have house rules and I joke that its a dictatorship not a democracy but in all actuality, there are few hard/fast/unbreakable rules. We discuss scenarios and then rule based on the discussion.
Our kids are welcome to come to us to discuss a rule and propose changes/modifications. The only rule is that Mom and Dad still have the final say AND that all proposals must be presented in a calm, respectful manner.
As for friends/guests - Well, I have a teen and therefore I have a house full of teens. The rules: Once I go to bed, no one leaves the interior of the house and they cannot allow someone to enter our home.
I may not like how they speak but other than outright profanity (which would get them the "Mom Glare") I would not correct a child in my home for saying something that I may not like while in most areas it is perfectly acceptable. When I was young, my mother did not allow us to say "Butt" and she enforced that to anyone who came in the door - well, not many wanted to hang at our house. IMO she could dictate what her own children could say but she really shouldn't extend that to guests.
My FIL says all kinds of inappropriate things, he is old and cranky, we roll our eyes and ignore. I would never dream of correcting him.
I saw the whole "your house your rules" comment the other day in the late arriving guest thread. Sure, its your home and you have every right to say "No, you cannot arrive at 3am". However, to me that is not a "my house my rules" type thing. Its just inconvenient and the OP didn't want to have to accommodate. No one needs to get obstinate and argumentative by declaring My House, My Rules when a simple, "No, I am sorry, that doesn't work for me", will suffice.
I wonder how many of the people who say they don't have house rules make their guests take their shoes off at the door?
This is why I am also very upfront with my kids about 'my mistakes' in life and growing up. Age appropriate of course.I'm really hesitant to even bring this up because I'm having an extremely difficult time dealing with it, but I feel like I need to say it in case it helps anybody even a little bit.
Please be sure you do what you can to get it into your kids' heads that they can talk to you about anything, especially anything they're struggling with. In a little less than 3 weeks time I've watched two families I know suffer horribly and wish upon wish that they could just have a conversation, no matter how ugly it might have been. Try to leave a little room for leniency on the blind obedience to the house rules if they will bring it to you for your help if they feel they have nowhere else to turn and cannot resolve the situation on their own.
This isn't in response to anyone and I'm not pecking apart anybody's parenting choices. It's just something I feel I have to say as a reminder so that as parents we don't get so carried away trying to keep our kids safe and on the straight and narrow that we don't unwittingly leave them thinking they've crossed a line that cannot be fixed and have nowhere to turn. It can make a huge difference if they understand that you won't be able to fix the problem either, but you will be there to love and support them always.