Kindle vs Nook

[ExPirateShopGirl]

The Kindle can be sideloaded with library books, as well. Obviously there's an extra step after downloading them from the library and sending them to the Kindle where they have to be converted first. I'm sure Overdrive and Amazon will come to an agreement soon... until then, I will patiently hold each of their hands and bridge the gap myself.


We have two different e-readers (Kindle and Sony) in our house, so there's a lot of converting books we purchase in one format so they can be read on the other device and vice versa.

Yes, Nook, Sony, Kobo do library books.
Only Kindle still refuses to use open format... go figure

Install ADE on your PC and sideloading library books are a breeze.
I pretty much sideloaded library books to my Nook within 4hrs of receiving it
And 3.5hours of it was to charge the device.

Do your research before you get your Nook (check your overdrive library collection, install ADE, etc.) and you'll be up and running in no time. Like I did



WOOHOO!!
I can't wait for our trip too... I already have some ideas how many books I'll be bringing in my Nook...

 

[hmacmahony]

Can you explain how to load library books onto my kindle. I can't figure that one out. I know how to download PDF to my laptop and send it to my kindle, but would love to also use my library on the kindle as well.
What do I need to do?

The Kindle can be sideloaded with library books, as well. Obviously there's an extra step after downloading them from the library and sending them to the Kindle where they have to be converted first. I'm sure Overdrive and Amazon will come to an agreement soon... until then, I will patiently hold each of their hands and bridge the gap myself.


We have two different e-readers (Kindle and Sony) in our house, so there's a lot of converting books we purchase in one format so they can be read on the other device and vice versa.

 

[mfd25wife]

Can you explain how to load library books onto my kindle. I can't figure that one out. I know how to download PDF to my laptop and send it to my kindle, but would love to also use my library on the kindle as well.
What do I need to do?

I would like to know, also. Please.

 

[jamounger]

My DH just bought me a Nook yesterday. I already have a Kindle and love it but I wanted some of the features of the nook also. The nook has been way harder to get going and get around than my kindle was when I first got it. I have been plugging away at it all morning. I am still trying to figure out the library book thing. Will probably just google instructions.I know I will love it in the end but i am having to work up to it.

 

[cseca]

The Kindle can be sideloaded with library books, as well. Obviously there's an extra step after downloading them from the library and sending them to the Kindle where they have to be converted first. I'm sure Overdrive and Amazon will come to an agreement soon... until then, I will patiently hold each of their hands and bridge the gap myself.


We have two different e-readers (Kindle and Sony) in our house, so there's a lot of converting books we purchase in one format so they can be read on the other device and vice versa.

Thanks for the info!
I'm just not sure why amazon refuses to open it straight out. If they did the would have SO much of the market share. Nook probably won't be able to catch up in a long long while.

I believe you that there's a way to convert library books to kindle format but personally I don't know if that's legal.
Again, that's just my personal opinion... not saying you are doing anything wrong. From what I've read around, DRM-ed library material couldn't be converted without stripping the DRM. And I'm not sure if stripping DRM is ok or not... again, just MO...
That is mainly the reason why I bought Nook. Don't want to get tangled up in the legalities of DRM stripping.

 

[jrmasm]

Thanks for the info!
I'm just not sure why amazon refuses to open it straight out. If they did the would have SO much of the market share. Nook probably won't be able to catch up in a long long while.

I believe you that there's a way to convert library books to kindle format but personally I don't know if that's legal.
Again, that's just my personal opinion... not saying you are doing anything wrong. From what I've read around, DRM-ed library material couldn't be converted without stripping the DRM. And I'm not sure if stripping DRM is ok or not... again, just MO...
That is mainly the reason why I bought Nook. Don't want to get tangled up in the legalities of DRM stripping.

One theory I read is that Amazon doesn't really care about the ereader market, it's the ebook market that they're concerned about.

 

[RitaE]

I would like to know, also. Please.

Start by getting Python installed on your computer. This is a very good tutorial

http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2010/02/21/how-to-install-python-and-pycrypto/

Then you need to obtain a couple of Python scripts. The Apprentice Alf blog has some good information as well as a link to the depository of current scripts.

http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/

 

[IleneF]

Exactly...why would they give you access to library books if they can SELL you the books..Quite frankly they could give away the kindles and still make a boatload of money if each Kindle downloads X amount of books! I'm leaning toward a nook simply because I'm a book borrower not owner, don't want to pay for the book if I can get it at the library or library website.

 

[cseca]

One theory I read is that Amazon doesn't really care about the ereader market, it's the ebook market that they're concerned about.

Exactly...why would they give you access to library books if they can SELL you the books..Quite frankly they could give away the kindles and still make a boatload of money if each Kindle downloads X amount of books! I'm leaning toward a nook simply because I'm a book borrower not owner, don't want to pay for the book if I can get it at the library or library website.

I agree with you there. DH's opinion is they should give away the kindles for peanuts and then make their $ on ebooks sales.... I'm hoping they would give them away for peanuts and then Nook will have to compete with pricing...

 

[MichelleB]

I joined goodereader.com to get my books. They have a monthly charge, 3 months, year or lifetime I believe. I have gotten TONS of books and you can request up to 4 per month if you're not a lifetime member. If someone else requests it, then you can download it and it doesn't count towards your request. They list many of the new release books automatically. It's a wonderful service and one I'm so glad I found. I went from 50 books on my nook to almost 900 now. And I've only been a member for about 1.5 months. I'm signed up for another 2.5 months....wonder how many books I'll be able to obtain! Seriously, check them out.

 

[NotUrsula]

Sorry folks, but DRM-stripping DOES violate US copyright law, and the Python workaround is DRM-stripping. It is not included in the new exemptions that were issued in July.

http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

Kindle and iPhone are not compatible with Overdrive collections.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

Interesting. The 6th exemption is ambiguous enough to be interpreted to allow it. Many of the PDF's I've encountered have text to speech once conversion has taken place. Good news!

Sorry folks, but DRM-stripping DOES violate US copyright law, and the Python workaround is DRM-stripping. It is not included in the new exemptions that were issued in July.

http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

Kindle and iPhone are not compatible with Overdrive collections.

 

[cseca]

I joined goodereader.com to get my books. They have a monthly charge, 3 months, year or lifetime I believe. I have gotten TONS of books and you can request up to 4 per month if you're not a lifetime member. If someone else requests it, then you can download it and it doesn't count towards your request. They list many of the new release books automatically. It's a wonderful service and one I'm so glad I found. I went from 50 books on my nook to almost 900 now. And I've only been a member for about 1.5 months. I'm signed up for another 2.5 months....wonder how many books I'll be able to obtain! Seriously, check them out.

Hey,
That sounds interesting!
Do you know if we could check out the lists of books they have?
I went to their site but couldn't figure out how to see them.
Lifetime $125 sounds pretty doable considering FLoP costs $15/year. And I'm sure I'll still be reading something 8 years from now

Oh and how long do you "rent" the books for? 14 days? 21 days?

edit: DOH! Nevermind... after doing more research apparently they "rent" pirated ebooks... Basically people upload pirated ebooks to their site and they "rent" them out.

 

[The Iron Giant]

Did anyone receive the newest Kindle yet?

 

[RitaE]

Originally Posted by MichelleB View Post
I joined goodereader.com to get my books. They have a monthly charge, 3 months, year or lifetime I believe. I have gotten TONS of books and you can request up to 4 per month if you're not a lifetime member. If someone else requests it, then you can download it and it doesn't count towards your request. They list many of the new release books automatically. It's a wonderful service and one I'm so glad I found. I went from 50 books on my nook to almost 900 now. And I've only been a member for about 1.5 months. I'm signed up for another 2.5 months....wonder how many books I'll be able to obtain! Seriously, check them out.

For goodness sake if you're going to get pirated books there's no reason to pay for them. There's numerous free sites out there.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

No kidding!

For goodness sake if you're going to get pirated books there's no reason to pay for them. There's numerous free sites out there.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

They are not the Netflix of books, they are the Napster of books. THIS is what DRM was designed to prevent, not converting a book or books you legally purchased or lawfully downloaded from the library to read on one of your own devices. I would be concerned for anyone who has used their site to obtain books.

Hey,
That sounds interesting!
Do you know if we could check out the lists of books they have?
I went to their site but couldn't figure out how to see them.
Lifetime $125 sounds pretty doable considering FLoP costs $15/year. And I'm sure I'll still be reading something 8 years from now

Oh and how long do you "rent" the books for? 14 days? 21 days?

edit: DOH! Nevermind... after doing more research apparently they "rent" pirated ebooks... Basically people upload pirated ebooks to their site and they "rent" them out.

 

[MichelleB]

First, I'd like to say there's no reason to be condescending. I admit I'm not technological and not even knowledgable about ebooks. I'm learning. I admit to not even knowing what a "pirated book" was before today. I found the website from a post on here a month or 2 ago. I've had no problem with their service. In light of today, I don't know that I'll extend my membership. That being said, to each their own.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

No one is being condescending. Truly, though, you should be concerned that once the feds shut down and investigate the site they'll have your personal information as someone who's received pirated literary works. 900 books in 45 days? That sounds technologically adept to me.

First, I'd like to say there's no reason to be condescending. I admit I'm not technological and not even knowledgable about ebooks. I'm learning. I admit to not even knowing what a "pirated book" was before today. I found the website from a post on here a month or 2 ago. I've had no problem with their service. In light of today, I don't know that I'll extend my membership. That being said, to each their own.

 

[cseca]

They are not the Netflix of books, they are the Napster of books. THIS is what DRM was designed to prevent, not converting a book or books you legally purchased or lawfully downloaded from the library to read on one of your own devices. I would be concerned for anyone who has used their site to obtain books.

I agree... but until Amazon outright says you can use library books to read on Kindle I'll stay away from it.
the same way I'll stay away from goodereaders.com