Mass Shooting at Orlando Club

This article talks about some of the challenges that exist when people are brought into hospitals after a disaster, often without any identification.

"What is the priority?’’ asked Brenda Whelan, an intensive care nurse who has long worked with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. “We have to save the patient first, then work on IDing them. That causes stress to families.”

The first six victims were wheeled to emergency surgery; only one had been identified. One woman “was on the verge of death,’’ Conn said. “She had no blood pressure; she had lost all of her blood and was very critical. An extra couple of minutes and she wouldn’t have survived. She was lucky.’’

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifesty...hon-bombing/7fFWuivM3tTKbIFAyn1BIJ/story.html

The bombings brought forward a problem that has vexed trauma hospitals for years: the identification of victims.

Within minutes of the April 15 bombing, many patients arrived unconscious and without purses, wallets, or family members to identify them. An ambulance brought one woman to Massachusetts General Hospital with a handbag, but it wasn’t hers. It belonged to her best friend, who was killed on Boylston Street. Before the mixup was noticed, the family of the dead woman was told she was in a hospital bed.

There were challenges keeping patients straight at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, too. Staff assigned unidentified victims six-digit numbers, but they were confusing, and doctors and nurses had to continually double-check that imaging test results and medications were going to the correct patient. There were no mix-ups, said Dr. Eric Goralnick, medical director of emergency preparedness, but “we had some near misses.’’

Relatives and friends crowded waiting rooms, desperately searching for loved ones and pleading for any shred of information about their conditions. It didn’t help that siblings and spouses had been separated and that wounded parents and children, too, had been rushed to different hospitals.

A mother at Boston Medical Center, where her daughter-in-law was being treated, anxiously searched for her son. “The mother was very upset,” recalled Rebecca Blair, executive director of patient experience. “She was desperate.” Eventually, hospital president Kate Walsh called over to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and located the son.

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Here is another article that talks about what mass casualty emergency responses at hospitals are like:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-bostons-hospitals-were-ready
 
I'm aware of the universal donor types, but also know, they will call for specific types when running low.
 
Then we agree.
Nope. There are more guns than people in the United States. Australia's gun ban took 600,000 guns out or about 1/3 of the total guns. I doubt the US will ever be able to get rid of the 100,000,000 guns that would be comparable. Criminals and terrorists don't obey laws and will still have access to weapons illegally. The attacks will continue as long as the attacker is allowed to breath, it won't matter what's in the attackers hands.
 

Once again:

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I have deleted a number of posts.

Anyone who continues to argue or continue the gun debate will find they are no longer able to participate in this conversation.

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The more I read about this, the angrier I get. I just read an article on Fox that said this:

His father, Saddique Mateen, recalled a recent episode in which Omar Mateen became upset when he saw two men kissing in public while he was with his young child. But Saddique may have also contributed to Omar’s worldview. Born in Afghanistan, Saddique is an eccentric pro-Taliban activist who produced an online video critical of homosexuality just hours after Mateen’s attack.

Ummm I'm sorry, we know his father is an eccentric pro-Taliban supporter - WHY is he still in this country?? Or at the very least, why isn't he in jail?
 
The more I read about this, the angrier I get. I just read an article on Fox that said this:

His father, Saddique Mateen, recalled a recent episode in which Omar Mateen became upset when he saw two men kissing in public while he was with his young child. But Saddique may have also contributed to Omar’s worldview. Born in Afghanistan, Saddique is an eccentric pro-Taliban activist who produced an online video critical of homosexuality just hours after Mateen’s attack.

Ummm I'm sorry, we know his father is an eccentric pro-Taliban supporter - WHY is he still in this country?? Or at the very least, why isn't he in jail?

I wonder if there's a link to the video and to evidence of his being pro-Taliban. No offense, but I don't trust Fox News.
 
Ummm I'm sorry, we know his father is an eccentric pro-Taliban supporter - WHY is he still in this country?? Or at the very least, why isn't he in jail?

I have not checked the immigration status of the father, but I suspect he is in the country legally and entitled to all our wonderful freedoms. It is a slippery slope to want people in jail because of their beliefs.

All that being said, I totally sympathize with your feelings...
 
The more I read about this, the angrier I get. I just read an article on Fox that said this:

His father, Saddique Mateen, recalled a recent episode in which Omar Mateen became upset when he saw two men kissing in public while he was with his young child. But Saddique may have also contributed to Omar’s worldview. Born in Afghanistan, Saddique is an eccentric pro-Taliban activist who produced an online video critical of homosexuality just hours after Mateen’s attack.

Ummm I'm sorry, we know his father is an eccentric pro-Taliban supporter - WHY is he still in this country?? Or at the very least, why isn't he in jail?
Watch this: Ummm I'm sorry, we know his father is an eccentric KKK supporter- WHY is he still in this country?? Or at the very least, why isn't he in jail.
See what I did there? Because its not illegal to be stupid and believe incorrect thoughts. It is illegal to harm others. It's also not illegal to buy an assault riffle. We can ask a ton of "why's" but bottom line is, we know why and we do nothing about it, and if 6 year olds being shot in their school didn't make us stop and really, really call for a change, i'm sad to say and believe, nothing can.
 
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I have not checked the immigration status of the father, but I suspect he is in the country legally and entitled to all our wonderful freedoms. It is a slippery slope to want people in jail because of their beliefs.

All that being said, I totally sympathize with your feelings...

I agree its a slippery slope for putting someone in jail because of their beliefs, but I hope we don't turn around tomorrow and see the maniac father do something similar. It would appear he has the same red flags as his son.
 
I don't believe for one second the family of this monster didn't know his radical beliefs..Its sad but because of our freedom things like this will continue to happen..
 
Jonathan Antonio Camuy Vega, 24
Jean C. Nieves Rodriguez, 27
Rodolfo Ayala-Ayala, 33
Brenda Lee Marquez McCool, 49
Yilmary Rodriguez Sullivan, 24
Christopher Andrew Leinonen, 32
Angel L. Candelario-Padro, 28
Frank Hernandez, 27
Paul Terrell Henry, 41
Antonio Davon Brown, 29
Christopher Joseph Sanfeliz, 24

May you rest in peace and prayers to your loved ones.
 
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