Land Border Opening?

[Sue M]

WE have thought the same thing. Since we did the mix and match....just because of the better fight for it against the variant (that is a little concerning here in Alberta - but our cases are still trending way down)

If it comes to needing another shot of Pfizer by the time we want to travel (which is Jan 2022) we will roll up our sleeve again for another shot.

Hopefully that won't be a concern by that time - and we will be considered fully vaccinated,

We’ll be needing a booster in a year.

 

[Sue M]

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

I’d be finding out. Not sure if US accepts AZ as being fully vaccinated.

 

[dis_guy]

I've been noticing more and more entertainment venues in the US are requiring full vaccinations for all their guests. The Bruce Springsteen one man show, for one, won't accept the AZ vaccine as it's not FDA approved. I'm worried that might also be the case for entry to the US as well. It'll really suck for all of us Canadians who took it because it was the only option open to us at the time. The same would hold true for many UK residents as they used loads of the AZ product as well. Who knows what that will mean for those who had AZ first and then an mRNA vaccine for their second dose? Would an mRNA booster next year rectify this?

 

[TommyJK]

I've been noticing more and more entertainment venues in the US are requiring full vaccinations for all their guests. The Bruce Springsteen one man show, for one, won't accept the AZ vaccine as it's not FDA approved. I'm worried that might also be the case for entry to the US as well. It'll really suck for all of us Canadians who took it because it was the only option open to us at the time. The same would hold true for many UK residents as they used loads of the AZ product as well. Who knows what that will men for those who had AZ first and then an mRNA vaccine for their second dose? Would an mRNA booster next year rectify this?

I'm guessing that the US from a border prespective will allow AZ folks. Like you noted it would eliminate about 1/2 the UK population if they didn't allow AZ folks in and that's a lot of tourist revenue and other business traveller implications that would hurt them.

Edit: Also the border re-opening is going to be a 2-way negotiated deal between Canada and the US. I would think the Canadian side of the negotiations will insist that they allow AZ folks as part of any negotiated re-opening plan.

 

[Susan2771]

Hopefully tomorrow the Federal Government will share the plan. Since the Prime Minister will be having the virtual meeting tonight with the premiers, maybe the PMO will want to get ahead of any potential leaks and confusion that could happen with the information being shared with the premiers.

 

[Sue M]

This is a whole new can of worms! I would like to think the US will look at the science and realize AZ is effective.

 

[ellbell]

I've been noticing more and more entertainment venues in the US are requiring full vaccinations for all their guests. The Bruce Springsteen one man show, for one, won't accept the AZ vaccine as it's not FDA approved. I'm worried that might also be the case for entry to the US as well. It'll really suck for all of us Canadians who took it because it was the only option open to us at the time. The same would hold true for many UK residents as they used loads of the AZ product as well. Who knows what that will mean for those who had AZ first and then an mRNA vaccine for their second dose? Would an mRNA booster next year rectify this?

Considering the US President actually released a portion of the AZ supply they weren't using so we could be vaccinated I'm sure it will be accepted

 

[hdrolfe]

I should think that the WHO approval of a vaccine would be enough to have it considered valid. I read an article about Canadians overseas getting versions not approved yet in Canada and having issues. It does cause me some concern since I'll have AZ. But I'm not sure it would be better to get Pfizer and mix n match at this point. It is certainly frustrating, hopefully things will clear up as more people get both doses, and if there would be some sort of vaccine passport from Canada that simply says "vaccinated for COVID".

 

[wdwmom3]

They may add something to say a vaccine approved in your country or vaccine approved in Canada, the UK etc. I’m saying this for the border, not necessarily other things.

 

[alohamom]

This is a whole new can of worms! I would like to think the US will look at the science and realize AZ is effective.

This! I believe that the reason that AZ is not FDA approved it because of the possible side effects, not because it is less effective as a vaccine. SMH...

 

[TommyJK]

Also realize that our PM is an AZ recipient. You think a border reopening plan with the US would happen that would exclude our Prime Minister?

IMO this is all being blown up out of proportion in the media (they're going nuts about it in the radio) from a single Broadway show announcement that somehow this is the default of what it will be everywhere including the border.

 

[wdwmom3]

Also realize that our PM is an AZ recipient. You think a border reopening plan with the US would happen that would exclude our Prime Minister?

IMO this is all being blown up out of proportion in the media (they're going nuts about it in the radio) from a single Broadway show announcement that somehow this is the default of what it will be everywhere including the border.

Exactly. It’s one business. It’s not going to be that way for the border.

 

[Sue M]

This! I believe that the reason that AZ is not FDA approved it because of the possible side effects, not because it is less effective as a vaccine. SMH...

That’s what I think too.

 

[suse66]

Agreed. Currently, those of us in Ontario who had their first shot after April 18, are under 70 and do not live in one of the designated “hot spots” have to wait until July 19 to begin rebooking (moving forward) the date of their second shot. So, unless something radically changes before the end of June, I’m thinking a July opening is just not possible.

Now officially June 28th! We are moving quickly.

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

I am not worried about it at all. All vaccines have been approved by Health Canada and I am confident the US government will recognize them. After all, the US gave us millions of AZ doses.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...une-17-2021-vaccine-update-waterloo-1.6069022
https://globalnews.ca/news/7958255/ontario-second-vaccine-doses-earlier-more-regions/

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

This is all great news! But personally I won’t be mixing brands of vaccine (we got Pfizer for the first dose)... read on the CDC website that you should not be mixing Pfizer and Moderna UNLESS you can’t find what you got the first time. Wonder how this will all play out. I look at AZ people and can’t imagine how confused they must be.

 

[TommyJK]

Interesting thing to note after my second jab. My first was AZ and my second I just got was Pfizer. The receipt I got from ministry of health shows the Pfizer shot I just got, then at the bottom it says I have received 2 doses of a valid vaccine. No mention of AZ anywhere on it.

 

[KNovacovschi]

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

After watching our evening news I’m not worried about mixing since they are pushing for Pfizer/Moderna instead of AZ but what I’m worried about is the US not acknowledging or accepting AZ as a valid vaccine since it’s not approved by the FDA. They stated on the news that places like Broadway will not accept it since it’s not approved in the US. We will have to see.

 

[KNovacovschi]

They just moved this up to June 28th for everyone over 18 in Ontario depending on when you got your first shot.

Also, there are a massive amounts of vaccine arriving in Ontario this week which should help immensely with second appointments.

Also depends where you are, they announced 3 more cities as Delta variant hotspot, Hamilton being one of them, and if you had your first shot May 9th or before you can book on Monday and if you had it May 30th and before you can book on Wednesday however if you are not in those Delta hotspot areas then it opens to everyone else on June 28th.

 

[Sue M]

Now officially June 28th! We are moving quickly.
I am not worried about it at all. All vaccines have been approved by Health Canada and I am confident the US government will recognize them. After all, the US gave us millions of AZ doses.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...une-17-2021-vaccine-update-waterloo-1.6069022
https://globalnews.ca/news/7958255/ontario-second-vaccine-doses-earlier-more-regions/

on the other hand, Canada says they won’t recognize vaccines that haven’t been approved here. I hope we’ll get some clarity next week.

This is all great news! But personally I won’t be mixing brands of vaccine (we got Pfizer for the first dose)... read on the CDC website that you should not be mixing Pfizer and Moderna UNLESS you can’t find what you got the first time. Wonder how this will all play out. I look at AZ people and can’t imagine how confused they must be.

Too late for me. I got Moderna as first shot then on Tuesday had Pfizer. In BC our health doctor and minister are saying it’s perfectly safe. I dont know why they wouldn’t be. They’re the same technology.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

on the other hand, Canada says they won’t recognize vaccines that haven’t been approved here. I hope we’ll get some clarity next week.


Too late for me. I got Moderna as first shot then on Tuesday had Pfizer. In BC our health doctor and minister are saying it’s perfectly safe. I dont know why they wouldn’t be. They’re the same technology.

Honestly I’m just paranoid with all the back and forth recommendations and yes Canada Healfh says it’s safe. I’m sure it is, I just prefer not to mix, I don’t know. I feel something different every day lol.
At some point Canada had a shipload of Pfizer coming and Moderna was going to be delayed. Now I’m not sure anymore.