Is Brazil closed?

[W2BNeverland]

I say we should start a marketing campaign to convince these Brazilian groups they want to go to Disneyland Paris instead. I think it would be a match made in heaven.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I say we should start a marketing campaign to convince these Brazilian groups they want to go to Disneyland Paris instead. I think it would be a match made in heaven.

Too true!

 

[calgarygary]

Just a thought, if one of the major complaints about these groups is their supposed lack of respect for others (something that we did not experience from June 28th - July 15th), how do some of the rants posted in this thread display a respect for others? On July 5th, there was an incident on Cross Country Creek where a fight broke out between 2 white teenage boys just in front of my wife and I. Should I condemn all teenagers? boys? caucasions? Americans? or maybe I should accept it as an incident that occurred that is not at all representative of a Disney trip and let it go at that.

Finally for those of you that complained that the people in the groups feigned a lack of understanding of English, just speak to them in Portugese. Come on now, don't act like you can't speak it.

 

[Shorty82]

Just a thought, if one of the major complaints about these groups is their supposed lack of respect for others (something that we did not experience from June 28th - July 15th), how do some of the rants posted in this thread display a respect for others? On July 5th, there was an incident on Cross Country Creek where a fight broke out between 2 white teenage boys just in front of my wife and I. Should I condemn all teenagers? boys? caucasions? Americans? or maybe I should accept it as an incident that occurred that is not at all representative of a Disney trip and let it go at that.

The posters in this thread were complaining about the groups, not all Brazilians. I bet most of the people in this thread have no problems with Brazilians at all but they do have a problem with large, disrespectful tour groups, the majority of which seem to come from Brazil.

Finally for those of you that complained that the people in the groups feigned a lack of understanding of English, just speak to them in Portugese. Come on now, don't act like you can't speak it.

From what I've read most of the time it really was feigning a lack of understanding, that they'd be speaking English with no problem to people up until somebody said something about their actions then they would pretend not to understand. This isn't true of all the people in these groups, I know that, but at least some of them.

 

[Marilyn Mc]

We went last July and found the Brazilian tour groups to be pretty well behaved. Much better than in years past. I hope those going in the next few weeks encounter polite tour groups.

 

[babieemelly]

Just a thought, if one of the major complaints about these groups is their supposed lack of respect for others (something that we did not experience from June 28th - July 15th), how do some of the rants posted in this thread display a respect for others? On July 5th, there was an incident on Cross Country Creek where a fight broke out between 2 white teenage boys just in front of my wife and I. Should I condemn all teenagers? boys? caucasions? Americans? or maybe I should accept it as an incident that occurred that is not at all representative of a Disney trip and let it go at that.

Finally for those of you that complained that the people in the groups feigned a lack of understanding of English, just speak to them in Portugese. Come on now, don't act like you can't speak it.

This really isn't relevant, though. If the tour groups I came upon were American then I'd say the same thing about American tour groups! Unfortunately, every single disrespectful tour group we came upon was from Brazil. I don't care where you're from... do NOT touch me. These kids thought it was OK to repeatedly touch me while in line for a ride! That's disrespect at it's fullest. I don't care if their culture says it's ok... I wouldn't care if it was the Queen of England! I don't want strangers touching me and that's the end of that.

And it's not all Brazilians! I'm sure there are a lot of well-behaved kids in the tour groups. Unfortunately, we just didn't see them. And Brazilians as a whole have nothing to do with this. I'd love to go to Brazil, it's a gorgeous and culturally amazing country!

And why would I pretend to speak Portuguese? It's a completely different story if they don't speak English, but if they're blatantly have a perfect conversation in English right behind me, the gig is up.

 

[maryg]

I have to add this. We were staying at ASMU in July a few years ago, came back to resort late, and saw the food area filled with Braziallian tour groups. The food area was closed for the night, but they weren't there for food, they were dancing. What really shocked me was that they were also dancing on the tables.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Isn't that nice--.
DianeV:
Disney tried that very thing with BRAZILAN groups a few years ago. I understand thay worked up some generic "proper behavior" guidelines and attempted to get them distributed to the folks arranging these trips.
Obviously--it had no effect.

 

[blue_eyes5212]

I still don't get the constant chanting!!

 

[Mrs. D]

Just a thought, if one of the major complaints about these groups is their supposed lack of respect for others (something that we did not experience from June 28th - July 15th), how do some of the rants posted in this thread display a respect for others? On July 5th, there was an incident on Cross Country Creek where a fight broke out between 2 white teenage boys just in front of my wife and I. Should I condemn all teenagers? boys? caucasions? Americans? or maybe I should accept it as an incident that occurred that is not at all representative of a Disney trip and let it go at that.

Finally for those of you that complained that the people in the groups feigned a lack of understanding of English, just speak to them in Portugese. Come on now, don't act like you can't speak it.

Excellent post! No one that has exhibited the behavior will ever agree, but it is what it is...you know?

 

[Lawshark]

Excellent post! No one that has exhibited the behavior will ever agree, but it is what it is...you know?

Excellent post? Why? Because it is an example of silly circular thinking and "openmindedness" to the point that your mind might fall out?

 

[DianeV]

FYI: Many might be surprised to know that in many foreign countries children learn English very young..alot of them do know English (when they want to)

No one is saying that all Brazilians are rude and no one is being rude in this thread in my opinion with their opinions. Everyone has a right to how they feel and honestly they bug me too when we are there..we are trying to avoid going in July for just that reason

Acting civilized and following rules shouldnt be a cultural thing.

 

[Lawshark]

FYI: Many might be surprised to know that in many foreign countries children learn English very young..alot of them do know English (when they want to)

No one is saying that all Brazilians are rude and no one is being rude in this thread in my opinion with their opinions. Everyone has a right to how they feel and honestly they bug me too when we are there..we are trying to avoid going in July for just that reason

Acting civilized and following rules shouldnt be a cultural thing.

Very well put. Unfortunately, some appear to "think" that if you criticize rude or inconsiderate behavior you are committing some sort of multi-culti sin.

Who exactly are the intolerant ones?

 

[Karnak]

Is it? Because there can't be many people left there.. They are all at Disney..I just picture getting to the Brazilian border and seeing a sign saying...Sorry, Brazil is closed, Gone to Walt Disney World

LOL ... great post.

I've heard of these large groups getting in line as a group. Which brings up the question ...

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A LARGE GROUP LIKE THAT ATTEMPT TO STAY TOGETHER IN ANY AMUSEMENT PARK? (Unless the group is grade-school age, or all handicapped in some way. And I doubt if that's the case with the groups being discussed here.)

Makes no sense to me at all. If I were in charge of a large group like that I would see that they all had their tickets, got into the park, and told them what time, and place we would be leaving for the day.

Then they could tour the park as they liked, probably breaking into small groups of friends.

I simply don't see the advantage of being hearded around in a large group. If I were one of the group, I would attempt to break away and see things on my own.

Karnak

 

[eyeheartgoofy]

We just got back from our July trip and there were a lot of Brazilian tour groups, but we really did not have any problems. Once, we happened upon a group entering Splash Mountain with fastpasses at the same time we were using our fastpasses - we had to wait a couple of minutes at the entrance as the backlog was admitted - but that was our only problem.

One evening, we got on our bus from DTD Marketplace to discover it full of teenage Brazilian girls heading to Pleasure Island. I was standing with my 3 year old daughter and one of the girls offered up her seat to us - then proceeded to introduce herself to my daughter and ask my daughter her name. We then had an audience of pretty girls telling me in accented English how cute my little girl was and introducing themselves ... anyone with a little girl knows how much they adore the attention of "big girls" - my daughter was in heaven with the attention. The girls were nice - not rude at all.

Anyway, I wouldn't let the possibility of tour groups stop me from visiting in July. Our small group of 4 found it pretty easy to navigate around the groups.

 

[ycnan]

LOL ... great post.

I've heard of these large groups getting in line as a group. Which brings up the question ...

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A LARGE GROUP LIKE THAT ATTEMPT TO STAY TOGETHER IN ANY AMUSEMENT PARK? (Unless the group is grade-school age, or all handicapped in some way. And I doubt if that's the case with the groups being discussed here.)

Makes no sense to me at all. If I were in charge of a large group like that I would see that they all had their tickets, got into the park, and told them what time, and place we would be leaving for the day.

Then they could tour the park as they liked, probably breaking into small groups of friends.

I simply don't see the advantage of being hearded around in a large group. If I were one of the group, I would attempt to break away and see things on my own.

Karnak

As I said earlier in the post it's what they do. My dh went to Brazil for a week (just a few weeks before we went to Disney) when they took him and the 5 people in his group to a Brazilian soccer game they had to follow the tour group leader and had the same type of flag.

Apparently it is their way of doing things.

 

[boomhauer]

I still don't get the constant chanting!!

That's what drives me nuts. It's flat out rude. I wonder what Disney would say if I ran through the parks screaming my head off bothering guests.

When these groups make their reservations, Disney should enforce 2 rules upon them that they must follow:

1.No chanting.
2.No line cutting.

I don't care if that's how they do things in Brazil. Disney World isn't in Brazil. It's in the United States.

 

[Marilyn Mc]

I don't care if that's how they do things in Brazil. Disney World isn't in Brazil. It's in the United States.

Have you ever been in line with cheerleaders? I assure you these young ladies are from the good ole' USA. The cheering didn't bother me, but boy, it sure did most other people I was in line with. So chanting is not something only Brazilian tourists do.

 

[luvthemouse71]

This really isn't relevant, though. If the tour groups I came upon were American then I'd say the same thing about American tour groups! Unfortunately, every single disrespectful tour group we came upon was from Brazil. I don't care where you're from... do NOT touch me. These kids thought it was OK to repeatedly touch me while in line for a ride! That's disrespect at it's fullest. I don't care if their culture says it's ok... I wouldn't care if it was the Queen of England! I don't want strangers touching me and that's the end of that.

And it's not all Brazilians! I'm sure there are a lot of well-behaved kids in the tour groups. Unfortunately, we just didn't see them. And Brazilians as a whole have nothing to do with this. I'd love to go to Brazil, it's a gorgeous and culturally amazing country!

And why would I pretend to speak Portuguese? It's a completely different story if they don't speak English, but if they're blatantly have a perfect conversation in English right behind me, the gig is up.

This is slightly OT, but we had an orderly at the hospital that was from Brazil. This guy was too touchy feely(would walk up to you while you were sitting down and start rubbing your thigh!) and that was his excuse. "In my culture, we aren't so uptight" I replied that in my culture, the response to someone groping me without my permission is a shot to the nuts..He stopped after that.

Most of the BTG's can speak English-I know because I had had it one day and made a snarky comment about all the singing and chanting. They understood just fine, if the dirty looks were any indication. I'm currently at work on my own chant, in case I ever suffer a head injury and decide to go to WDW when they are there..I'll post once it is finished...

 

[MickeyDee]

We saw tons of the groups last summer, but I never had a problem with them. They did start chanting, "Brazil...Brazil...Brazil" at Fantasmic, which I found really annoying, but other than that - nary a problem.