Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

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It may turn out to be rather boring, who knows, but part of the shock here is that this is just not something that’s usually done by a senior member of the RF.
I realize, and I think the institution leaves themselves vulnerable to all this “shock and scandal” by being so rigid in what a member of the royal family does or does not do. Is Meghan still considered a senior member?
 
I realize, and I think the institution leaves themselves vulnerable to all this “shock and scandal” by being so rigid in what a member of the royal family does or does not do. Is Meghan still considered a senior member?
They supposedly “stepped back”, however they continue to use their royal titles, which they had agreed not to do.

https://sussexroyal.com/
 
Yes, the hairstyle is a norm for her (it suits her) -- it's still uncanny when you look at the two photos side-by-side, though, the dress, the expression... maybe it's a subconscious thing!

I've noticed that a lot of people defending Meghan are trying to do it by criticising (and in some places insulting) Kate. Pulling someone else down to lift yourself or someone else up never works, because it's not real. I agree Kate must just want to be free of it all.
Megs carefully scripts everything. I seriously doubt it was a coincidence. I agree that trying to rise by stepping on others doesn't put one in a good light.


I am going to be tied up Sunday night. Would any of you nice people mind giving me the cliff notes version, sans the parts where Oprah fans the flames?
I am looking for the “just the facts, ma’am” version. That’s the Joe Friday version from Dragnet for all you young’uns.
I can't help. It's two hours of my life that I can NEVER get back!

Just what’s been discussed here and the clips that have made it to CNN.

If by “they” you mean the palace as a whole, well then they’ve only served to damage their own reputation by participating in a cover-up. If the concerns were brought up two years ago, then the palace had an ethical obligation to investigate this two years ago. Because now it’s both a scandal and a cover-up, which is not a good look for any of them.
It shows the lengths they went to in an attempt to shield MM. The RF nor the staff wanted a scandal. MM decided to air their dirty laundry in public and bash the staff. She only manages to make herself look worse.
 
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Almost unsurvivable?

I’m pretty sure that’s quite a stretch. Was she abused? Was there violence of some sort threatening her? I can think of many situations almost unsurvivable but I cannot fathom MM throwing fits in England being one of them. Wow.

ETA—sorry, I should have quoted the post above mine with the link about the interview being Oprah’s best yet where Meghan says this was almost unsurvivable. It caught me off guard and I saw red for a moment.
By unsurvivable does MM mean she was told it was inappropriate for Royals to procure freebie designer duds? Allegedly one of her tantrums was over this very issue. She said it was perfectly acceptable because she was an actress. Entitled much?
 
It is so desperately sad and worrying that we could wake up on any morning to news that the Queen or Prince Philip, or indeed Prince Charles, given his age, have passed away, at a time when we are dealing with this frippery.
Meghan could have brought so much to the U.K., the U.S. and the Commonwealth, by performing public service as a senior member of the Royal Family, so why am I left feeling that she has done immeasurable harm to women and in particular to the reputation of American women worldwide?
Surely serving the Commonwealth as a senior member of the Royal family, and making her fellow citizens in the U.S. proud of her, should have been enough for her? She had an amazing, enviable opportunity to do altruistic good throughout the world and to make a real difference to people’s lives and she chose to throw it away. Of course, she would have had to make sacrifices; any true service, take, for example, the armed forces or the priesthood, requires an element of personal sacrifice and the greater the potential service, the greater that sacrifice has to be.
As to the lese-majesty of Prince Harry... well if only we could throw him in the dungeons of the Tower of London.
 
Yep, as I said a few pages back, the fab four could have done so much good together, really bringing the monarchy into the younger population's minds.

I have just been reading the Daily Mail article about how Kate and Camilla have allegedly leaked stories to the press about Meghan. Wonder if Camilla is grateful she is now not one of the most hated women in Britain!
 
Yep, as I said a few pages back, the fab four could have done so much good together, really bringing the monarchy into the younger population's minds.

I have just been reading the Daily Mail article about how Kate and Camilla have allegedly leaked stories to the press about Meghan. Wonder if Camilla is grateful she is now not one of the most hated women in Britain!
So It took MM, aka Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood, to make Camilla look good? Harry has outdone himself.
 
Do we really expect this Oprah interview to be some hard hitting expose of the royal family? I imagined it was going to be mostly fluff — a look at their new home in LA, talk about their transitions into parenthood and life outside the palace gates, blah, blah, blah — peppered with a few generalized, vague mentions of the “difficulties” of royal life, dealing with the press, etc. I think it’s highly unlikely they’re going to air the royal family’s dirty laundry or offer much of anything in the way of specifics. I’ll fall off my chair if one of them says, “Well, the problems began when William cheated on Kate...” :rotfl2: It’s just not going to happen. Of course, afterwards there will be people who claim they made direct attacks on the queen, because there seems to be a certain segment who think everything H&M do is a direct attack on the queen. But to a casual observer like me, I think the palace has done themselves a disservice with all the recent insider statements and the launch of the investigation.* It’s now getting news coverage and has only made me more interested in tuning in to the H&M interview whereas previously it didn’t seem interesting enough to appeal to me.

*The palace employees deserve a safe and dignified workplace just as much as anyone, so if bullying or harassment is taking place it absolutely needs to be investigated and addressed. An investigation should have been started when the claims were first made, not covered up until now. If Meghan’s guilty of creating a hostile work environment, she’s guilty, and shame on her, regardless of when the investigation is done. To wait until now, however, makes it look like the palace’s motivations are more an attempt to smear her credibility than to maintain a healthy workplace.
Probably spot on.

But in all fairness, nobody expected Diana to look into a camera and say "There were 3 of us in this marriage".
 
It is so desperately sad and worrying that we could wake up on any morning to news that the Queen or Prince Philip, or indeed Prince Charles, given his age, have passed away, at a time when we are dealing with this frippery.
Meghan could have brought so much to the U.K., the U.S. and the Commonwealth, by performing public service as a senior member of the Royal Family, so why am I left feeling that she has done immeasurable harm to women and in particular to the reputation of American women worldwide?
Surely serving the Commonwealth as a senior member of the Royal family, and making her fellow citizens in the U.S. proud of her, should have been enough for her? She had an amazing, enviable opportunity to do altruistic good throughout the world and to make a real difference to people’s lives and she chose to throw it away. Of course, she would have had to make sacrifices; any true service, take, for example, the armed forces or the priesthood, requires an element of personal sacrifice and the greater the potential service, the greater that sacrifice has to be.
As to the lese-majesty of Prince Harry... well if only we could throw him in the dungeons of the Tower of London.
I agree, but mostly wanted to quote you to point out how much I enjoyed you bringing the word "frippery" into the conversation!
 
I have a conflict, personally, What about you, will you be watching it or recording it for posterity?
 
I'm taping it and will decide whether to watch based on the reports here.
 
I have a conflict, personally, What about you, will you be watching it or recording it for posterity?
Me? I don't watch television myself. I was just wondering since so many in this thread seem to know so much about these people that they would almost have to watch this just to stay informed. That's why I think it will be a big ratings grabber. Many people will hate watch it along with the people who hope to enjoy watching it.
 
Well its being shown in a lot of locations as per above, so uses there will be lots watching. I bet those commercial spots are going for a pretty penny.
 
So, will most of you be hate watching this so you can talk about it later?

I'm going to try and watch to see what they actually say for themselves and attempt to evaluate their credibility more thoroughly for myself. Same thing I look to when I'm considering credibility for anyone or anything. Straight from the horse's mouth is better than alleged statements given from anonymous sources that are reported ad nauseam and eventually taken as factual on the basis of having been endlessly reported.

Will Harry be asked about, what Meghan wants, Meghan gets? And what will his response be?

Will Harry be asked specifically about the tenor of his relationships and/ or sources of any conflict with William, Kate, Charles, the Queen?

Will Meghan be asked specifically about the tenor of her relationships with the same four? Will she discuss how she was welcomed, embraced, or not by the four -- and the family in general?

Will Meghan be asked about whether or not she had a dust up with Kate regarding the fitting of Charlotte's bridesmaid dress?

Will Meghan be asked about why none of her family, save her mother, attended her wedding? Additionally, will there be any questions about why there were no old school friends invited to her wedding?

Will they talk at all about the palace staff allegedly working against them? Will Meghan explain if and how palace staff, the royal family or the British people overall regarded her negatively or took a racist attitude towards her in general? I have no doubt she faced some racism, classism and nationalism. I'd like to hear any particulars she can offer about that.

ETA I'd like to know what they term unsurvivable. If much of it in fact stems back to an inability to run the show according to their preferences I'd like to see Harry in particular own up to not making darn sure his beloved knew what she was getting into and signing up for.
 
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I'm planning on turning it into a drinking game. Every time she clutches her bump? Drink. Every time Diana/mother is mentioned? Drink. Every time the words "mental health are uttered? Drink. I figure to make it about ten minutes before I'm under the table. And that may be generous.
 
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