Land Border Opening?

[AdamsMum]

Are you concerned at all about being let into the US (and other countries) with regards to mixing and matching? Our 8 weeks is up this coming Sunday, we got AZ as our first dose but it's extremely difficult to find AZ here in the Lower Mainland of BC and I think it will be way easier to get Pfizer as our second dose. The only thing holding me back is the what ifs of not being considered fully vaxxed if we mix and match.

I'm very concerned about this new wrinkle with the U.S. I followed all the protocols which caused me no end of anxiety including stay home, masking at work and anywhere outside of my home, missing my family who all live in other cities. I just had my first visit, short and outdoors, with my 86 year old mum since last September because she lives in another city. When they said get the first vaccine available to you which for 60 - 64 age group was AZ, I followed the advice, now that I've been fully vaccinated with AZ, NACI is recommending the second dose should be MRNA. Now I might not be able to travel to the U.S. because they won't accept AZ. I'm at the end of my rope with this. I own DVC, that is mostly where I take my vacations. Europe would be a once in a decade trip because of the cost.

 

[quandrea]

I'm very concerned about this new wrinkle with the U.S. I followed all the protocols which caused me no end of anxiety including stay home, masking at work and anywhere outside of my home, missing my family who all live in other cities. I just had my first visit, short and outdoors, with my 86 year old mum since last September because she lives in another city. When they said get the first vaccine available to you which for 60 - 64 age group was AZ, I followed the advice, now that I've been fully vaccinated with AZ, NACI is recommending the second dose should be MRNA. Now I might not be able to travel to the U.S. because they won't accept AZ. I'm at the end of my rope with this. I own DVC, that is mostly where I take my vacations. Europe would be a once in a decade trip because of the cost.

The cdc recognises AZ. See the linked webpage in an above post. There is one place (Springsteen on Broadway) not accepting AZ. This decision is one based upon ignorance and I can’t see it being a regularity going forward. I’d try and take it a step at a time. No need just yet to worry over your dvc. There are thousands of U.K. residents vaccinated with AZ. The US is not going to shut them all out.

 

[AdamsMum]

The cdc recognises AZ. See the linked webpage in an above post. There is one place (Springsteen on Broadway) not accepting AZ. This decision is one based upon ignorance and I can’t see it being a regularity going forward. I’d try and take it a step at a time. No need just yet to worry over your dvc. There are thousands of U.K. residents vaccinated with AZ. The US is not going to shut them all out.

I really hope you're right. It's hard not to overreact after all we've been through.

 

[samsteele]

Still in very early days re US acknowledging vaccinated travellers from abroad. Millions in the UK will have 2 shots AZ. They won't be kept out en masse because all they were offered was AZ and some limited Pfizer. Moderna not offered in the UK. My guess is Canada will jump on board with an internationally approved vax certificate that doesn't actually state the name of the vaccine or vaccines you received. Just that you had 2 approved doses according to your nationality. That should skirt these problems neatly.

 

[hdrolfe]

I'm very concerned about this new wrinkle with the U.S. I followed all the protocols which caused me no end of anxiety including stay home, masking at work and anywhere outside of my home, missing my family who all live in other cities. I just had my first visit, short and outdoors, with my 86 year old mum since last September because she lives in another city. When they said get the first vaccine available to you which for 60 - 64 age group was AZ, I followed the advice, now that I've been fully vaccinated with AZ, NACI is recommending the second dose should be MRNA. Now I might not be able to travel to the U.S. because they won't accept AZ. I'm at the end of my rope with this. I own DVC, that is mostly where I take my vacations. Europe would be a once in a decade trip because of the cost.

I feel the same, I moved my second AZ to Pfizer last minute yesterday, but still worry because it's mixing. I just feel defeated. Travelling within Canada is fine, and I guess Europe will be ok with it since they have been doing some testing on mixing (UK at least) but I want to cruise, and go back to Disney. I'll be considered "fully vaxxed" coming back to Canada at least, which had better have some benefit eventually.

I am glad that it looks like Canada is on track for a decent percentage of people getting vaccinated, we're leading now in one dose and I hope people that got one will want the second. I just hope all this effort and mixing will work out I guess?

First Phase of vaccine passport in Canada live in July, this is the ArriveCan app that's been mentioned before.

 

[quandrea]

I really hope you're right. It's hard not to overreact after all we've been through.

I know. I’ll often ask my husband’ “Are you worried?” when I’m getting anxious about something. He always replies, “Would it help?” (Quote lifted from Bridge of Spies movie). He’s right. Worry doesn’t change the outcome and it ruins my life in the meantime. One step at a time.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

In the article posted above, it says:

The Toronto Star reported Thursday that this phase — which would allow Canadians to digitally verify their vaccination status with the federal government — won't be ready until the fall and will only accept proof of vaccination with one of Canada's four accredited vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson.

So now we need to know if "fall" means Sept (likely not), Oct (most likely) or Nov (reaching). I am thinking they will wait to have this all go live once until summer vacations are over and school has started.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

In the article posted above, it says:

The Toronto Star reported Thursday that this phase — which would allow Canadians to digitally verify their vaccination status with the federal government — won't be ready until the fall and will only accept proof of vaccination with one of Canada's four accredited vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson.

So now we need to know if "fall" means Sept (likely not), Oct (most likely) or Nov (reaching). I am thinking they will wait to have this all go live once until summer vacations are over and school has started.

Yes that could be...
I read somewhere last night (trying to remember where) that even though it’s Fall for the digital vaccine proof, starting in July they will accept a screenshot or something else uploaded into the arrive app.

 

[hdrolfe]

Yes that could be...
I read somewhere last night (trying to remember where) that even though it’s Fall for the digital vaccine proof, starting in July they will accept a screenshot or something else uploaded into the arrive app.

The article I linked above says that. First phase will be live in July. They need provincial buy in, blah blah... hopefully by Fall.

 

[damo]

I know. I’ll often ask my husband’ “Are you worried?” when I’m getting anxious about something. He always replies, “Would it help?” (Quote lifted from Bridge of Spies movie). He’s right. Worry doesn’t change the outcome and it ruins my life in the meantime. One step at a time.

I don't think worrying is a choice, however.

 

[Marek Zyskowski]

I don't know where I saw this it might have been here earlier on in the thread but it's kind of relevent. Applies to all governments these days. I had it saved on my desktop and just came across it again.

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Luckily we are only worried about hockey in Montreal this week.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Trudeau is having press conference today at 11:15am according to this article:

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/buzz/vaccine-certificates-going-live-july-arrivecan-app-reports

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

The article I linked above says that. First phase will be live in July. They need provincial buy in, blah blah... hopefully by Fall.

Now that NB has opened its borders to all of Canada, NS is in stealth mode trying to get a vaccine certificate or card or something in place to identify 2-dose vaccinations. Hopefully this will push us to something more formal quicker so we will be ready to go in the fall.

 

[Susan2771]

First phase of vaccine certification going live in July for travellers entering Canada | CBC News

Maybe hearing more about this at the press conference with Trudeau this morning?

Trudeau expected to unveil U.S. border plan with restrictions set to expire Monday - 680 NEWS

 

[wdwmom3]

I just want to hear news about unvaccinated kids and how they will be handled.

 

[TommyJK]

I just want to hear news about unvaccinated kids and how they will be handled.

Unfortunately I don't think they'll get that specific today. And my guess is that whatever rule they put in place regarding unvaxxinated people will apply to all (kids and adults).

So if unvaxxed requires quarantines and/or various tests I'm assuming it will apply to both kids and adults. Just a guess though.

 

[Sue M]

According to the morning news today now it’s reversed, getting less than projected Pfizer and more Moderna. It’s enough to make you crazy. I didn’t want to wait, whatever they were putting in my arm I was going to take.

OH NO @#$&. Govt just announced they are extending Border Closure another month, until July 21

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

delete sorry phone went crazy lol

 

[TammyLynn33]

According to the morning news today now it’s reversed, getting less than projected Pfizer and more Moderna. It’s enough to make you crazy. I didn’t want to wait, whatever they were putting in my arm I was going to take.

OH NO @#$&. Govt just announced they are extending Border Closure another month, until July 21

Yikes .
I have got Pfeizer x2, DD will be getting both bc she’s 15, DS has own Pfeizer and I’m not sure even as a nurse I’m ok with him mixing . Tho cardiac issues are rare, I doubt as moving is new they would have much if any research on whether mixing increases the risk. I just worry ..
I feel like they are telling us whatever they need to to match the shipments coming in, just to get numbers up ..

 

[Susan2771]

Restrictions at U.S. border to remain in place until end of July, Blair says | CTV News