Is this acceptable or considered cutting in line?

[Praying Colonel]

Don't see it as line cutting. For the people who call it line cutting, do you also frown on people who save spots along parade routes or at shows like Fantasmic or Illuminations while one member of the family goes to get food or drinks? You know, those things that are very much proposed and suggested by the guide books and Disney Mom's Panel. I don't believe Disney frowns on it or is going to kick anyone out of the park for one member of their party getting some drinks or going to use the restroom while waiting in a line. Everyone at some point will be in this type of situation and we should all be understanding. Most people are smart enough to know the difference between intentional, rude line cutting and the need on a long hot day to use time in line to get drinks, food or go to the bathroom.

That's not line-cutting--that's seat-saving, which also creates lots of discussion.

Can we work refillable mugs and pool-hopping in here, while we're at it?

 

[Britgirlus]

I try to go to the World with the attitude of "don't let the little things bother you.." Why would I want to waste my energy getting upset about 1 man trying to catch up with his family at Disney World of all places... whether for Fastpasses or potty breaks.....

I have already promised my dh and ds5 that I will NOT be cranky or impatient while we're on our Disney trip - I WILL be happy, the magic WILL make me smile and no, I will NOT get angry if anyone cuts in line !! I don't think they believe me, as I'm the first to complain if anyone annoys me (and they often do) - but I'll prove them wrong - I'll be in my happy place for 7 whole days !! Three weeks to go !

 

[BayouMickey]

I get it just fine. You think it is perfectly acceptable for people send someone else ahead to hold their place in line and for the rest of the group to catch up when they can. If your whole argument supporting the practice is no one behind is affected anyway, why not make it really easy on dad and just have him meet you when you are about to get on the ride as he comes up the exit? No sense having him stand in line the whole time since he isn't taking up a second car anyway and no one behind is affected in the least.

Sure why not? no one is taking the seat right? Your basing your whole point on priciple, priciple is not always the best end to a means. Is it going to get you on the ride sooner or make you wait longer? no.. So why would it bother you so much except it being the priciple of the matter? Like I said stuck in that elementary school mentality. It's one guy trying to reunite with his family not a bunch of blood thirsty vikings pushing you back using their Capital One Rewards.

The grocery line example is another red herring. If you had finished checking out and then realized you forgot something, would you think you could stay at the cash register while dad goes back for 2 minutes to pick something up and make everyone behind you wait? No. You would finish up and let the person behind you check out and then go back for the item you forgot and use the express lane. The difference in forgetting one thing is a good faith effort on your part when getting in line versus really working the system where the rest of the party shops the last 3 aisles and then expects to jump up to you with half a cart worth of groceries so they didn't have to wait in the checkout line. Clearly it is far more efficient in time if you send one of your party to get in the checkout line about 10 minutes before you are ready to checkout to hold a spot in line. Self-made fast pass!

Ah in a perfect world.. That doesn't happen, you know it, I know it..
Dad quickly goes get coffee and cashier waits. 2 minutes out your precious time will not kill you nor me. I'd gladly wait knowing that that circumstance may happen to me one day.

 

[disneyfantotheend]

Just curious to those who specify that they don't mind 1 "parent" getting a FP and joining their family. I know many said 1 person, but a few specified it was ok if it was a parent of small children. How does that differ from 1 teenager grabbing fps for him and his buddies and rejoining them in line? I think it is a little prejudicial.

 

[BayouMickey]

Just curious to those who specify that they don't mind 1 "parent" getting a FP and joining their family. I know many said 1 person, but a few specified it was ok if it was a parent of small children. How does that differ from 1 teenager grabbing fps for him and his buddies and rejoining them in line? I think it is a little prejudicial.

To me it doesn't, the point is the same. it's not getting you on the ride any sooner or later. It's just the fact that people want to make it a "it's the priciple of the matter" issue. It's simple logic, it's a seat that no one else will use so why let it go to waste on priciple?

 

[monkeybug]

I get it just fine. You think it is perfectly acceptable for people send someone else ahead to hold their place in line and for the rest of the group to catch up when they can. If your whole argument supporting the practice is no one behind is affected anyway, why not make it really easy on dad and just have him meet you when you are about to get on the ride as he comes up the exit? No sense having him stand in line the whole time since he isn't taking up a second car anyway and no one behind is affected in the least.

The grocery line example is another red herring. If you had finished checking out and then realized you forgot something, would you think you could stay at the cash register while dad goes back for 2 minutes to pick something up and make everyone behind you wait? No. You would finish up and let the person behind you check out and then go back for the item you forgot and use the express lane. The difference in forgetting one thing is a good faith effort on your part when getting in line versus really working the system where the rest of the party shops the last 3 aisles and then expects to jump up to you with half a cart worth of groceries so they didn't have to wait in the checkout line. Clearly it is far more efficient in time if you send one of your party to get in the checkout line about 10 minutes before you are ready to checkout to hold a spot in line. Self-made fast pass!

Ummm....I said in that grocery post that if the clerk was already finished ringing up my order, than obviously my husband would get in the back of the line and wait, but if the clerk is not finished with my order, how does it put you out since you have to wait anyways? I was also talking about one item (like one person) not half a cart full of grocery's (like one person holding the line for 15) which in my mind is a completely different situation!
My point is that if you are going to have to wait for the next car anyways, why do you care if the husband gets in line at the very last second?? I doesn't matter (in that circumstance) what his intentions were. It doesn't matter if he was trying to catch up, getting a snack, using the restroom, getting a fast pass, or doing the chicken dance. You have to wait for the next empty car anyways! I just totally don't get why in a circumstance where it's one family per car you would even think twice about why he is arriving late to the line.

 

[BayouMickey]

Ummm....I said in that grocery post that if the clerk was already finished ringing up my order, than obviously my husband would get in the back of the line and wait, but if the clerk is not finished with my order, how does it put you out since you have to wait anyways? I was also talking about one item (like one person) not half a cart full of grocery's (like one person holding the line for 15) which in my mind is a completely different situation!
My point is that if you are going to have to wait for the next car anyways, why do you care if the husband gets in line at the very last second?? I doesn't matter (in that circumstance) what his intentions were. It doesn't matter if he was trying to catch up, getting a snack, using the restroom, getting a fast pass, or doing the chicken dance. You have to wait for the next empty car anyways! I just totally don't get why in a circumstance where it's one family per car you would even think twice about why he is arriving late to the line.

Why you still here??? Go get ready!!!

 

[jm106]

I always wonder, would you really want to wind thru a long line "excuse me... can I get thru... pardon me... my family is up ahead...) or just go get the FP before or while mom and child ride dumbo and meet them at the end.
Or, get out of line, go get FP and while your at it, get one for all of us staying in the line for our turn
thinking more about this and here is my analogy(dumb as it may sound,lol)
Its like when I go with a group to a restaurant. If my meal comes out first, do I start to enjoy it or wait for others to get theirs? While it wouldnt make their food come faster for me to wait ,or the meal really go any quicker, its still right to wait. Its not the end of the world if I didnt wait and many ppl wouldnt care but I still would do it as a courtesy. (I have small kids and they also are expected to wait for the most part.)

 

[TheDWord]

I wonder if the same people who have an issue with one person joining the line late, apply the same "line etiquette" in real life?
If I am at the register with a cart full of grocery's already unloaded and I realize I forgot coffee and send my husband to get it, does he then have to go to the end of the line even if the clerk is still ringing up my grocery's? You are going to have to wait behind me anyways, and adding that one item is unlikely to add much time to your wait.
Now if the clerk is done ringing my order up, then obviously he has to go to the end of the line.
I see this same logic applicable to lines for rides. If a family is all going to be in the same ride vehicle and you have to wait for the next one anyways, why do you care if the husband joins them late? It has no impact on your wait time.

In your example above, let's say its a busy day at the grocery, and every line is long. Now let's say everyone in front of you forgot a few items and sent their husbands to get them. Well, it DID add significantly to your wait time.

Let's use another variation of your example. It's a weekend and the grocery lines are very long. OK, one person did it and it was fine, noone complained and there was no policy against it. Now, someone observing this behind you says "hmm... I think I can take advantage of this" and the next time he or she goes to the grocery store, the husband gets on line with a pack of gum in his hand, and while he waits, the wife picks up a month's worth of groceries, goes to the front of the line where the husband is and the husband says "excuse me, I was my wife went back to get a few things"

See the problem? Without a policy forbidding it, that means anyone can do it, and people start abusing it and manipulate something meant to forgive honest mistakes into self-benefitting loopholes. Also, if everyone in front of you does it, it WILL add significantly to your wait time.

 

[monkeybug]

Why you still here??? Go get ready!!!

That's the problem!! I've been getting ready for three months, and now there's nothing left to do! I even cleaned the refrigerator!
Nothing left to do but debate line etiquette!!!

 

[Mickey Fanatic]

I can't honestly be the only one who always returns between the times and ditches the fastpass if the time has passed.

We also return between the times on the fastpass. We have never thought about trying to use them after they expire.

 

[TheDWord]

We also return between the times on the fastpass. We have never thought about trying to use them after they expire.

Didn't even know you could use the fastpass after the expiration time

 

[monkeybug]

In your example above, let's say its a busy day at the grocery, and every line is long. Now let's say everyone in front of you forgot a few items and sent their husbands to get them. Well, it DID add significantly to your wait time.

Let's use another variation of your example. It's a weekend and the grocery lines are very long. OK, one person did it and it was fine, noone complained and there was no policy against it. Now, someone observing this behind you says "hmm... I think I can take advantage of this" and the next time he or she goes to the grocery store, the husband gets on line with a pack of gum in his hand, and while he waits, the wife picks up a month's worth of groceries, goes to the front of the line where the husband is and the husband says "excuse me, I was my wife went back to get a few things"

See the problem? Without a policy forbidding it, that means anyone can do it, and people start abusing it and manipulate something meant to forgive honest mistakes into self-benefitting loopholes. Also, if everyone in front of you does it, it WILL add significantly to your wait time.

Actually as a former grocery store clerk, it probably takes less than 1 second for me to scan an additional item, and because in my example the clerk is still ringing up the grocery's when said husband returns, the people behind me would have to wait a whopping 1 second longer than they would have for that coffee to be scanned.( I never said anything about the clerk holding the line for that one item, which is really different in my mind) So I guess if you were in the back of the line, and 60 people ahead of you added one item in the middle of their order, you might have to wait 1 minute longer (but personally if I was behind 60 people in a grocery store, I would go get Chick Fil-A instead)
The point is that you have to wait anyways, it doesn't matter if 1 or 100 individual families do it, because on rides like Dumbo it is one family per ride vehicle. If there were 100 parties of 1 or 100 parties of 2 in front of you, you would still have to wait until the 101 car to ride.

 

[Ronni]

Didn't even know you could use the fastpass after the expiration time

A cast member gave us fastpasses for Toy Story Mania that were hours past the expiration time. When we asked the person taking the tickets if that was OK, he cheerfully said it was just fine. It's trying to get on the ride before the window opens that's the big issue.

People actually have issues with returning after the fastpass window? Why?

 

[BayouMickey]

In your example above, let's say its a busy day at the grocery, and every line is long. Now let's say everyone in front of you forgot a few items and sent their husbands to get them. Well, it DID add significantly to your wait time.

Let's use another variation of your example. It's a weekend and the grocery lines are very long. OK, one person did it and it was fine, noone complained and there was no policy against it. Now, someone observing this behind you says "hmm... I think I can take advantage of this" and the next time he or she goes to the grocery store, the husband gets on line with a pack of gum in his hand, and while he waits, the wife picks up a month's worth of groceries, goes to the front of the line where the husband is and the husband says "excuse me, I was my wife went back to get a few things"

See the problem? Without a policy forbidding it, that means anyone can do it, and people start abusing it and manipulate something meant to forgive honest mistakes into self-benefitting loopholes. Also, if everyone in front of you does it, it WILL add significantly to your wait time.

this is a bad analogy all together ,sorry monkey, because we're talking a matter of seconds, a couple minutes at most, for getting a fp to catching up with family. there's no hold up. Not even enough time for the family to get halfway through the queue. And if a family has enough time to make it to the loading section then there's really no wait time to consider. And i'm sure if the family really wanted to ride together, they'd step aside and wait till dad catches up letting you get on....

 

[Ronni]

I normally don't get all that irritated with a situation like this. I DO get irritated in the case of a character line, where the time is limited and hubby is already cranky b/c I made him wait in a character line in the first place.

So for example, I'm in line for Space Mountain and a Dad rushes up to be with his family. No big deal to me. But if I've been waiting 15 minutes to see Mickey Mouse, and I hear the "OK, five more minutes and Mickey's going on break!" and there is just one person in front of me (Ooh, ooh, looks like I'll get to take a picture with Mickey before he goes to have some cheese!), and then that person waves her hand and 6 other people join her out of nowhere... THAT I have a problem with.

 

[monkeybug]

this is a bad analogy all together ,sorry monkey, because we're talking a matter of seconds, a couple minutes at most, for getting a fp to catching up with family. there's no hold up. Not even enough time for the family to get halfway through the queue. And if a family has enough time to make it to the loading section then there's really no wait time to consider. And i'm sure if the family really wanted to ride together, they'd step aside and wait till dad catches up letting you get on....

But in MY analogy (and not the various variations) it doesn't add time. I wasn't talking about the clerk holding the line and waiting, or a bunch of items added (but unless you are at walmart it shouldn't take any noticeable amount of time to add even multiple items), or someone holding the line with a pack of gum. I was saying that if upon return the clerk is still ringing the grocery's, it doesn't add time, because you can't check your grocery's out until she is finished anyways. Kinda' like you can't get on the next car if there is a family in front of you, and it doesn't matter if you add one member to the family, you still have to wait for the next one.

 

[Suellen]

You are all saying you have to wait for the next empty car anyway... that just IS NOT true! The OP uses the example of Pooh's ride... but MANY, MANY other rides are not car based.... or even if they are ~ mom and child get in front of car A leaving row 2 empty ~ my daughter and I can ride in row 2 rather than wait for car B moving everyone through the line faster.

I just don't get what part of you go wait in line and I will find you later people think is okay. When you go to the mall at Christmas time and the parking lot is full do you drop someone off and have them walk the parking lot looking for an empty space and then stand in it till you get there??

To those of you who use a FP after expiration.... what do you think they put an expiration time on there for???? It is to get a certain number of people back during a certain window of time so that it doesn't interupt the standby line to heftily ~ while still giving people a perk. If you come back beyond your time you throw that all off.

I am so totally confused as to how people don't understand that???? A rule is a rule is a rule. My three year old understands all this ~ why can't a bunch of adults??

Line cutting is wrong. Period. End of story.

Now let's debate the "When are you in line for the bus" thing for another 11 pages.

 

[BayouMickey]

But in MY analogy (and not the various variations) it doesn't add time. I wasn't talking about the clerk holding the line and waiting, or a bunch of items added (but unless you are at walmart it shouldn't take any noticeable amount of time to add even multiple items), or someone holding the line with a pack of gum. I was saying that if upon return the clerk is still ringing the grocery's, it doesn't add time, because you can't check your grocery's out until she is finished anyways. Kinda' like you can't get on the next car if there is a family in front of you, and it doesn't matter if you add one member to the family, you still have to wait for the next one.

That's true you initially said that. sorry i got caught up in the "priciple" of the thing lol

 

[KennySC]

It wouldn't bother me but my guess is that you will get varied responses.

It would not bother me and if you are nice about moving thru the line you won't have problems. It's the ones that push they're way thru to catch up and get under my skin.