Ok despite not having an actual date that we are going I have just broke down and bought the PAP. I went for the monthly payment plan so I did not get the 2 for 1 which I am bummed about but I did see a post that had renewals at about $99 which is manageable. I figured the $45 a month (for the 3 of us) would be more palatable for my husband right now especially when he wants to upgrade the Dis Fla res passes we have to APs so we could go this summer. the Question I am finally getting to is that I know we won't stay on Universal hotels probably the POP at Disney so is the express passes for the rides that you buy worth it. And which rides are included? thanks for your help!!!