Laws regarding public breastfeeding

[aaarcher86]

I don't see the epidemic and always amazed that this tends to be usually observed by those who feel they can put parameters on their comfort.

Odd that we haven't noticed these shirtless public breastfeeding women.

Well, I gave two examples. And like I said, Ive maybe encountered a handful of breast feeding women in my lifetime aside from friends. AND I mentioned I think most aren't like my examples. Really looking for. Battle that isn't there aren't ya?

But you're right. I bet things like this never happen. What was that magazine with the breast feeding 5 year old standing on a chair? I've never seen that but I'm willing to bet it's out there.

 

[bcla]

Boy, you have a knack for twisting words.....no one here, me included, has said they are bothered by public breastfeeding....we are bothered by those that made a grand show of doing so. A little discretion is all that anyone has asked for...

Everyone has a different opinion of what a "grand show" is. That's why most public breastfeeding laws don't say anything about a requirement to be discreet. Many feel that even the least sign of a nipple showing or not covering is some sort of exhibitionism. It's rather difficult to legislate how offended one needs to be to cross a threshold, so many laws essentially attempt to allow certain activities without regard to anyone's personal offense.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I think discrimination is a bit strong here.

Me judging someone for utilizing their boob as their own personal Theraputty isn't discriminating against them. Telling them they can't do it would be.

I do find it a little ironic that everyone insists that people should have a little common courtesy for others in all aspects of life EXCEPT when it comes to breast feeding.

Breast feeding doesn't disgust me in the slightest. But someone flicking their orangutan nipples (which I can only assume we will now justify as meal prep) when I'm trying to eat my meal does. Feed your kid. No need to show boat it.

Dead...I'm dead.

 

[aaarcher86]

I must have missed that part in the article?

Uh no? When you quoted my reply in response to someone talking about MY experience with someone I figured you'd be working with the same information.

 

[aaarcher86]

So breastfeeding is tantamount to making out aggressively? Dry humping?

And you don't understand why folks would take exception with that?

And the difference? You compare it to sexual acts and foreplay. Yeah, I can see how they are one and the same.

Are you kidding? You have to be kidding. That's not even close to what I said.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I don't understand why people(not necessarily myself) can be so one sided. Courtesy goes both ways.
Breast feed however you see fit, but if you can't have courtesy for the people it may make uncomfortable(whatEVER their reason), then don't expect the same from them.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Uh no? When you quoted my reply in response to someone talking about MY experience with someone I figured you'd be working with the same information.

You are focusing on an anectdote comparing things to sexual display.

I was wondering if there was something exceptional regarding the specific case that started this conversation. It seems there isn't. But you can see why folks would be upset and shared two examples that were quite extreme as the reason for discretion. But you didn't define discretion . Perhaps you should. My apologies for not inquiring what your personal middle ground is.

So far in this thread we have:
Leave
Do it at home
Cover up (with what? How much?)

What is your vote?

 

[marmalade]

Uh no? When you quoted my reply in response to someone talking about MY experience with someone I figured you'd be working with the same information.

Sorry, I didn't see in the post I quoted or the one you were quoting that this was a personal experience you were speaking about.

 

[aaarcher86]

Sorry, I didn't see in the post I quoted or the one you were quoting that this was a personal experience you were speaking about.

No problem.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't understand why people(not necessarily myself) can be so one sided. Courtesy goes both ways.
Breast feed however you see fit, but if you can't have courtesy for the people it may make uncomfortable(whatEVER their reason), then don't expect the same from them.

Which them?
The ones who cannot know at all that a baby is being nourished.
The ones who are okay with a cover as long as it is HUGE.
The ones who are okay so long as they as they see no flesh.

Because there is a WIDE range of public expectations that make it difficult to determine which is better.

Should the moms publicly announce and ask? This way all bases are covered and folks can be so awesomely admiring of her courtesy and thoughtfulness that would have permitted them to suggest she go hide in a closet?

 

[aaarcher86]

You are focusing on an anectdote comparing things to sexual display.

I was wondering if there was something exceptional regarding the specific case that started this conversation. It seems there isn't. But you can see why folks would be upset and shared two examples that were quite extreme as the reason for discretion. But you didn't define discretion . Perhaps you should. My apologies for not inquiring what your personal middle ground is.

So far in this thread we have:
Leave
Do it at home
Cover up (with what? How much?)

What is your vote?

Well, someone asked me what I personally thought as discrete, so I gave them the only examples I have of the opposite. Because like I said, I'm pretty low on the totem pole when it comes to being offended (which is kind of a strong word for this).

I wouldn't fall in line with any of your options. I also don't know anyone that said to leave?

 

[marmalade]

I don't understand why people(not necessarily myself) can be so one sided. Courtesy goes both ways.
Breast feed however you see fit, but if you can't have courtesy for the people it may make uncomfortable(whatEVER their reason), then don't expect the same from them.

How does one know who they are going to offend. I might see a mother breastfeeding and glance over and then go about my daily business as if it is nothing, but another person might see the same person and take offense to it because the baby isn't covered up, or the mom is sitting at a table in the food court in the mall?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Are you kidding? You have to be kidding. That's not even close to what I said.

No, that is what you said. Eating faces and dry humping, right?

Is there an alternate definition?

 

[mindygirl5238]

There is no possible way not to flash someone, briefly or not, while breastfeeding without a cover in place to start, sorry. There is no reason anyone has to sit down in the middle of a public place to feed their child. Respect goes both ways and if you are eating at a restaurant and you know your child will probably be hungry during that time, ask for a booth so you can be discrete. I breastfed all of our children. I am not against breastfeeding in public, but I also don't think you need to flash everyone doing so. Yes, most people care discrete, but the ones that usually cause this kind of uproar are not and those are the ones people here are talking about.

For the couple at Mayo, when those 70 year olds were growing up, public nudity was not acceptable. Girls were not wearing skimpy bikinis on the beach. It's a comfort level. You can respect their modesty level as well.

ACTUALLY....http://www.buzzfeed.com/southerndis...that-normalize-breastfeeding-jlw6#.kkOKpZZJ4p
(You're right, skimpy bikinis were not, but breastfeeding was)

I always used a cover when BFing my girls in public, because I could. To say that a mother is being disrespectful because her baby won't is not cool. Let's say we are in a restaurant & you eat with your mouth full, talking the entire time & I just think that's incredibly rude manners, so I ask the manager to tell you to either put a blanket over your head, or take yourself to the bathroom...so you can sit on a toilet & eat your food. When you refuse, I just think that is so disrespectful. Stupid? Right. Ridiculous? Right. If I don't want to see your food in your mouth, then I should just stop staring at you & look the other way? Right.

As for the flashy feeders, I've encountered a few of those myself, & although that isn't necessarily what I would do in public, by the time they unbuttoned their shirt & latched their baby on, it was usually a matter of seconds & with the baby on I could see as much of her boob as I could if she was walking down the beach in a bikini top. Sometimes less. I live in a beach town & I've seen plenty more boob on a summer's day at the beach than I EVER have from a breastfeeding mother. Strange thing though...I've never heard anyone complain at a restaurant that they would like that 20 something girl to put another top on........hmmm...

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Which them?
The ones who cannot know at all that a baby is being nourished.
The ones who are okay with a cover as long as it is HUGE.
The ones who are okay so long as they as they see no flesh.

Because there is a WIDE range of public expectations that make it difficult to determine which is better.

Should the moms publicly announce and ask? This way all bases are covered and folks can be so awesomely admiring of her courtesy and thoughtfulness that would have permitted them to suggest she go hide in a closet?

Well I think even just on this thread alone there is a trend of what people are okay with. And I am not saying that's the way it should be but it is what it is.

I don't know why you're getting so offended. It's a discussion. Relax.

 

[disney4us2002]

So breastfeeding is tantamount to making out aggressively? Dry humping?

And you don't understand why folks would take exception with that?

Folks don't seem to be taking exception to that since she didn't say that in any fashion whatsoever. You are purposely baiting her for your own pleasure it seems. Obviously you are on the militant side of breastfeeding in public. I think IRL most people are in the "who gives a crap" camp. It doesn't affect me and I rarely notice. aaarcher was talking about a few odd exceptions who seemed to want to expose themselves. They do exist.

 

[aaarcher86]

Which them?
The ones who cannot know at all that a baby is being nourished.
The ones who are okay with a cover as long as it is HUGE.
The ones who are okay so long as they as they see no flesh.

Because there is a WIDE range of public expectations that make it difficult to determine which is better.

Should the moms publicly announce and ask? This way all bases are covered and folks can be so awesomely admiring of her courtesy and thoughtfulness that would have permitted them to suggest she go hide in a closet?

It always amuses me when people have to ask these kinds of things.

No, that is what you said. Eating faces and dry humping, right?

Is there an alternate definition?

Yes, in comparison to show boating your boobs. The EXTREME version of breastfeeding.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well I think even just on this thread alone there is a trend of what people are okay with. And I am not saying that's the way it should be but it is what it is.

I don't know why you're getting so offended. It's a discussion. Relax.

Yes, I agree. It is a discussion . I am not offended.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

And yes...There will ALWAYS be those people who take offense to anything regarding BFing in public. I'm not referring to the extremes. Just like women whipping out both boobs and letting it all hang out aren't the norm, I don't think people clutching their pearls over it are the norm either.

 

[aaarcher86]

ACTUALLY....http://www.buzzfeed.com/southerndis...that-normalize-breastfeeding-jlw6#.kkOKpZZJ4p
(You're right, skimpy bikinis were not, but breastfeeding was)

I always used a cover when BFing my girls in public, because I could. To say that a mother is being disrespectful because her baby won't is not cool. Let's say we are in a restaurant & you eat with your mouth full, talking the entire time & I just think that's incredibly rude manners, so I ask the manager to tell you to either put a blanket over your head, or take yourself to the bathroom...so you can sit on a toilet & eat your food. When you refuse, I just think that is so disrespectful. Stupid? Right. Ridiculous? Right. If I don't want to see your food in your mouth, then I should just stop staring at you & look the other way? Right.

As for the flashy feeders, I've encountered a few of those myself, & although that isn't necessarily what I would do in public, by the time they unbuttoned their shirt & latched their baby on, it was usually a matter of seconds & with the baby on I could see as much of her boob as I could if she was walking down the beach in a bikini top. Sometimes less. I live in a beach town & I've seen plenty more boob on a summer's day at the beach than I EVER have from a breastfeeding mother. Strange thing though...I've never heard anyone complain at a restaurant that they would like that 20 something girl to put another top on........hmmm...

I wouldn't even consider that a flashy feeder.