Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[snappy]

I commend your honesty.

You mean about the big train wreck part of the gossip part?

 

[TippyThomas]

You mean about the big train wreck part of the gossip part?

Probably both considering what I've read here.

 

[Tink-osophy]

I think if you want to be global influencers and sell us your wares you should be discussed. We should never just accept that kind of influence without question.

And then there's the whole choosing to give a very 'tabloidy' emotive interview to a potentially huge audience (on top of everything else) They're giving every impression of wanting to be a talking point ...and wanting to shut everyone else up.

And, of course, there's this: -

Hey, it's been a whole year of a pandemic, nobody can hardly go anywhere, and we've all got spare time on our hands.

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On a separate note, why would some take part in threads purely to have a go at other posters, but not to discuss the actual topic?

 

[VandVsmama]

I think if you want to be global influencers and sell us your wares you should be discussed. We should never just accept that kind of influence without question.

And then there's the whole choosing to give a very 'tabloidy' emotive interview to a potentially huge audience (on top of everything else) They're giving every impression of wanting to be a talking point ...and wanting to shut everyone else up.

And, of course, there's this: -





Why would some take part in threads purely to have a go at other posters, but not to discuss the actual topic?

Well, I don't know about other posters. But in this thread, I ** have ** been discussing the actual topic.

 

[Tink-osophy]

Well, I don't know about other posters. But in this thread, I ** have ** been discussing the actual topic.

Oh no! I wasn't referring to you AT ALL.

I quoted you for the first part of my post, not the second, and because you made me giggle.

Sorry for any confusion. Have edited to make it clearer. I hope it is clear now.

 

[cabanafrau]

From a devil's advocate perspective, possibly incredibly devilish, here's another set of possibilities to consider:

The information that Buckingham Palace is launching an investigation into the bullying claims is tied to the upcoming interview. Could the palace PTB be stirring this pot as a preemptive strike against what they expect to be unflattering claims against the palace/royal family/the bureaucracy?

Is it entirely beyond the realm of any and all possibility that Prince Phillip's hospitalization is actually a strategic maneuver to sway sympathy, attempt to shut the interview down and isn't really anything serious enough to merit a hospital stay at all? (Bearing in mind, we're talking about a geriatric patient on the high end of even the geriatric range who is also incredibly rich and well known.)

I'm not suggesting that either situation is factual. But I do recognize that there is an awful lot vested by many more people than just the family in keeping the system a going concern, and as such powerful forces sometimes engage in extreme strategies.

 

[mamamia2005]

From a devil's advocate perspective, possibly incredibly devilish, here's another set of possibilities to consider:

The information that Buckingham Palace is launching an investigation into the bullying claims is tied to the upcoming interview. Could the palace PTB be stirring this pot as a preemptive strike against what they expect to be unflattering claims against the palace/royal family/the bureaucracy?

Is it entirely beyond the realm of any and all possibility that Prince Phillip's hospitalization is actually a strategic maneuver to sway sympathy, attempt to shut the interview down and isn't really anything serious enough to merit a hospital stay at all? (Bearing in mind, we're talking about a geriatric patient on the high end of even the geriatric range who is also incredibly rich and well known.)

I'm not suggesting that either situation is factual. But I do recognize that there is an awful lot vested by many more people than just the family in keeping the system a going concern, and as such powerful forces sometimes engage in extreme strategies.

There is someone who I am friends with on fb. He is really into a big political storm that is supposedly coming, and says that Prince Phillip died last year.

But no, I don't think Prince Phillip's illness has been fabricated.

I do however think that the investigation into the bullying claims could be a preemtive strike.

 

[Skywalker]

I won't be watching. I am curious what they say, but not curious enough to sit through their vanity project. I am sure I will hear about it in general terms but I hope its a ratings failure and that these two would just fade into irrelevance...

 

[mom2rtk]

From a devil's advocate perspective, possibly incredibly devilish, here's another set of possibilities to consider:

The information that Buckingham Palace is launching an investigation into the bullying claims is tied to the upcoming interview. Could the palace PTB be stirring this pot as a preemptive strike against what they expect to be unflattering claims against the palace/royal family/the bureaucracy?

Is it entirely beyond the realm of any and all possibility that Prince Phillip's hospitalization is actually a strategic maneuver to sway sympathy, attempt to shut the interview down and isn't really anything serious enough to merit a hospital stay at all? (Bearing in mind, we're talking about a geriatric patient on the high end of even the geriatric range who is also incredibly rich and well known.)

I'm not suggesting that either situation is factual. But I do recognize that there is an awful lot vested by many more people than just the family in keeping the system a going concern, and as such powerful forces sometimes engage in extreme strategies.

I believe Philip had heart surgery. That's hard to fake and keep under wraps. It's not like they could say they did it at the palace.

I have no doubt the new investigation is a preemptive strike though.

 

[cabanafrau]

There is someone who I am friends with on fb. He is really into a big political storm that is supposedly coming, and says that Prince Phillip died last year.

But no, I don't think Prince Phillip's illness has been fabricated.

I do however think that the investigation into the bullying claims could be a preemtive strike.

I don't think Phillip is dead. Merely because of the timing of things I suggested what I did about his hospitalization. As I said, he's at the high end of the geriatric scale, well known and incredibly wealthy. Even something minor is likely to merit top notch medical attention.

Earlier in the thread there was mention of the fact that there is a lot of corroboration of the bullying claims. I mentioned back then that the corroboration would need to be probed because it is a situation where corroboration might not point to evidence that something happened, but in fact be the result of people working in concert to create evidence. If something is genuinely being evaluated for facts it has to be looked at globally.

I'm expecting dirty hands to a certain degree on both sides.

 

[ronandannette]

I'm planning on turning it into a drinking game. Every time she clutches her bump? Drink. Every time Diana/mother is mentioned? Drink. Every time the words "mental health are uttered? Drink. I figure to make it about ten minutes before I'm under the table. And that may be generous.

Would it be just too much if you add in the phrases "my voice/our voices"?

There is someone who I am friends with on fb. He is really into a big political storm that is supposedly coming, and says that Prince Phillip died last year.

But no, I don't think Prince Phillip's illness has been fabricated.

I do however think that the investigation into the bullying claims could be a preemtive strike.

Sorry but that's just crazy talk.

 

[mamamia2005]

Yes generally here in the UK a man of 99 years of age would not be recommended for heart surgery. Wealth, and who he is definitely played a big part!

 

[Disneefun]

Would it be just too much if you add in the phrases "my voice/our voices"?

Possibly. I debated also including "privacy," but figured I'd drop dead from alcohol poisoning before the first commercial break (because I suspect the bump clutching will be enough to induce cirrhosis of the liver even absent any of the other phrases).

 

[Turn the Page]

I saw a documentary several months ago in which one of Diana's former staff members, I don't remember his exact title, told her just before the infamous Martin Bashir interview that she absolutely had to stop antagonizing the royal family. He quit immediately after the interview saying he knew at that point that she wouldn't listen to him and there was nothing more he could do for her.

I know parallels have been drawn between that interview and the upcoming Oprah interview but good lord. Every time a new teaser is dropped all I can do is shake my head and think "SHOTS FIRED!!!!" There is no way any advisor with any connection to the royal family or knowledge of royal protocol is telling them this is a good idea.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Now MM has said no way the interview will not be postphoned out of respect for PP. She claims they are only using his heart surgery and illness anyways. Didn’t she get mad at her dad for being hospitalized and said it ruined her wedding? This woman is as vile as they come. I have lost any sympathy or good will for Harry too. Unbelievable he’s procreated with this toxic woman twice. He must really have some screws loose. I hope the staff will be allowed to speak out and fully expose MM for what she really is. Wow! She is worse than anyone could ever have imagined.

 

[Tink-osophy]

I'm won't be watching it. They don't want us to believe everything written/said about them - and I don't - but, equally, there's no way I'd believe everything they say, especially in this kind of interview!

The 'teasers' are suggestive of too much violin playing when they could be moving on and actually doing good in the world.

This interview isn't about doing good, it smells much more strongly of score-settling. The choice to do this interview (let alone what the clips say about it its content and tone) sends a different message from the one, I think, they are trying to send.

It doesn't seem they just wanted to break away from his family and the work of being senior royals - it seems they want to bring the whole institution down!

However much they don't want to be royal why would they do this to his family?

 

[TipsyTraveler]

If I were Philip I’d be upset anyone was talking about postponing the interview until some future date, at which point I might be dead. “Don’t leave me hanging, I want to know what it says!”

I know that sounds like I’m just joking, but I’m not. I’m serious.

 

[Tink-osophy]

Is it entirely beyond the realm of any and all possibility that Prince Phillip's hospitalization is actually a strategic maneuver to sway sympathy, attempt to shut the interview down and isn't really anything serious enough to merit a hospital stay at all? (Bearing in mind, we're talking about a geriatric patient on the high end of even the geriatric range who is also incredibly rich and well known.)

I know you're being a little devil here , but there's no way the Queen would allow anything like this. She has far too much self-respect and respect for the monarchy. She knows they'll weather this storm.

I, also, think she has learnt from big mistakes that were made re. Charles and Diana. She comes across very differently now from how she did then.

 

[Tink-osophy]

Possibly. I debated also including "privacy," but figured I'd drop dead from alcohol poisoning before the first commercial break (because I suspect the bump clutching will be enough to induce cirrhosis of the liver even absent any of the other phrases).

I'm worried for you! Make sure to drink plenty of water!

 

[snappy]

I'm worried for you! Make sure to drink plenty of water!

Eating a full meal ahead of time might help! I expect a spike in liquor sales ahead of Sunday evening. Luckily we are at the beach and are already fully stocked for the weekend so we won’t have to compete if there is a run on supplies.