Looking for a Disney cop for a question

[joandegennaro]

From what I understood once the OP let his secret out was more about on Disney property...not specificly the parks but maybe the intent was to clarify once he and his family crossed under the Disney Welcome sign and he happened to have his weapon on him what the "rules" are. I would never expect to see a guest with a weapon in the parks, DH takes his pocket knife with him everywhere he goes with the exception of the theme parks. Does he miss having his knife in the park...yep and so do the kids its amazing the uses for that knife anything from cutting off tags to cutting up apples....but in the interest of safety he knows it isn't allowed.

 

[Dominus]

While I do completely understand the "right to bare arms" part of our legacy, I do not agree with people carrying weapons constantly. In the line of duty, yes. Using personal fire arms to protect themselves and their property, yes. To just carry them around in anticipation of something is , well, overboard and not at all what the law intended.

Honestly, in my mind, it is a sign of insecurity exhibited by the barer. I don't want to be in the same room with someone with a firearm. I don't feel safer, I feel less safe. I realize that it is a matter of personal standards, but even attempt to come into my house with a weapon and you will be asked to leave. I don't need any Rambo's in my life and it is not welcome. I did carry a weapon when I was in the military, but when my days work was done, it was no longer a part of my personality.

JMHO!

Wow, this thread will be short lived I suspect. The beauty of the CHL law is that with your firearm concealed, no one knows you have it. A person could be right beside you in line at Mickey D's with a firearm and you'd never know it. I always feel safer in public places that allow for chl holders to carry. If there is a bad guy in a public place of more than about 30 people, there's a very good chance one of them is armed. That's why the bad guys often target places like schools, places that are full of unarmed potential victims.

 

[Magicbus]

Has anyone noticed the tag under my avatar? KK stands for Krispy Kreme.
Anyway, I don't know why anyone would want to work security at WDW. It has to be one of the most boring jobs on property. You certainly don't have to have been in law enforcement because that's not what they do. I have no clue what they do besides pretend to look at IDs, wave you through the gates, and stand around. Anyone and everyone can be one. If you want to work at WDW, why not pick a fun job?

 

[nooneshome]

From WDW:

1. Head east on Center Dr toward Floridian Way

2. Turn right at Reams Rd

3. Turn left at County Rd 535/Winter Garden Vineland Rd

4. Turn right at Chase Rd/Lake Sawyer Dr

5. Turn left to stay on Chase Rd

6. Turn left at Main St

7. At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto E 6th Ave

8. Continue onto Conroy Windermere Rd

9. Continue onto Conroy Rd

10. Turn left at Millenia Blvd

Destination will be on the right

Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
4080 Millenia Boulevard, Orlando, FL 32839-2426‎



Sorry...Couldn't resist.

I peed my pants. I wish I had written that!!!!

 

[disney david]

What? I'm not sure from your post exactly who you are saying cannot be fired but if that is true of ANY law enforcement position, that is just wrong. There are times when people need to be fired. What kind of job would keep someone employed no matter what they did?

(and I wasn't going to post on this thread until I read that.....)



Oh, and on a separate subject, my understanding is that originally cop or copper was used in a derogatory way against police officers. Now I don't think it's considered a negative since the original intent is so far in the past.

I talking about federal jobs as long as they do not break the law they can't be fired. I am talking about the federal police they use for the va hospital my mother works as a nurse manager and nobone their can get fired since it a federal job and that the one vendor they love. They can force you to quit or if you do something that breaks the law and get arrested that another story but as long as you don't break the law you be fine. you can still be suspended but most of them are retired police from the local area so they just working thier for the federal vendors and pension so they don't care about their record.

 

[disney david]

SORRY...but that is simply not true..where my dh works they can be fired for any reason whenever they want! They do not have a union that protects them...they keep their job based on job performance and who they tick off that day!

Sorry I was talking about federal jobs the federal police atleast at the va can no be fired my mother works their in by as a nurse manager and you would he shocked at what the nurse do and get away with. The police work hard so they don't have anything to worry about but they can't be fired they had one police officer hold another empolye at gun point just to give her a ticket for talking on her cell phone in the parking lot. They complian and they was told they would by take the ticket away. It makes me feel better that the police are their so I don't have to worry snot her wary like I did when she worked for non gov hospital. I don't know where you dh works but I was saying that alll police can't be fired I should o nuclear that up. Local police I'd sheriff state troopers and so on can still be fired

 

[chartle]

Has anyone noticed the tag under my avatar? KK stands for Krispy Kreme.
Anyway, I don't know why anyone would want to work security at WDW. It has to be one of the most boring jobs on property. You certainly don't have to have been in law enforcement because that's not what they do. I have no clue what they do besides pretend to look at IDs, wave you through the gates, and stand around. Anyone and everyone can be one. If you want to work at WDW, why not pick a fun job?

I would think anyone who had LEO experience wouldn't be one of the the people you describe above unless that what they wanted to do. I work in IT and Graphics. I would love to retire and work at WDW doing pretty much anything.

I was there four years ago and watched an older gentlemen just cleaning the tables at Pizza Planet and talking to people. Right now as long as I was financially OK I would love a nice boring job at WDW.

As other have said "a boring day working at WDW is better than a day trying to figure out why our email server is down and no one can log in to the system"

Back to the original thought, any former LEO may work more behind the scenes or as plains clothes security not the Barney Fiefs you describe.

 

[Distopia]

While I do completely understand the "right to bare arms" part of our legacy, I do not agree with people carrying weapons constantly. In the line of duty, yes. Using personal fire arms to protect themselves and their property, yes. To just carry them around in anticipation of something is , well, overboard and not at all what the law intended.

Honestly, in my mind, it is a sign of insecurity exhibited by the barer. I don't want to be in the same room with someone with a firearm. I don't feel safer, I feel less safe. I realize that it is a matter of personal standards, but even attempt to come into my house with a weapon and you will be asked to leave. I don't need any Rambo's in my life and it is not welcome. I did carry a weapon when I was in the military, but when my days work was done, it was no longer a part of my personality.

JMHO!

"bare arms" is cracking me up! I'm picturing all Americans in mesh tank tops.

 

[Magicbus]

I would think anyone who had LEO experience wouldn't be one of the the people you describe above unless that what they wanted to do.

I would hope.

I was there four years ago and watched an older gentlemen just cleaning the tables at Pizza Planet and talking to people.

How long would you be content cleaning tables? Street sweeper, I think, might be better.

I work in IT and Graphics. I would love to retire and work at WDW doing pretty much anything.

But if you have a choice, and you would most times, why not pick something that might be fun instead of boring.

a boring day working at WDW is better than a day trying to figure out why our email server is down and no one can log in to the system.

Your not setting too high a bar.

Back to the original thought, any former LEO may work more behind the scenes or as plains clothes security not the Barney Fiefs you describe.

I know and talk to those guys and based on their responses, and because I know who they are, I see them working. Most of the time it's looking around, walking, and sitting. Not sure it's much better than the uniformed security. People's attitude do change when they're at WDW. Most of the stuff that goes on in the real world is reduced drastically at WDW. Some pick pocketing, shop lifting, but I guess people assume Mickey is all seeing so there is a lot less.

 

[SheriBerry]

I do not have a problem releasing my "secret" as I think it is information that would be readily available for anyone wanting to know. I do think it may result in an interesting debate. I just didn't want to say it if the OP wanted it to be discreet but I guess I just made an incorrect assumption on what he was asking.

What I was referring to was a Law Enforcement officer carrying their firearm on Disney property. While obviously I knew that there is a no weapons policy at Disney such policies exist everywhere but quite often it does not apply to LEO's. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act allows LEO's and even some retired LEO's to conceal carry a firearm throughout the country. This is a federal act/law and obviously would not always apply to private property but a lot of places will allow it and in fact welcome it. In the past I have contacted places before traveling to check on their rules and most of the time have been told it is fine as I think they like the idea of some extra "security". I will not name specific places that you can carry that you might not think you could but around a year ago I had just returned from a trip and saw on the news about a shooting that happened near a subway station, exactly 1 week almost to the minute from when I had been in that same exact spot. It is very common to see news about shootings in crowded places such as malls, parks (not Disney) and also not unusual to hear about and off duty officer being in the right spot at the right time to help.

I am kind of doubting that Disney welcomes LEO's with weapons and I can understand why and I'm not sure I would even take one there but you never know when and where something could happen. I carry almost anywhere I go and my main reason for doing so is to keep my family safe, once that is assured then I'll protect anyone else.

I'm not sure if your question was ever answered (I didn't go through all of the posts yet) but my FI is an LEO and the last time we were in Disney, we were told that he cannot carry in the park unless on official duty (not likely). However he does carry whenever we are walking around the resorts, DTD, etc. and he's never had a problem. I think this is because these areas are "open to the public" and do not require admission to enter. Hope this helps!

 

[disneymomma1978]

1) I'm not tracking a fugitive or anything of the sort.

bummer! this would've been cool to hear about!

 

[Victoriasmom98]

I do not have a problem releasing my "secret" as I think it is information that would be readily available for anyone wanting to know. I do think it may result in an interesting debate. I just didn't want to say it if the OP wanted it to be discreet but I guess I just made an incorrect assumption on what he was asking.

What I was referring to was a Law Enforcement officer carrying their firearm on Disney property. While obviously I knew that there is a no weapons policy at Disney such policies exist everywhere but quite often it does not apply to LEO's. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act allows LEO's and even some retired LEO's to conceal carry a firearm throughout the country. This is a federal act/law and obviously would not always apply to private property but a lot of places will allow it and in fact welcome it. In the past I have contacted places before traveling to check on their rules and most of the time have been told it is fine as I think they like the idea of some extra "security". I will not name specific places that you can carry that you might not think you could but around a year ago I had just returned from a trip and saw on the news about a shooting that happened near a subway station, exactly 1 week almost to the minute from when I had been in that same exact spot. It is very common to see news about shootings in crowded places such as malls, parks (not Disney) and also not unusual to hear about and off duty officer being in the right spot at the right time to help.

I am kind of doubting that Disney welcomes LEO's with weapons and I can understand why and I'm not sure I would even take one there but you never know when and where something could happen. I carry almost anywhere I go and my main reason for doing so is to keep my family safe, once that is assured then I'll protect anyone else.

As a fellow Mainer, I thank you for your service.

 

[Sassagoula Billy]

Guests getting smashed before 9 am + a loaded pistol? We got trouble, right here in River City.

 

[ClarabelleCowFan]

may or may not apply to your question, but just to clarify, Disney does not have a police force to speak of. Security hosts (official title at WDW) do not carry and do not have police powers (they are allowed to pull over speeders, but I believe that's the extent of it). When TWDC formed the RCID, the charter declined any sort of police force, so all police action is carried out by the sheriffs departments of Orange and Osceola counties.

While this is true about the RCID charter, WDW does employ undercover security that does carry or at least they did when I was a CM (late '80s/early '90s).

 

[cm8]

From WDW:

1. Head east on Center Dr toward Floridian Way

2. Turn right at Reams Rd

3. Turn left at County Rd 535/Winter Garden Vineland Rd

4. Turn right at Chase Rd/Lake Sawyer Dr

5. Turn left to stay on Chase Rd

6. Turn left at Main St

7. At the traffic circle, take the 1st exit onto E 6th Ave

8. Continue onto Conroy Windermere Rd

9. Continue onto Conroy Rd

10. Turn left at Millenia Blvd

Destination will be on the right

Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
4080 Millenia Boulevard, Orlando, FL 32839-2426‎



Sorry...Couldn't resist.

WORD!!! I love Krispy Kreme doughnuts!! Didn't know they had them at the world

 

[disney david]

Sorry Gave the same one as the other poster did

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Assuming County Mountie is correct, and I am sure he is, I wish to point out......just becuase you can do something........doesnt mean you should do it!

I am a sport shooter and a strong beleiver in the right to bear arms......but to just wear a consealed weapon becuse you can by law.......doesn't mean you should carry just becuase you can.....

I especailly think a crowded amusment park, where you are bouncing around in attractions and Roller coasters.is not the place!

And no one but LOE on duty will ever carry one on my property, unless I am aware of it and they have my permission. I would consider anyone coming on my propertyand not telling me they are carrying is a personel threat to my fmaily and my self.

I am sorry....but just becuase you are a off duty LOE or retired, in my mind doesnt mean you should carry .........just cause!

AKK

 

[Dominus]

Assuming County Mountie is correct, and I am sure he is, I wish to point out......just becuase you can do something........doesnt mean you should do it!

I am a sport shooter and a strong beleiver in the right to bear arms......but to just wear a consealed weapon becuse you can by law.......doesn't mean you should carry just becuase you can.....

I especailly think a crowded amusment park, where you are bouncing around in attractions and Roller coasters.is not the place!

And no one but LOE on duty will ever carry one on my property, unless I am aware of it and they have my permission. I would consider anyone coming on my propertyand not telling me they are carrying is a personel threat to my fmaily and my self.

I am sorry....but just becuase you are a off duty LOE or retired, in my mind doesnt mean you should carry .........just cause!

AKK

Not sure about the law wherever you live, but in Texas you have to post a specific sign that cites the law, in a certain font size, in eng. and span., at the entrance. Failure to do as prescribed by law is giving tacit approval for a licensee to carry on property. Outta sight, outta mind is the beauty of concealed carry. If someone feels so strongly against one's right to carry, the onus is on them to know the law and comply to the letter of it.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Here in CT.your not allowed to carry.end of that story........and you feel your need to carry a consealed weapon maybe instead of the law you may use some common sense and courtesy and not being it on private property with out permission

Like I siad before.........just becuase legally you can carry, doesn't mean you should.

AKK

 

[livie1205]

My dh HAS to carry when off duty unless at the beach or in a park...he does carry on wdw property just not in the parks.If he does NOT carry and is caught he will be in IA. It is the policy of his dept. not a ego thing.They use to give them a choice,2 years ago it was made a policy...he HATES having to always wear clothes to hide his firearm but hey thats life.We ALWAYS inform check in that he has a fire arm and that when we are in the parks it is put away in a safe location.WDW has never had a issue with it.He would never even WANT to carry in a park with all the rides and all that...