Marriage Issues

In defense of the previous poster - I see 3 kids? And one of them is 1 year old - so the OP knew she was having problems in her marriage and brought another child into the mix,

Ok, we can set the record straight on this. I had DS, planned. I had second DS at the urging of DH because he came from a large family and said that children need siblings. After that I was done and had an IUD put in. The IUD failed and I was unexpectedly pregnant with DD (child 3). After that DH finally agreed to a vasectomy so there will be no more kids :)
 
In a marriage, everyone has to bend, and sometimes it seems (and may be the actual case) that some have to bend more than others, but if you want your marriage to work, that may be what has to happen. Ideally, your DH will see you being willing to bend and he will stand a little straighter in your defense.

I think this is really sound advice. I married young - 20 - and we had our first child at 21. I'm 31 now and we have 3 children together. It's been a very difficult adjustment over the years and I think we all still have our moments. My family is very hands off, not really very involved, while my Husband's family is involved almost to the point of over bearing and pushy at times. I have done a LOT of bending, and have even felt like a bit of a door mat...however, I think it has been for the good of my famly and my children. I have taught them to accept their family, flaws and all. Of course there is a point where I draw the line, but I have to often look at the bigger picture first, and decide if it's worth it. I pick and choose my battles carefully, and even though I'm not always treated with the respect I think I deserve, I let it go unless it's something that really needs to be addressed. Like badmouthing me in front of the children - that is not ok. I would have gone to the party, personally, even though you were probably in the right. However, I would NOT tolerate talking badly about me in front of my kids. Say what you will when I'm not around, but leave my children out of it. That in my opinion needs to be addressed, and if Husband won't do it, you might have to. Maybe you could pull whoever is talking aside, in a polite way, and say something like, "I know that we've had our issues, but please don't bring it up in front of my children. I would really like to set some time aside just you and I and talk so we can move forward and enjoy spending time together as a family". If I have learned anything in life, other people may not like or accept me but you do have the right to lay down ground rules and it's very possible to do it in a nonconfrontational, nonagressive manner.

Drinking in front of the children is another issue in my personal opinion. I don't like drinking in front of kids, at all, but my Husband's family are big drinkers so I do make exceptions. The children are aware of my feelings on the issue, but we don't make it a big deal in social situations, we just talk about it in private. Often at birthday parties the men will have beer, and even though I don't care for it, they have always been pretty discreet about it. However, if things start to feel like a frat party, and it's happened in the past, the kids are immediately removed from the situation and I politely let them know that it's time for us to go, they can continue on with the adult fun guilt free without the presence of children. It might take a LOT of restraint on your part but I would try with all my might to remain calm, respectful even if they are not being that way to you, and just don't give them any fuel to add to their fire. If DH's family is they type that just create drama out of thin air, and believe me we have those in our family too, I literally do the bare minimum to keep the family afloat! LOL* Attend parties, be polite, leave, and we pretty much don't speak until the next big holiday or family event. I come from a family with many feuds and broken connections, so it's EXTREMELY important for me to maintain as much of a relationship with the family for my children as I can, as long as the relationship is healthy and appropriate for the children. It sounds like you need to make that call for yourself. Moving away may be a great thing for your family, and maybe the distance will mend some of those hurt feelings and a little time away will improve the quality of your time together.


These types of inherent issues just do not change or go away.

I also really agree with this - but you know what? Whoever said you didn't marry your in-laws...I'm so sorry, but in my opinion you absolutely DID! Especially if he is very close with his family, as my Husband is with his. Merging families was probably the biggest strain and the most difficult thing we experienced in our marriage...and you cannot always inspire change in other people...but you CAN change how you react to them...and sometimes that can make a HUGE difference in the quality of your relationships with them. **hugs**

In defense of the previous poster - I see 3 kids? And one of them is 1 year old - so the OP knew she was having problems in her marriage and brought another child into the mix,

It's really easy to judge other people for things like this. The reality is, she has the third child. Does it help the current situation to call it out as a fault? No. It doesn't. With all due respect, while we all are entitled to our opinion, a negative one doesn't help the OP or the child. The last thing she needs to do is regret a decision she can do nothing about, and from the posts here sounds as if OP is a pretty caring and involved parent. I would focus on the things she CAN change to create a better situation from here on out.
 
Also, I have gone to counseling in the past. I didn't feel DH was supportive of the counseling. He seemed put out about watching the kids and would throw them on me as soon as I walked in the door...like I was out having fun going to therapy...but whatever.

I went on a couple different meds. I liked the zoloft best, it really deadened me...I couldn't even cry. But when it went generic, I noticed a difference in the way it worked and it just wasn't beneficial anymore. I then tried prozac and that made me manic to the point where I felt I was going to rip my skin off...they then wanted to put me on a downer mixed with the prozac...I'm going through all this while being responsible for my kids because DH couldn't get extra time off from work and my mom also works a mid shift and won't help me in the mornings because she's getting ready for work and doesn't want to come in the evening because she's too tired.

It's very unnerving to have stuff like that messing with your head, so I simply gave up. I don't talk about my depression, I just tell myself nothing really matters and just try to let stuff roll. Most of the time I can suppress pretty well. I understand everything is a process and I'll admit that it's my shortcoming not finding a treatment that works.
 
It's very unnerving to have stuff like that messing with your head, so I simply gave up. I don't talk about my depression, I just tell myself nothing really matters and just try to let stuff roll. Most of the time I can suppress pretty well. I understand everything is a process and I'll admit that it's my shortcoming not finding a treatment that works.
Aw, sweetie {{hugs}}. It's not a shortcoming, it just didn't work out for you at the time. You can make it work now for yourself and your kids.
 

Also, I have gone to counseling in the past. I didn't feel DH was supportive of the counseling. He seemed put out about watching the kids and would throw them on me as soon as I walked in the door...like I was out having fun going to therapy...but whatever.

I went on a couple different meds. I liked the zoloft best, it really deadened me...I couldn't even cry. But when it went generic, I noticed a difference in the way it worked and it just wasn't beneficial anymore. I then tried prozac and that made me manic to the point where I felt I was going to rip my skin off...they then wanted to put me on a downer mixed with the prozac...I'm going through all this while being responsible for my kids because DH couldn't get extra time off from work and my mom also works a mid shift and won't help me in the mornings because she's getting ready for work and doesn't want to come in the evening because she's too tired.

It's very unnerving to have stuff like that messing with your head, so I simply gave up. I don't talk about my depression, I just tell myself nothing really matters and just try to let stuff roll. Most of the time I can suppress pretty well. I understand everything is a process and I'll admit that it's my shortcoming not finding a treatment that works.

I am really sorry to hear this. There are many people who just don't take mental illness seriously...and your Husband's reaction to watching the kids, in all honesty, while it can be terribly frustrating to us as wives, sounds like a very typical male reaction. My Husband is very much the same way - however, while sometimes those types of things frustrate me, he makes up for it in other areas where he is just absolutely thoughtful, caring, and considerate. He's not a woman, so he doesn't get all the emotional stress that is involved with caring for children...in my opinion that's why women are so good at being Mothers! Men just are made that way. After ten years I get that...and instead of focusing on what he doesn't do I try think about all the amazing things he DOES do. :) From all you posted it doesn't sound like Hubby is a terrible guy, just...kind of a typical nonconfrontational one.

Have you tried natural ways to beat the depression? I'm by no means a big "alternative" medicine person, but I really believe that a change in diet and lifestyle can make a HUGE difference. I would definitely never go with the advice of a stranger on the internet over a medical doctor's advice...but I would definitely explore other options and discuss it with your doctor. :)
 
I think you did the smartest thing you could do, at this point in time, by scheduling therapy/counseling.

Sounds like the biggest problem you have is the way your dh handles/interacts with his family.

He really should stick up for you, if he feels that you are not doing anything wrong. And even if he does think you are doing something wrong, then he needs to talk with you calmly and rationally, and the two of you figure out how is the best way to handle whatever is going on.

If he's not willing to work on things together with you, that's a problem.
 
jenrose66 said:
Also, I don't want to completely bag on my DH. He is a caring person...he spends a lot of time with his children (playing with them, but still). They are very close and they all love each other.

Me and DH have similar interests. When we are getting along we have lots to talk about and I do love him. I don't want to be a single mom. I don't want to fight over custody. I'm a child of divorce and I know how painful that is. I just have a hard time reconciling why he simply can't/won't stand up for me when it comes to his family.

Also, for the person who asked about alcoholism DH does not drink, however his grandfather was a bad alcoholic and I think that his dad and brother and sister come to think of it, do a fair amount of drinking also...to the point that I find it off putting...

I feel for you, as I have been in your exact situation with my DH and his family, right down to the alcohol abuse and DH not sticking up for me. We started marriage counseling and that's where we learned about codependency and how it screws up families. I learned that DH was incapable of standing up to his family for me and their dysfunction prohibited him from seeing how he kept putting them first.

Your DH sounds so much like how mine used to be. Through our marriage and individual counseling, he learned how to manage his family and put our kids and me first. I learned how to be patient with him and to not expect him to do things he doesn't have the tools to do. He has worked really hard to learn to deal with his family in a healthy way. I have stopped viewing his family as me versus them. Like many other PP, I strongly recommend counseling for you both, individual and marriage.

We also moved from MI to TX, mainly to get away from the toxicity of his family. It has been the best thing for us. We've been able to concentrate on us and our issues without the influence of his family. Being away from them has helped DH gain the confidence and strength to stand up to them. It sounds like it might be helpful for your family to do the same.

Good luck. Dealing with codependent, alcoholic families is not easy. There's a lot of support out there for you (Al Anon, counseling) where you might find others going through something similar. Best of luck to you!
 
I see a lot of red flags and similarities with some of my family's dynamics.

I have a SIL that sounds similar to the OP. slightly different circumstances, but same red flags. My SIL has threatened my DB with an ugly divorce and has basically tried to cut him off from his entire family. She also has a history of depression, anxiety and OCD. (maybe more) She has also threatened to keep HUD family away from their DD. My DB is also very passive and in my opinion just wants to keep the peace at home and gives in to all her demands. YET to hear her speak.... You would hear a tale of how my DB family doesn't respect her or treats her the way she thinks she deserves. She honestly thinks every little thing my family does is done to slight her. It is very hard to deal with on our end because NONE of us intentionally try to slight her. It is her perception and I believe her illnesses that make her behave this way. My DB is also the primary caregiver of their DD (she works nights) yet to hear her talk, he does nothing... I am also the biggest witch alive... My other DB's are a "bad influence" and my DM favors the other grandchildren more... DSIL actually tries to control all holidays and when things are not done as she wishes.... Yikes!

I'm not saying what the OP is saying isn't true. I'm saying there are two sides to a story usually and I agree with the idea if counseling. Just be open to the idea it may not be just HIS issues that need to be dealt with.
 
OP, have you thought about accupuncture as a method against anxiety and depression?
It sure has helped me a lot. I had 6 sessions in a short time period to begin with. A couple of months later, I had once again 6 sessions, one session a week.
Now, I only call for an appointment when I feel really really stressed out and think I'm going to rip my own head off. Which doesn't happen all too much anymore.

Maybe it's worth a try to look into that?
 
I also really agree with this - but you know what? Whoever said you didn't marry your in-laws...I'm so sorry, but in my opinion you absolutely DID! Especially if he is very close with his family, as my Husband is with his. Merging families was probably the biggest strain and the most difficult thing we experienced in our marriage...and you cannot always inspire change in other people...but you CAN change how you react to them...and sometimes that can make a HUGE difference in the quality of your relationships with them.

Ummmmmm, I will address this.... not to sidetrack this thread....

But, I am not quite sure what to make of that last sentence....

Seems to be assuming that I didn't bend over backwards for YEARS in my relationship with my DH's parents....

Seems to be assuming that I reacted negatively and inappropriately.... which is, obviously, not recommended.

I will choose not to take the above as a personal dig.

If one were to actually READ my posts, and the posts of a few others...
That is EXACTLY what we have been saying.

Almost verbatim.

No, "But you know what..." necessary.
 
I see a lot of red flags and similarities with some of my family's dynamics.

I have a SIL that sounds similar to the OP. slightly different circumstances, but same red flags. My SIL has threatened my DB with an ugly divorce and has basically tried to cut him off from his entire family. She also has a history of depression, anxiety and OCD. (maybe more) She has also threatened to keep HUD family away from their DD. My DB is also very passive and in my opinion just wants to keep the peace at home and gives in to all her demands. YET to hear her speak.... You would hear a tale of how my DB family doesn't respect her or treats her the way she thinks she deserves. She honestly thinks every little thing my family does is done to slight her. It is very hard to deal with on our end because NONE of us intentionally try to slight her. It is her perception and I believe her illnesses that make her behave this way. My DB is also the primary caregiver of their DD (she works nights) yet to hear her talk, he does nothing... I am also the biggest witch alive... My other DB's are a "bad influence" and my DM favors the other grandchildren more... DSIL actually tries to control all holidays and when things are not done as she wishes.... Yikes!

I'm not saying what the OP is saying isn't true. I'm saying there are two sides to a story usually and I agree with the idea if counseling. Just be open to the idea it may not be just HIS issues that need to be dealt with.

A great point about the other side of the story.
 
Also, I have gone to counseling in the past. I didn't feel DH was supportive of the counseling. He seemed put out about watching the kids and would throw them on me as soon as I walked in the door...like I was out having fun going to therapy...but whatever.

I went on a couple different meds. I liked the zoloft best, it really deadened me...I couldn't even cry. But when it went generic, I noticed a difference in the way it worked and it just wasn't beneficial anymore. I then tried prozac and that made me manic to the point where I felt I was going to rip my skin off...they then wanted to put me on a downer mixed with the prozac...I'm going through all this while being responsible for my kids because DH couldn't get extra time off from work and my mom also works a mid shift and won't help me in the mornings because she's getting ready for work and doesn't want to come in the evening because she's too tired.

It's very unnerving to have stuff like that messing with your head, so I simply gave up. I don't talk about my depression, I just tell myself nothing really matters and just try to let stuff roll. Most of the time I can suppress pretty well. I understand everything is a process and I'll admit that it's my shortcoming not finding a treatment that works.

There are a lot of medications out there, I wouldn't give up just because Zoloft and Prozac didn't work. I take medication for my anxiety and depression but I really feel CBT helps far more with the anxiety than the medication does. At least to get it to a manageable level. When you go to a therapist ask them what type of therapy they use and what it entails to try to find the best match. I hate talk therapy I think it makes me more anxious but I know it works well for some people. Don't be afraid to find a different therapist if you feel an approach won't work for you.
 
I see a lot of red flags and similarities with some of my family's dynamics.

I have a SIL that sounds similar to the OP. slightly different circumstances, but same red flags. My SIL has threatened my DB with an ugly divorce and has basically tried to cut him off from his entire family. She also has a history of depression, anxiety and OCD. (maybe more) She has also threatened to keep HUD family away from their DD. My DB is also very passive and in my opinion just wants to keep the peace at home and gives in to all her demands. YET to hear her speak.... You would hear a tale of how my DB family doesn't respect her or treats her the way she thinks she deserves. She honestly thinks every little thing my family does is done to slight her. It is very hard to deal with on our end because NONE of us intentionally try to slight her. It is her perception and I believe her illnesses that make her behave this way. My DB is also the primary caregiver of their DD (she works nights) yet to hear her talk, he does nothing... I am also the biggest witch alive... My other DB's are a "bad influence" and my DM favors the other grandchildren more... DSIL actually tries to control all holidays and when things are not done as she wishes.... Yikes!

I'm not saying what the OP is saying isn't true. I'm saying there are two sides to a story usually and I agree with the idea if counseling. Just be open to the idea it may not be just HIS issues that need to be dealt with.

I agree and exactly what I was thinking.

I also wonder if the OP has "her children" as she calls them 24 hours a day because she feels no one else can watch them correctly? Or if her DH just doesn't try anymore because whatever he did do wasn't good enough? I know someone just like this. No one else could even fold towels to please her so her family just gave up. yet she continued to complain that no one helped her- yet she didn't understand why.
 
I see a lot of red flags and similarities with some of my family's dynamics.

I have a SIL that sounds similar to the OP. slightly different circumstances, but same red flags. My SIL has threatened my DB with an ugly divorce and has basically tried to cut him off from his entire family. She also has a history of depression, anxiety and OCD. (maybe more) She has also threatened to keep HUD family away from their DD. My DB is also very passive and in my opinion just wants to keep the peace at home and gives in to all her demands. YET to hear her speak.... You would hear a tale of how my DB family doesn't respect her or treats her the way she thinks she deserves. She honestly thinks every little thing my family does is done to slight her. It is very hard to deal with on our end because NONE of us intentionally try to slight her. It is her perception and I believe her illnesses that make her behave this way. My DB is also the primary caregiver of their DD (she works nights) yet to hear her talk, he does nothing... I am also the biggest witch alive... My other DB's are a "bad influence" and my DM favors the other grandchildren more... DSIL actually tries to control all holidays and when things are not done as she wishes.... Yikes!

I'm not saying what the OP is saying isn't true. I'm saying there are two sides to a story usually and I agree with the idea if counseling. Just be open to the idea it may not be just HIS issues that need to be dealt with.

Given what has been presented this seems to be a plausible scenario.
 
Given what has been presented this seems to be a plausible scenario.

This was my first thought too. I also think OP needs to seek help somewhere, whether it be thru a Dr. or holistic treatment. She needs something to help her feel normal again before the relationship with her DH/in-laws can even be addressed.
 
I see a lot of red flags and similarities with some of my family's dynamics.

I have a SIL that sounds similar to the OP. slightly different circumstances, but same red flags. My SIL has threatened my DB with an ugly divorce and has basically tried to cut him off from his entire family. She also has a history of depression, anxiety and OCD. (maybe more) She has also threatened to keep HUD family away from their DD. My DB is also very passive and in my opinion just wants to keep the peace at home and gives in to all her demands. YET to hear her speak.... You would hear a tale of how my DB family doesn't respect her or treats her the way she thinks she deserves. She honestly thinks every little thing my family does is done to slight her. It is very hard to deal with on our end because NONE of us intentionally try to slight her. It is her perception and I believe her illnesses that make her behave this way. My DB is also the primary caregiver of their DD (she works nights) yet to hear her talk, he does nothing... I am also the biggest witch alive... My other DB's are a "bad influence" and my DM favors the other grandchildren more... DSIL actually tries to control all holidays and when things are not done as she wishes.... Yikes!

I'm not saying what the OP is saying isn't true. I'm saying there are two sides to a story usually and I agree with the idea if counseling. Just be open to the idea it may not be just HIS issues that need to be dealt with.

Nope, I have no problem talking to my in laws...that's why they hate me, because I speak my mind. They also don't like me because they feel like I made DH abandon his family because he left the family business...sorry, they did that to themselves by not paying him a fair wage and keeping good on the promises they made to him.

However, I've taken what I read here to heart. I will not put the party back on at my house. I'm just done for now...to me these people are toxic...however, I will call truce with DH about taking the kids to his dads this weekend...we can hash out the hurt feelings in counseling on Monday.

Also, I gladly accept help. I don't care how the beds are made, how the dishwasher is loaded or how the towels are folded...I do not nitpick.

I do have a problem with other people watching my kids, but I'm working on that. My inlaws have watched the kids, many times. My SIL used to spend a lot of time with the kids alone up until about 5 months ago...she started dating this new guy and her priorities changed...which is fine.
 
Also, I would much rather get along with my in laws. Who wants to fight all the time? I don't. I get along fine with my one brother in law. I also have no issues at all with DH's youngest sister. We talk all the time and she comes to visit often.
 
I have considered moving. With DH's job there are many places we can relocate since he's able to work from home. We are planning on moving next year anyway because we want to get the kids in a better school system, I am lobbying heavily for an out of state move. He doesn't want to move the kids away from family...However, I'm thinking if I refuse to back down with the bad treatment his family keeps giving me, knowing how much he hates confrontation, he just might find moving the more palatable option.

wow :scared1: bullying and manipulating your husband into doing what you want does not make for a healthy marriage.

I only read up to here but it sounds like both of you have some real issues. What strikes me the most is that you will spite your own child (cancel his birthday party with his relatives) because you do not like the people.

You also sound very jealous. For instance, you described the party your SIL threw for her boyfriend's daughter as "extravagant." That remark came across as the reason you chose to not go to the party; you were jealous that the family would attend the "elaborate" party of a non-family member the day before your child's party. I hope that is not the case, but it did come across as petty and jealous.

Sounds like counseling is definitely in order! You need it just as much as your husband, if not more. Please see a psychiatrist to help you with your illness. Finding the right medication sometimes takes time. And the meds will do no good without concurrent therapy. Once you are healthy yourself, then you can work on your marriage and your relationship with your in-laws. But you need to take care of yourself first :grouphug:

Good luck. I hope you work this out.
 
I would suggest:

1. An appointment with a psychiatrist to discuss changes to help your mood and anxiety. Given your stressful life, I wouldn't simply take meds, but would include yoga and/or meditation.

2. Individual counseling for you to help you sort things out and deal with the above issues.

3. Al-Anon for you and possibly your husband. It helps a person learn how to set boundaries with dysfunctional people, whether alcohol is involved or not.

4. Marriage counseling.


I would stop the threats of divorce. Either you want to work on your marriage or you don't, but the threats undermine the relationship and will negate anything you are working on in marriage counseling.

As far as Al-Anon, I was raised in a non-drinking household, but there were some dysfunctional ways of dealing with issues. Al-Anon helps learn healthier ways of handling ourselves and creating boundaries.

If you think divorce would mean your issues would stop, you are in for a surprise. Yes, you would have court-appointed time for yourself, however remember that your husband would likely have his family watching the children when he has visitation and you couldn't stop him unless there is a court order barring them from unsupervised time with the children. There is less control concerning the whereabouts of our children when parents are divorced. Right now having time to yourself might seem tempting, however when faced with it you may feel differently. My youngest is 12yo and that has been one of the hardest things about my divorce (and my divorce didn't happen until he was 10).

And that's just the tip of the divorce iceberg....it really is one of the most stressful events to occur in ones life. At least it was for me. Having said that, I should have done a lot of things differently, however the actual divorce wouldn't be one of them.

You are the only person who is responsible for your happiness. It isn't to say that you aren't dealing with a lot of stressful events and circumstances, but if you are expecting to have your husband, children, job, yada yada yada, make you happy, it is not likely to occur. In the last 5 years I have dealt with my own severe depression and anxiety, self-medicating with alcohol and pills, realizing I was gay, coming out of the closet (and it was a very large, walk-in closet :lmao:),12-step recovery program, marriage ending, and a total lifestyle change. Through it all, I would joke to others that I was the happiest depressed person they could ever meet. Not sure how I survived it all, but I did have to tell myself that I could get through anything for a 24 hour period and that things would get better. Everything passes, the good and the bad.

This is actually a really really great post. Far better than my middle of the night attempt.

Divorce is not a panacea. It will open up TONS of issues you have yet to even realize. You don't like them with his family now? What happens when it's his weekend and he leaves them overnight at his sister's or his parents and has a date? You get NO SAY. None.

I get the depression and anxiety thing and having been there I think your perceptions are skewed. My ex-H is from a family that seems similar to your inlaws. You take things as slights, as did I, when in reality they aren't thinking of you at all. They aren't slighting you, you aren't even entering their radar. They just don't think that way. Which is why they don't understand why you feel slighted.

I admit I don't understand why you didn't go to the party. The fact that your DS's party was the next day was a lame excuse. I totally get WHY you didn't want to go but that's different.

Yes, his family IS dysfunctional. But you also need to take care of you. Having you kids be your "entire life" isn't heathy either. Being a well balanced person is important so you can be a good mom, good partner, good friend, etc etc.

Sitting down with a therapist is a great start. Frankly I think you need 3...yours, his and marriage. But starting with one is a HUGE start and will help. This isn't going to magically fix itself. It's going to take both you and your DH to work hard and both want to fix it.

As for my divorce...my ex-H had a lot of other issues. He has zero coping skills when things get rough. He makes really bad choices, drinking (to excess - I'm ok with drinking, even in front of kids,) gambling (including taking on debt to gamble with,) affairs to make himself feel better when he is stressed. However, I am not 100% blameless. Had I fixed my issues, gotten my own life, etc etc. I think we would have been in a better place to fix OUR issues. It was easy for him to blame all our problems on ME to justify his bad behavior. 18 months later, I'm the one in the FAR better place because I've learned to fix my issues. He is still unhappy, in debt and on the fast track to a DUI. And I'm going to be ok.
 


Disney Vacation Planning. Free. Done for You.
Our Authorized Disney Vacation Planners are here to provide personalized, expert advice, answer every question, and uncover the best discounts. Let Dreams Unlimited Travel take care of all the details, so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy a stress-free vacation.
Start Your Disney Vacation
Disney EarMarked Producer






DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Add as a preferred source on Google

Back
Top Bottom