Math not adding up on new 4 for 3 deal....

[Luvamouse]

I now see the error of my way. Thank you all for straightening me out.

But were you able to get the right rate??

 

[Cruella 66]

I haven't read the whole thread but we just booked for the end of June with the buy 4 get 3 deal. Our package is a little over $3800.00. I went to the WDW site and they priced the same trip for $5120.37. Doing basic math, that's a $1, 313 savings!

 

[Luvamouse]

Was thinking of doing the new deal 4/3, but after reading this posts it makes me confused and wondering .
Could someone be so sweet to add this up for me
2 adults at value resort ....... March 15-22 ....7 day park hopper
no insurance,no dining

Thanks

Here's what to do...

Go to Disney.com and be sure to click the Buy 4, Get 3 FREE! box. Then you need to input your dates, resort, # people. After that you can make changes. Here it is: Pop Century Resort- Standard Room- 7 nights 3/15-3/22/2009, 7 day hoppers.

Regular=$1605.72

4/3 Deal =$1140.32

For a savings of $465.40.

 

[Luvamouse]

Was thinking of doing the new deal 4/3, but after reading this posts it makes me confused and wondering .
Could someone be so sweet to add this up for me
2 adults at value resort ....... March 15-22 ....7 day park hopper
no insurance,no dining

Thanks

Also, FWIW, you could do POR FQ for $1452.66 which is $312 more. It is still less than the rack rate for Pop.
AND I forgot to add that you should qualify for the $200 gift card given your stay dates.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

Has anyone actually done the math on this new deal and found a discrepancy?

We have the Polynesian, Garden View booked from March 4-11 (Wed-Wed) for 3 adults, with 7 day park hoppers (no other add ons) and the total comes to $3242.44 on Disney.com. I have the reservation made already and put the deposit down.

HOWEVER, if I break down the package components seperately on Disney.com, here is what I get:

Tickets:

4 DAY Park Hopper for 3 adults: $807 total
4 Nights at Polynesian, Garden View (I put in weekend dates, since we will be going during Peak Season, and weekend rates apply, so I wanted to make sure I accounted for that increase in rate): $2340 total

TOTAL Price when you add the 4 nights at Poly to the 4 day park hopper, remembering that the additional 3 nights and 3 days of the ticket are "supposedly" free: $3,147.00

Original Package Price quoted: $3242.22
Same components broken down: $3147.00
Difference: $95.22 OVERCHARGE on package.

What gives? Should I call?

It appears that it may be charging you the weekend rate for all 4 nights.

RESORT
$505 + $25 extra adult fee = $530
$530 X 4 X 1.125 (resort tax) = $2385

PASSES
7 day Park Hopper w/ discount & taxes = $286 X 3 = $858

$2385 + $858 = $3243...which is mere cents off your quoted price of $3242.22

**edited to add**

Trip insurance adds $200.85 to the package that is already included in the quoted price!

 

[brergnat]

It appears that it may be charging you the weekend rate for all 4 nights.

RESORT
$505 + $25 extra adult fee = $530
$530 X 4 X 1.125 (resort tax) = $2385

PASSES
7 day Park Hopper w/ discount & taxes = $286 X 3 = $858

$2385 + $858 = $3243...which is mere cents off your quoted price of $3242.22

**edited to add**

Trip insurance adds $200.85 to the package that is already included in the quoted price!

Yeah, that's what I think too. Are they justified in doing this, is what I want to know.

I declined the trip insurance.

And, just for reference, if I go in and price a 4 day package with 4 day park hoppers, with the same travel party (3 adults) at the same resort (Poly Garden View) for the dates of March 4-8, which also includes 2 weekend dates, the price that comes up for THAT package (not part of the 4+3 deal) is $3202.92, so it's off by almost exactly $40, which is an additional 20 per night, which is basically the difference between the regular and weekend rate...

 

[GSDRescuer]

I also get a $90 discrepancy:
When I run WL packages for 3 adults and 1 child age 4, I get a difference of @$90 more than if I run tickets for 4 days and room rate x 4 for the 3 adults (25 plus tax for extra adult considered in).
I am confused.
Example:
WL Woods figured separately
310 + 25= 335 x4= 1340
tax at 12.5%= 167
total room 1507

Tickets
3 adults (for 4 days) 233.24 x 3 = @700
1 child = 196
total tickets 896

Room and tickets should be 2403 for Woods view
WDW website says it is 2492

Difference is $89
I just can't figure this........

Can anyone help me?

 

[Luvamouse]

I also get a $90 discrepancy:
When I run WL packages for 3 adults and 1 child age 4, I get a difference of @$90 more than if I run tickets for 4 days and room rate x 4 for the 3 adults (25 plus tax for extra adult considered in).


Can anyone help me?

Are you sure you don't have insurance included? It's hard to run this for you without dates, but I'll guess based on the daily rate you gave...

 

[GSDRescuer]

Are you sure you don't have insurance included? It's hard to run this for you without dates, but I'll guess based on the daily rate you gave...

No, no insurance........Dates May 2-9

Thanks.

 

[Luvamouse]

I also get a $90 discrepancy:
When I run WL packages for 3 adults and 1 child age 4, I get a difference of @$90 more than if I run tickets for 4 days and room rate x 4 for the 3 adults (25 plus tax for extra adult considered in).
I am confused.
Example:
WL Woods figured separately
310 + 25= 335 x4= 1340
tax at 12.5%= 167
total room 1507

Tickets
3 adults (for 4 days) 233.24 x 3 = @700
1 child = 196
total tickets 896

Room and tickets should be 2403 for Woods view
WDW website says it is 2492

Difference is $89
I just can't figure this........

Can anyone help me?

Funny, I chose May 3-10!! The very first thing I noticed, when I put in your dates and it went through to the options is that the difference between a regular room and woods view is $89.88. So I am willing to bet it has something to do with that...

I do indeed get the same totals you do. It is $89.90 more. It is as if the website is charging you for the woods view rooms twice. In this case I would call as it is not as if you haven't already used Woods View pricing to start with. Let us know what happens when you call. Yeah, it's "only" $90, but that's a decent TS lunch for 4...

Also, a side note... I ran full price room only on WDW also. It gives a total of 7 nights at $335 for the same period, so that is right. But it doesn't match up with tax. It totals $2481. It should total i$2638.13. It is about $150 less... I know others mentioned a few ## issues on the site. Since this is less, I am not sure. I even tried not including the 3rd adult just in the tax part-- $310 x 1.125 THEN add in adult. Nope, still should be higher than the site gives. Yes, it includes tax. So yeah, I'd call CRO for a quote, having the correct number AND the incorrect one we both got off the WDW site in hand. Let us know !

 

[rt2dz]

I have definitely figured out they take the average rate of all your nights and give you three nights free of the average. I’m not sure how the tax figures in. So, if you have weekends or nights in a different season (or both) it can dramatically affect what you package price is. When I do it this way, no matter what resort or dates, I come pretty close to the quoted package rate. And I’m assuming that is the tax differences. Yes, I play with it a lot.

 

[brergnat]

I have definitely figured out they take the average rate of all your nights and give you three nights free of the average. I’m not sure how the tax figures in. So, if you have weekends or nights in a different season (or both) it can dramatically affect what you package price is. When I do it this way, no matter what resort or dates, I come pretty close to the quoted package rate. And I’m assuming that is the tax differences. Yes, I play with it a lot.

You know, I've tried doing it this way too, and it doesn't add up either. If I do it this way, the discrepancy is even bigger, to the tune of close to $65, instead of $42. I just really don't want to call CRO and be on hold (and pay long distance to boot!).

 

[huskies90]

You know, I've tried doing it this way too, and it doesn't add up either. If I do it this way, the discrepancy is even bigger, to the tune of close to $65, instead of $42. I just really don't want to call CRO and be on hold (and pay long distance to boot!).

Not sure why you guys are trying to "calculate" this. As someone stated earlier, just go to disney website and plug your EXACT info: dates, number of guests, resort, resort view and tickets. Get a total. Then go back to the home page click the 4 for 3 link and do the EXACT same thing. You have to check the radio buttons to make sure you have the exact same view and ticket options. Then compare. Bam! That IS your true savings no ifs ands or buts. I just did it for my President's week trip at POFQ $2507.99 to $1777.66 a savings of $730.33 before the $200 gift card.

 

[rt2dz]

Not sure why you guys are trying to "calculate" this. As someone stated earlier, just go to disney website and plug your EXACT info: dates, number of guests, resort, resort view and tickets. Get a total. Then go back to the home page click the 4 for 3 link and do the EXACT same thing. You have to check the radio buttons to make sure you have the exact same view and ticket options. Then compare. Bam! That IS your true savings no ifs ands or buts. I just did it for my President's week trip at POFQ $2507.99 to $1777.66 a savings of $730.33 before the $200 gift card.

The calculations are because the numbers aren't working out to be pay for 4 get 3 deal in the comparisons. In other words, if they check out what the cost for 4 days would be the same number doesn't come up with for the 7 days under the special offer link. The question is how it is calculated.

Also, in one posters case, they were saying the rates increased and the deal was really, really off. But that had to be a mistake because the rates they were saying they had prior to the date never existed. Oh well...

 

[brergnat]

Not sure why you guys are trying to "calculate" this. As someone stated earlier, just go to disney website and plug your EXACT info: dates, number of guests, resort, resort view and tickets. Get a total. Then go back to the home page click the 4 for 3 link and do the EXACT same thing. You have to check the radio buttons to make sure you have the exact same view and ticket options. Then compare. Bam! That IS your true savings no ifs ands or buts. I just did it for my President's week trip at POFQ $2507.99 to $1777.66 a savings of $730.33 before the $200 gift card.

As the poster above mentioned, the reason I began this post in the first place is because this "7 nights for the price of 4" deal is NOT working out to be that, at least in my case. I am not sure why, and I am trying to figure out how Disney is calculating my particular package, because they are charging MORE than they should be for 4 nights hotel plus 4 nights tickets. The overcharge is approximately $42, which may seem like not that much, but there shouldn't be an overcharge at ALL, and I just want to get to the bottom of it. No one can give me an answer.

I mean, I am still going on the trip, and for now at least, I am keeping the package as is, because there are three of us going, and divided by three, $42 is like $14 per person extra for the week, but the truth is, Disney is advertising one thing and then charging for something else. When I go in and pretend like I want to take a 4 night trip, and price a package for the same week, in the same resort, with the same number of guests, the package come up LESS than what I am paying for the "4 + 3 free" deal. There is something wrong.

 

[huskies90]

As the poster above mentioned, the reason I began this post in the first place is because this "7 nights for the price of 4" deal is NOT working out to be that, at least in my case. I am not sure why, and I am trying to figure out how Disney is calculating my particular package, because they are charging MORE than they should be for 4 nights hotel plus 4 nights tickets. The overcharge is approximately $42, which may seem like not that much, but there shouldn't be an overcharge at ALL, and I just want to get to the bottom of it. No one can give me an answer.

I mean, I am still going on the trip, and for now at least, I am keeping the package as is, because there are three of us going, and divided by three, $42 is like $14 per person extra for the week, but the truth is, Disney is advertising one thing and then charging for something else. When I go in and pretend like I want to take a 4 night trip, and price a package for the same week, in the same resort, with the same number of guests, the package come up LESS than what I am paying for the "4 + 3 free" deal. There is something wrong.

Got it. OK, yep I was not following your post. So I crunched your numbers with my method above and I priced each item separately. Without the 4/3 your package would be $4,952.91 and priced separately the package would be $4,949.21 package over charge of $3.70 and with the 4/3 the numbers are $3,242.22 and $3,180.04 thus a package overcharge of $62.18. Keep in mind this is making the assumption that the 4/3 deals uses the following calculation: add the the 7 day total, divide by 7 to get a daily average then mulitiplies by 4 to get the 4 days. Who knows if that calculation is correct.

And for the heck of it, I did the same thing with my package and got the following: Without 4/3 discount the package is $2,507.99 and priced out separately it is $2,503.39 so the package overcharges $4.60 and with the 4/3 package = $1,777.66 and priced separately $1,792.47 which is an UNDERCHARGE of $-14.81.

So what did I learn from this total waste of time??

First, there is definitely something weird about package calcs compared to components priced separately even without the 4/3 discount it doesn't tie out. Second, Are we sure we are calculationg the 7 day average then mulitiple 4 days correctly?? Who knows. And finally, based on my calculation, the 4/3 discount is saving you $1,710.66 so, I wouldn't sweat the $62.18 overcharge. It is not worth your time.

 

[Singinglizzie]

I had a similiar issue with my package. If I booked straight without the " promo it priced out at $1984 for 4 nights, dinning and Tix, but the package price was $2300? HuH? I kept being told the pricing was correct. Hello- where is the savings? I kept calling and kept being passed around, disconnected, etc. but kept calling back. Today, I did get several call backs from Guest Services. They told me there is something off with the pricing and that it will be taken care of, but that it would take some time to work with the process- whatever that means. Anyhow, I was told that Guest Services would contact me by Wed. of this week to resolve. I would recommend anyone else having this problem, call and continue to ask to speak to someone that can assist you. There is something wrong with their pricing model!!!

I Haven't heard back from Guest Services regarding this. Wondering if any one else called and heard something?

 

[Miffy]

As the poster above mentioned, the reason I began this post in the first place is because this "7 nights for the price of 4" deal is NOT working out to be that, at least in my case. I am not sure why, and I am trying to figure out how Disney is calculating my particular package, because they are charging MORE than they should be for 4 nights hotel plus 4 nights tickets. The overcharge is approximately $42, which may seem like not that much, but there shouldn't be an overcharge at ALL, and I just want to get to the bottom of it. No one can give me an answer.

I mean, I am still going on the trip, and for now at least, I am keeping the package as is, because there are three of us going, and divided by three, $42 is like $14 per person extra for the week, but the truth is, Disney is advertising one thing and then charging for something else. When I go in and pretend like I want to take a 4 night trip, and price a package for the same week, in the same resort, with the same number of guests, the package come up LESS than what I am paying for the "4 + 3 free" deal. There is something wrong.

I must first admit that for some reason I'm addicted to this thread, yet I'd never done the same calculations on the trip we're taking in January.

Finally, tonight, I was inspired to run the numbers...and wait'll you see the results. It's truly insane.

1) Rack rate, 4 nights, check-in January 20, 2009, for 2 adults at AKL, savanna view, 1-day base ticket (no hopping), nothing else. Total price: $1534.54.

I'd like to mention something I hadn't noticed before. There's a dagger (the printer's mark, not the weapon!) next to the price. On the bottom of the page, the dagger explains: "The price for this offer does not include vacation insurance. There is no tax on this package." There's no tax? I didn't know that.

2) B4G7 deal, same check-in day, same everything, including admission media. Total price? Drum roll please. Ready? $1534.48! It's 6 cents less than the rack rate!

IMO, they owe you $42.09 (the $.09 was calculated based on my deduction that each person gets an additional $.03 for booking the package).

No wonder this is driving you crazy. I hereby order the Disney gods to give you your $42.09. Now, if that would only work ...

 

[Miffy]

Apparently, I enjoy entertaining myself with numbers almost as much as I enjoy entertaining myself with Disney.

So I ran my vacation through the Disney site yet another way. This time, I looked for rack rate for 4 nights on the room in a room-only booking. The room costs $1372. It says that tax is included.

Then, for fun, I added the 1-day base passes. How's this for excitement? First, it tells me that the cost of the base passes will add $159.76 to the total price. So I hit "update." Guess what $1372 + $159.76 adds up to in Disneymath? If you guessed $1531.62, which is what it adds up to using standard arithmetic procedures, you'd be wrong, wrong wrong! In fact, it adds up to $1534.54, which somehow is miraculously the same price as the rack-rate package. This is $2.92 more than the numbers would indicate.

Ok, what the heck. $2.92. Who cares?

But wait. There's more!

Now I go back to see what happens if I remove the tickets and it's the oddest thing. The cost of the tickets is now listed--and listed in the exact same place that the $159.76 was previously listed--as $157.62! Yet even this added to $1372 adds up to $1534.54. Just amazing, especially now that it's $5.06 extra for Mickey.

I'm afraid to look at what the cost of a 1-day base ticket is, since I have to go to sleep soon. But if I do, I'll post back here.

 

[Miffy]

Well, I couldn't stand thinking about this anymore, so I looked up the cost of 2 1-day base passes. It's $159.76, which is a price that was actually presented as part of the room-only booking.

Nevertheless, $1372 + $159.76 does not add up to $1534.54. I mean, even if you can't add very well, you can see that the cents amount would have to be $.76! Perhaps Mickey's calculator is broken.

Perhaps when they say "magic," what they're referring to is how they're able to get somewhere between $2.92 and and $62.18 extra out of every package they book.