Mass Shooting at Orlando Club

Looks like some of the victims were 18-19 so that would explain the pediatric surgeons better.
Maybe, but 18-19 year olds really wouldn't be pedi patients unless they were really tiny -- although it might also depend on one particular patient's medical history. I know Nicklaus Children's Hospital here in Coral Gables (formerly Miami Childrens) still treats adult patients in their cardiac unit because they were pedi cardiac patients there as kids and everybody knows every iota of their condition.

But more likely, I think, is the pedi surgeon once worked in a trauma center with another of the trauma docs, they knew he or she was good, and they made the call. Orlando is not that large a city and the docs all know each other. Never a bad phone call in a situation like this.
 
Maybe, but 18-19 year olds really wouldn't be pedi patients unless they were really tiny -- although it might also depend on one particular patient's medical history. I know Nicklaus Children's Hospital here in Coral Gables (formerly Miami Childrens) still treats adult patients in their cardiac unit because they were pedi cardiac patients there as kids and everybody knows every iota of their condition.

But more likely, I think, is the pedi surgeon once worked in a trauma center with another of the trauma docs, they knew he or she was good, and they made the call. Orlando is not that large a city and the docs all know each other. Never a bad phone call in a situation like this.

I know that at ORMC, which has a pedi section, the pedi section sees the child until they are 21 (or can). Nemours is the same which is also a children's hospital.
 
Can we give the gun debate up now? This thread should be just for people to express their respects.
 
Ugh, Anderson Cooper is reading all the names of the victims and saying a little something about each of them. His voice is shaking and he's barely holding it together..
 

Orlando is not that large a city and the docs all know each other. Never a bad phone call in a situation like this.

In this regard I actually wondered early on just how overwhelming this must have been. I'm no expert on ER's but I'd assume 53 wounded individuals would overwhelm the resources of most hospitals multiple times over.
 
I know that at ORMC, which has a pedi section, the pedi section sees the child until they are 21 (or can). Nemours is the same which is also a children's hospital.
That makes sense too, especially since many of the patients were local residents. ORMC is THE big hospital (I was born there...thank you, thank you!) and some of them may have been former patients.

Like I said above, never a bad call during an event like this -- it's much better to have someone you might need standing by, than to have to frantically call them in a crisis situation later.
 
Looks like some of the victims were 18-19 so that would explain the pediatric surgeons better.

Perhaps.

I too noticed that some victims were under 21. Did this club have something like a "18 to party, 21 to drink policy"? In the clubs I've been to that have this policy, the under 21 crowd is segregated into a certain room or area with no bar.
 
Perhaps.

I too noticed that some victims were under 21. Did this club have something like a "18 to party, 21 to drink policy"? In the clubs I've been to that have this policy, the under 21 crowd is segregated into a certain room or area with no bar.

When I've gone to places like this anyone 21 and over wears a stamp or bracelet for drinkin purposes but everyone parties together.
 
In this regard I actually wondered early on just how overwhelming this must have been. I'm no expert on ER's but I'd assume 53 wounded individuals would overwhelm the resources of most hospitals multiple times over.
I'm not an expert in ED's either, but I don't think they were overwhelmed at all -- for several reasons.

For one thing, their tweets say the real emergency was actually easier to manage than some of their drills...which is exactly how drills should be. Second, this is not unknown territory for hospitals or EMS services -- we train for this stuff constantly and everybody knows what to do first, and second, and third, and ... Nobody needs to be told what to do -- they arrive, they look around, they jump in.

Another reason -- consider the environment of the event itself.

Initially, there were injured people outside the club -- probably the least injured who therefore were able to escape quickly. My expectation for those patients is that most of them would NOT have been shot, but injured during their escape -- lacerations, blunt trauma from being knocked down or stepped on, maybe some fractures, but nothing like the people who were shot.

As the event unfolded, additional people would have escaped or been found...and many of those would be severely injured, making it more difficult for them to get, or be brought, to care. All of those would be triaged, and as their number came up they would be transported to the most appropriate medical facility -- which often would not be the trauma center at ORMC.

And finally, it was not until three hours after the first shots that the SWAT team rescued another 30 people -- some of whom were undoubtedly injured. Then SWAT would have cleared and secured the building, probably discovering additional patients in the process.

So the patient flow would have been spread out over probably a 2 1/2 - 4 hour time period.

This horrific tragedy was very different from the Boston Marathon bombings, where the bombs went off literally right in front of dozens of first responders, with ambulances already parked right there, and within a few miles of a half a dozen world-class hospitals. Those hospitals got patients within a few minutes (thankfully!).

In this situation, arrivals at the hospitals were delayed by hours in some cases by the unsafe environment at the club.
 
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Listening to Anderson Cooper say the name and tell something about each person is heartbreaking. Honestly guys 49 people were killed and 53 wounded.

If you want to continue to fight about your politics around gun control start your own thread. This should honestly be about the victims and not the hate. People's children are dead and wounded. A mother, an 18 year old woman celebrating her graduation, people celebrating birthdays and weddings. This is not the place to bring more hate. Why can't you guys see that.

Also yes this is a discussion board but people use to have some class. The bodies are barely cold and you guys want to fight for and against guns instead of stoping to think about those lost. We use to bury out dead first and show them respect but now we are too busy adding more hate to the world.
 
Waiting on more sources. The daily news isn't the most reliable and does post things to stir the pot.
CNN just interviewed someone who had seen the shooter at this bar several times over the last three years. He had also been on a gay dating website. This was also in the CNN report.
 












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