Jon & Kate Confusion

I don't see how doing PAID speaking engagements is NOT taking care of your family? If I could quit my job, spend 5 days a week home with my kid and do speaking engagements 2 days a week, I would do it in a heartbeat. I doubt people would really care what I have to say though :rotfl:

Oh, and as for the bath tub footage, I think that anger should be directed at the producers/network and not the Gosselins.

Not a huge fan, but I don't have a problem with the show or the fact that they are capitalizing on their 15 minutes. My only hope is that the kids will benefit from this as well in the form of some type of trust fund or college educations, etc.
 
The Gosselins have pretty much stopped working and now the kids are their source of income. So they pimp the kids out for THEIR profit...
EXPOITATION OF KIDS IS DISGUSTING!!

So youd think that by them not working that theyd be home taking care of those kids...
NOT!
1 to 2 times a week they go on their PAID speaking tours, mostly in churches or womens groups. In these "Speeches" they tell everyone that the Gosselins EXPECT "LOVE OFFERINGS" ...Meaning CASH...
They also sell autographed pics and postcards for $20.00 each...
CASH!

So which is it. You contradict yourself

See, what the show wont tell you, is that Jon and Kate get EVERYTHING FREE.
Free House
Free Clothing (Gap and Gymboree)
Free Trips
Free IKEA Furniture
Free Food
Free Nannies (5 in all)
Free House Cleaning
Free Laundry Services (3 people do ALLL their laundry, fold it and put it away)
Free Recreation
Free Piano
and
Free Hair Transplants, Teeth Whitening, and Tummy Tuck.

Care to back up your numerous allegations?
Yes some of the above it true, but most of them are nothing but your assumptions

It is sad that you have nothing better to do than to rant about people you do not know
 
To show you how LITTLE she cares about her kids...
They frequently show the kids naked in the tub or getting dressed or on the potty. Pedophiles put clips on YouTube and little Hannahs naked bath Video
was viewed over 12,000 times before concerned fans convinced YouTube to remove it. MONTHS AND MONTHS ago fans emailed Kate and told her to stop showing the kids naked..
Last nights NEW episode STILL had naked bath footage...

So it is all Kate? Jon, the shows producers, the executives at TLC are all apparently being controlled by her?
LOL..... You really need too take the tin foil hat off.
 
Hmmm...I think someone new just wants to stir the pot. :stir:

I like the show, the kids are adorable, and I am not judge and jury of ANYONE. That will be reserved for someone in much higher power than me.
 

Hmmm...I think someone new just wants to stir the pot. :stir:

I like the show, the kids are adorable, and I am not judge and jury of ANYONE. That will be reserved for someone in much higher power than me.

hmmmmm, you might be right!
 
Sorry...Didn't mean to feed the trolls. I should have looked at the post count.
A user name is close enough to a couple of DIS'ers that I didn't realize it was a troll.
 
I don't see it as exploitation or abuse. Parents can parent however they want to as long as the children are not being hurt. I don't have to agree with it - I don't agree with the way lots of parents raise their kids, but that doesn't bring it to the level of abuse. This is a very unique situation, and I would have absolutely no idea how I would handle it.

I am more concerned about what happens behind closed doors to many more children in this world.

As controlling as Kate is, I can't see her doing anything that would bring harm to her kids.

Then you should never have kids.

Its ABUSE to drag all the kids to a furniture store FOR the cameras, and have your one son writhing in pain with 1 week long constipation suffer while you look at booklets of bunk beds.
Its abuse to threaten to throw away your childs favorite security toy because he gotta lil gum on it, because YOU didnt want to waste your Organic Peanut Butter to remove the gum...
 
Can you provide a link to this article?


Unfortunately the original link to the article no longer works. :(
But its been quoted all over the web...

Heres the entire article:

I found this on the web:

Lt. Governor Knoll Remarks
“Gosselin Six” Birthday Party
May 12, 2005

There is no need to be coy about this celebration today.

This is far more than a birthday party. It is recognition that the Gosselins have given a whole new meaning to the concept of Mother’s Day!

I am a proud, outspoken, no-doubt-about-it fan of the great treasures of Pennsylvania. I can bend anyone’s ear about Valley Forge National Park or Independence Hall or the Library Hall or the Pocono’s, or Pennsylvania Dutch Country or the Carnegie Institute, or a hundred other places—but today, in this place, at this time, the Number 1 Pennsylvania treasure is the Gosselin Six.

I’ve been asked often: “Who are the best-known people in Pennsylvania?”

The temptation is to answer with names like Benjamin Franklin, Marlan Anderson, Arnold Palmer, Grace Kelly, Johnny Unitas, Margaret Mead—so many others—but the short-form response about Pennsylvania’s best known people is simply to say: Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel, and, of course, their beautiful big sisters, Cara & Madelyn.

My amazement continues. When this hockey team was born a year ago, I instantly recalled the responsibility and workload I experienced in raising four children—and their arrivals were spread out over a period of time.

To have six show up at the door on the same day, each saying, “Feed me. Clothe me. Shelter me. Guide me.” —well, that is a challenge of staggering dimensions.

But a challenge the Gosselins have energetically accepted.

And so has the “village.”

By that I mean the “It-takes-a-village” reference Hilary Clinton made so famous. The way friends and neighbors, and in many instances, the whole state, have rallied around this family is a very special story.

As Don Harold once said, babies are such a nice way to start people!

I’ve always believed that a baby is God’s opinion that life should be regarded as precious, and that no child should be starved for food, for education, or for love.

Every year in Pennsylvania we welcome over 140,000 new babies. That the Gosselins chose to escalate that number dramatically in 2004 is an occasion worthy of all the celebration we can bring it.

I try to picture 49 years from now when Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel will get together for their 50th birthday party. There will be more candles at that event than there were at the Vatican a few weeks ago. It will look like the runway lights have been turned on at an airport.

Somewhere in between this birthday and that one, there will be a lot of other milestones to celebrate — multiplied by six. Six first days of school, six first dates, six drivers’ licenses, six college tuitions…

I know that all parents think about these milestones, especially how they are going to provide their children with a college education. For Kate and Jonathan, I’m sure they think about this often.

That is why, for my gift to the Gosselin Family on this very special occasion, I am opening accounts for all eight of the Gosselin children through the Tuition Account Program, which I had a hand in creating when I served as Pennsylvania State Treasurer.

Contributions to these accounts will accrue throughout the children’s lives and be available to them once it comes time to attend college.

If you would like to make a contribution to the Gosselin Family’s TAP account, you can do so by making your check payable to “TAP 529,” writing “Gosselin” in the memo portion of the check, and sending your contributions to: Gosselin Sextuplets and Twins Accounts, TAP Bureau, 218 Finance Building, Harrisburg, PA 17120. More information on the Tuition Account Program can be obtained by calling 1-800-440-4000 or by visiting the Treasury website and clicking on Tuition Account Program.

Happy Mother’s Day, Kate and Jonathan. Pennsylvania is proud of you and this wonderful six-pack whose birthday we honor today. Congratulations, and many blessings for a healthy, happy, and prosperous future for your family!
 
must be a great IT guy, my hubby is an IT guy, and we can barely afford the two kids we have.

LOL


You got that right. I do IT f/t alllll week long AND work at my g/f's salon on weekends.

Weird. :rotfl:
 
I don't see how doing PAID speaking engagements is NOT taking care of your family? If I could quit my job, spend 5 days a week home with my kid and do speaking engagements 2 days a week, I would do it in a heartbeat. I doubt people would really care what I have to say though :rotfl:
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Speaking about what though?
What are these speeches about?
How Kates Supermom? Shes NOT. SHE DOES NOTHING.
She has outsourced the Mom duties to 5 nannys and Aunt Jodi and all the chores to housekeepers and laundry doers...
These speeches are attended by people who actually believe that the Gosselins are hurting for money and open their wallets to them.
Why cant people see the forest for the trees?
 
Sorry...Didn't mean to feed the trolls. I should have looked at the post count.
A user name is close enough to a couple of DIS'ers that I didn't realize it was a troll.

Sorry YOU all quoted my Blog upthread, thats why I posted here...
Scroll up, Im the preesi from the lefora blog you chatted about for 3 pages here...
 
so if you are not interested in helping the family, it's plain and simple....DON'T. Apparently, from what we see on the show, there are many people that are interested in helping the family out. I don't think the maid lasted very long, but the nanny service was a gift from Dr. Phil. The friends that help out aren't being forced to do so.

Guess what? You also don't have to watch the show and boost their ratings. I don't know if there is more hatred or jealousy that comes from these posts.

I think Kate is actually very smart. She knows right now that her kids are creating a stir and people are willing to open their arms and their wallets to help the family out. She would be stupid if she didn't accept the assistance.

I don't agree with everything that she does, but I also don't have 8 kids under the age of 8. The kids look happy and from what we see, they have a good life. Isn't that what really matters?
 
Sorry YOU all quoted my Blog upthread, thats why I posted here...
Scroll up, Im the preesi from the lefora blog you chatted about for 3 pages here...


For someone who hates the family so much, you sure spend a lot of time talking about them. :rolleyes1
 
so if you are not interested in helping the family, it's plain and simple....DON'T. Apparently, from what we see on the show, there are many people that are interested in helping the family out. I don't think the maid lasted very long, but the nanny service was a gift from Dr. Phil. The friends that help out aren't being forced to do so.

Guess what? You also don't have to watch the show and boost their ratings. I don't know if there is more hatred or jealousy that comes from these posts.

I think Kate is actually very smart. She knows right now that her kids are creating a stir and people are willing to open their arms and their wallets to help the family out. She would be stupid if she didn't accept the assistance.

I don't agree with everything that she does, but I also don't have 8 kids under the age of 8. The kids look happy and from what we see, they have a good life. Isn't that what really matters?

First of all I do not HATE anyone (but Josef Fritzl)

Second of all I am posting so people know what is really going on.
I am not the ONLY one who has huge issues with Kate Gosselin.
There are many many many people out there that have HUGE concerns about the mental health of these children and the lack of real parenting and also the scam that these two perpetrate on the public and their wallets.

Things to ask yourselves:

1) Why are Kates parents NOT INVOLVED...?
2) Why did they move away from the town where 1000s volunteered and raised money and built additions on to their house?
3) Why did they switch churches suddenly?

Because THESE are not GOOD PEOPLE!

Ask yourself also, why none of the other families of multiples chose to do series on tv, save 1 special a year just to stop prying eyes.
Because its EXPLOITIVE. And it rapes these children of NORMALCY and PRIVACY!
These arent CHILDREN anymore. They are STARS and they have fan clubs.
They cant go anywhere without ppl knowing them. They have lost the very thing that allows them FREEDOM.
They are A ZOO EXHIBIT IN A CAGE!
And their own parents have orchestrated and pimped them out for the almighty dollar...
 
For someone who hates the family so much, you sure spend a lot of time talking about them. :rolleyes1

Seriously!:thumbsup2 Your "ranting" is just generating interest in a show you seem to be so morally opposed to. So stop watching!

I do watch the show and disagree with what you say and I believe alot of what you say is inaccurate. For instance, I've never seen THREE neighbors come in to do laundry; what I see is Kate washing the laundry, Nana Janet folding it, and her friend Carla puts it away. They've offered; she accepted. Besides, what do you care? If you don't like it, change the channel.

(for the record, as far as I'm concerned, you're wasting your time and energy trying to turn me off the show with all of your negative comments. I think the show is entertaining and innocent. I'm amazed at the job Jon & Kate do with such a large family and I think the kids are adorable and, for the most part, well-behaved. Their parents must be doing something right!:thumbsup2 )
 
First of all I do not HATE anyone (but Josef Fritzl)

Second of all I am posting so people know what is really going on.
I am not the ONLY one who has huge issues with Kate Gosselin.
There are many many many people out there that have HUGE concerns about the mental health of these children and the lack of real parenting and also the scam that these two perpetrate on the public and their wallets.

I don't choose to go back and forth with you because I believe you're just here to cause trouble, but I just have to address this remark -- how is it that YOU know what's really going on?
 
I agree - how do you know what is really going on. You honestly can't tell from a 1/2 TV program that is on each week how their lives are. You are seeing parts of their lives.

I love the show, sure there are some things I may not agree with, but honestly I give them credit - I could never imagine raising 8 kids!

It's a great thing, if you don't like what you are watching just change the channel!
 
Sha Lyn?
Giving speeches is not a "JOB"
I cant believe you dont get that.




Honey? Watch the show, you will see where Dr Phil gave them free Nanny Service, Another show gave them free housecleaning, IKEA, Gymboree, Gap and Juicy Juice all have free product placement in the show. Her Tummy Tuck was free, etc etc etc...Someone gave them a free piano (which Kate complained about how hard it was to dust) John was jobless when they purchased the $350,000.00 house they live in now. How did that work?

Just watch the show! 3 neighbors come do their laundry (including their undies) each week...

Watch the show...



Ive seen the tups poop in their potties I think we ALLLLLLLLL know them by now...

It's a job. Maybe not by YOUR definition, but it is a job.

job

–noun 1. a piece of work, esp. a specific task done as part of the routine of one's occupation or for an agreed price: She gave him the job of mowing the lawn.
2. a post of employment; full-time or part-time position: She was seeking a job as an editor.
3. anything a person is expected or obliged to do; duty; responsibility: It is your job to be on time.


It's clear you have a very warped agenda. We all watch the same show and have differing opinions. MOST of us however aren't arrogant enough to ASSume that OUR opinion is the ONLY opinion.
 
I don't choose to go back and forth with you because I believe you're just here to cause trouble, but I just have to address this remark -- how is it that YOU know what's really going on?

Because Ive done research.
Ive read articles and posts where the Volunteers of Reading, Pa
told what really went on and heard from cameramen where Kate
was ungrateful and nasty about everything.

BTW- Im not here to start trouble Im here for a debate.
I found out this thread linked to my blog and there were wise people in here.
So I wanted to discuss J&K with them and clear up inaccuracies but obviously
SOME here just wanna hurl the same tired "Stop watching then" "You are a hater" etc...

If you dont want an intelligent debate, then step aside. Ill wait for those wise peope upthread that arent J&K Sheeple...
 

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