Land Border Opening?

[wdwmom3]

I have hopes it will be early July

I’m just thinking it will take that long to get more people 2 doses. And allow 2 weeks for immunity.

 

[Sue M]

Posting this here and the airline policy thread:

Next steps on easing travel restrictions will be revealed by Monday: Minister LeBlanc

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/b...ions-will-be-revealed-monday-minister-leblanc

Dissappointed to hear they’re sticking to having 2 tests returning home . Would be nice if it was just one test at airport. If they insist on 2 tests at least make it 3 days rather than 72 hrs from entry point to Canada. With potential delays with connecting flights it could be a problem. I notice the US test is 3 days.
Maybe by August it will change.

Guess it’s going to be awhile until I can nip across border for my Trader Joes shopping

 

[Sue M]

I’m just thinking it will take that long to get more people 2 doses. And allow 2 weeks for immunity.

You may be right considering the vaccine rates are so different province to province. Some are moving faster than others. But just heard we have another big shipment arriving today. Seems to be going fast. And no reason they can’t just start with those that are vaccinated now
And a lower amount of people would give them a chance to work out the bugs.

 

[wdwmom3]

You may be right considering the vaccine rates are so different province to province. Some are moving faster than others. But just heard we have another big shipment arriving today. Seems to be going fast. And no reason they can’t just start with those that are vaccinated now
And a lower amount of people would give them a chance to work out the bugs.

Yes but a lot of younger people are still getting their first shot or just got one within the last couple weeks. They would have to wait a few weeks for a second shot and then the 2 weeks after.

So I can’t see it opening before mid to late July.

 

[Sue M]

Yes but a lot of younger people are still getting their first shot or just got one within the last couple weeks. They would have to wait a few weeks for a second shot and then the 2 weeks after.

So I can’t see it opening before mid to late July.

I think we should be getting an announcement Monday? A lot of us are waiting with baited breath for that! This being in limbo is awful.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

I don't know where I saw this it might have been here earlier on in the thread but it's kind of relevent. Applies to all governments these days. I had it saved on my desktop and just came across it again.

I seen this and laughed out loud at work. I was watching a Canadian Youtuber who has a cruising channel along with a personal channel ( Just Don) talking about this as well. I giggle at him sometimes. But this seems very much like what is happening now.

I didn't think it would be June. I think they will extend the June 21 order into two week increments vs 30-day increments going forward.

I am interested on what the plan is? What markers are they aiming for? What might be the rules be upon return to Canada? What about those of us who have received both doses? WHAT IS THEIR PLAN????

I think every Canadian deserves the right to know what their plan is.

I am not saying throw caution to the wind and whip open the boarder BUT, we have been promised that once vaccines started arriving, and shots were received, and now more second shots happening...can we not start to move forward? We still need to be somewhat cautious, but could we start to move forward now? We are doing what is being asked of us by our own leaders, and we have listened ( mostly) to the restrictions and rolled up our sleeves....so what is their plan?

 

[dvcdisney]

Perhaps they're waiting until everyone can get the 2nd dose without delay....since there's still a lot of people who, although they are anxious to book it, has to wait until it's their turn to move up the 2nd dose.

I do think that's going to be soon...so hopefully, by end of July, everyone would be able to book an earlier 2nd dose.

Our area is adding 2-4 clinics but only for 1st doses. But it appears that the 2nd dose availability is the issue.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

You may be right considering the vaccine rates are so different province to province. Some are moving faster than others. But just heard we have another big shipment arriving today. Seems to be going fast. And no reason they can’t just start with those that are vaccinated now
And a lower amount of people would give them a chance to work out the bugs.

Yes they should start with the fully vaccinated soon (and I’m saying that while only having one dose and second currently scheduled for mid September) - but I feel it’s partially the “we want to be fair as not everyone can get their second dose now” type of situation. We don’t want hurt anyone’s feelings because this is Canada after all. I am partially joking but wouldn’t rule that out. Lol
They should let those fully vaccinated come and go with a covid test and see how it goes. That way we have something to go on, see how it’s working. Instead of waiting for EVERYONE.

 

[Gigi22]

Perhaps they're waiting until everyone can get the 2nd dose without delay....since there's still a lot of people who, although they are anxious to book it, has to wait until it's their turn to move up the 2nd dose.

I do think that's going to be soon...so hopefully, by end of July, everyone would be able to book an earlier 2nd dose.

Our area is adding 2-4 clinics but only for 1st doses. But it appears that the 2nd dose availability is the issue.

Agreed. Currently, those of us in Ontario who had their first shot after April 18, are under 70 and do not live in one of the designated “hot spots” have to wait until July 19 to begin rebooking (moving forward) the date of their second shot. So, unless something radically changes before the end of June, I’m thinking a July opening is just not possible.

 

[KNovacovschi]

Agreed. Currently, those of us in Ontario who had their first shot after April 18, are under 70 and do not live in one of the designated “hot spots” have to wait until July 19 to begin rebooking (moving forward) the date of their second shot. So, unless something radically changes before the end of June, I’m thinking a July opening is just not possible.

Unless you received AZ as your first dose then it’s 8 weeks. I had my first shot on April 22nd and today I’m at 8 weeks and booked for Tuesday June 22nd for my 2nd shot but it’s Pfizer. I booked on Monday for it.

 

[hdrolfe]

CBC on Ontario 2nd doses this will help get us to two doses, but finding an appointment still seems to be the issue. Some people here don't even have their first dose yet...

 

[quandrea]

CBC on Ontario 2nd doses this will help get us to two doses, but finding an appointment still seems to be the issue. Some people here don't even have their first dose yet...

Perhaps it’s where I live, but there seems to be lots of Pfizer/Moderna supply at pharmacies. Encouraging people to reach out to your pharmacies.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Agreed. Currently, those of us in Ontario who had their first shot after April 18, are under 70 and do not live in one of the designated “hot spots” have to wait until July 19 to begin rebooking (moving forward) the date of their second shot. So, unless something radically changes before the end of June, I’m thinking a July opening is just not possible.

I agree that 2nd appts are an issue but it’s still no reason why those that ARE fully vaccinated already can’t cross the border with less restrictions.
I only have one dose and got it less than 3 weeks ago, I know I can’t go but I don’t see why my SIL is who is fully vaccinated can’t.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Perhaps it’s where I live, but there seems to be lots of Pfizer/Moderna supply at pharmacies. Encouraging people to reach out to your pharmacies.

Yes I just put myself on a waitlist at a couple of pharmacies. They still say they have to wait until you’re eligible as per the province but it’s another option right?
Bonus is they tell you in advance if it’s Moderna or Pfizer as personally I prefer not to mix.

 

[hdrolfe]

Perhaps it’s where I live, but there seems to be lots of Pfizer/Moderna supply at pharmacies. Encouraging people to reach out to your pharmacies.

I am on multiple wait lists. I was only able to book a second AZ because someone told me they had manged to get a booking at Costco for Pfizer, when I checked all the pfizer was gone but they had AZ spots. So I took it since it's Friday and I'd rather get it sooner, by the time I finished booking all the slots were gone. Why isn't there a central system? That's all I don't understand... they should have been more organized, other provinces are able to manage one site to book with but Ontario you have to register in multiple places, and that's if you can use the Provincial system, some local health units have their own... it's nuts.

 

[bcwife76]

Unless you received AZ as your first dose then it’s 8 weeks. I had my first shot on April 22nd and today I’m at 8 weeks and booked for Tuesday June 22nd for my 2nd shot but it’s Pfizer. I booked on Monday for it.

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

WE have thought the same thing. Since we did the mix and match....just because of the better fight for it against the variant (that is a little concerning here in Alberta - but our cases are still trending way down)

If it comes to needing another shot of Pfizer by the time we want to travel (which is Jan 2022) we will roll up our sleeve again for another shot.

Hopefully that won't be a concern by that time - and we will be considered fully vaccinated,

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

My parents had their first dose (PF) the third week of April, their second dose was moved from end of July to July 3.
My MIL had hers (MD) that same week but got her second for next week.
I am scheduled for mine Sept 7, but I know it will be bumped to the end of July.

 

[Sue M]

I agree that 2nd appts are an issue but it’s still no reason why those that ARE fully vaccinated already can’t cross the border with less restrictions.
I only have one dose and got it less than 3 weeks ago, I know I can’t go but I don’t see why my SIL is who is fully vaccinated can’t.

Exactly. And will give them a chance with gradual opening to test the system rather then wait for the stampede. No reason why fully vaccinated people can’t start crossing.

 

[Etch]

Currently, those of us in Ontario who had their first shot after April 18, are under 70 and do not live in one of the designated “hot spots” have to wait until July 19 to begin rebooking (moving forward) the date of their second shot.

They just moved this up to June 28th for everyone over 18 in Ontario depending on when you got your first shot.

Also, there are a massive amounts of vaccine arriving in Ontario this week which should help immensely with second appointments.