Is being gay a lifestyle choice?

JoeEpcotRocks said:
The way someone is??

If my child is choosing and immoral and self-destuctive path? -- Darn tootin' I would try to change my child.

Do you really think I would allow one of my children to head down that path?? How could I be any more irresponsible?? My wife and I would do all we could with our love and support to save our child -- and with God's help, we would succeed.

Parents with a view like this have driven their gay kids to suicide. There are many parents who tried to use religion to "change" their gay children before learning the error of their ways. By then it was too late...
 
JoeEpcotRocks - The fact that you feel it is ok to judge others is just disturbing. It isn't your or anyone else's place to tell people how to live their lives, or that they are being immoral. Those kind of judgements should be left to God. Judge not lest ye be judged.
 
Miss Jasmine said:
No! And my reasoning is...for those who are heterosexual...could you make yourself be with someone of the same sex?


Some heterosexuals do that. They're called bi-sexuals.
 
Almost forgot.Joe,You know you are sinning yourself by judging people.There is no diffrence between sins,a murderer can be forgiven the same as someone who judges people.
 

luvindisneyworld said:
God Loves everyone.White,Black, Orange,Straight,or Gay.We are all Gods children.

Yes He does and yes we are. :sunny:

And He helps us to make wise choices thru his Word. He's the best.
 
I believe a bit part of the population are bi. As to being gay/lesbian... I can only imagine how hard it must be for that individual to have to hide who they really are.

Linda I am so pleased or you and the fact that your parents have acepted you for who are you and also your partner. I can well imagine the shock when they first found out, but it is lovely that they have been able to accept it.

I know somone who maybe gay......but not yet doing anything about it. They have shown signs of it, but have not yet come out about it. I don't even know for sure that they are, but maybe in a couple of years or so they will know for themsleves just what it is. They could even be bi as they are attacted to the opposite sex to a certain extent as well.

But I do believe it is just who are you, not something you choose to be. It is a very personal thing and not something for others to sit in judgment on.
 
LukenDC said:
Parents with a view like this have driven their gay kids to suicide. There are many parents who tried to use religion to "change" their gay children before learning the error of their ways. By then it was too late...
ITA.It is so sad too.
 
luvindisneyworld said:
Almost forgot.Joe,You know you are sinning yourself by judging people.There is no diffrence between sins,a murderer can be forgiven the same as someone who judges people.

If you disagree, call it "judging." :rolleyes:
 
I would definetly say that trying to change someone that is gay is definetly judging.
 
LukenDC said:
Parents with a view like this have driven their gay kids to suicide. There are many parents who tried to use religion to "change" their gay children before learning the error of their ways. By then it was too late...

Yes, parents use God's ways to guide their children. Not an error. We must watch over our children's hearts with all diligence. :sunny:
 
tworkit said:
No Jesus wasn't natural, he was God incarnate. Sorry to blow your argument!

He was sent by his father to live among us. But he didn't live like us, nor does a homosexual live like you. You spurn them. Go read up on the Pharasees ... see what Jesus thought about bigotry and spurning.
 
Caradana said:
He was sent by his father to live among us. But he didn't live like us, nor does a homosexual live like you. You spurn them. Go read up on the Pharasees ... see what Jesus thought about bigotry and spurning.

Jesus strictly did the will of the Father with love. He helped them, healed them, and told them to sin no more. When He told them to sin no more, they didn't call Jesus a bigot. The Pharasees were the ones who would not repent (change their ways).

Jesus did spurn those who refused to accept Him or His Words.
 
OK,I am going to agree to Disagree. :thumbsup2

All I know is thatI Love everyone and thats all I care about :grouphug:
 
Actually, bisexuals are not heterosexuals that are "choosing" to be with someone of the same sex. They are individuals who are attracted to both the same sex and the opposite sex.

bisexual - A person capable of romantic and sexual attraction towards a partner of either gender.
 
JoeEpcotRocks said:
The way someone is??

If my child is choosing and immoral and self-destuctive path? -- Darn tootin' I would try to change my child.

Do you really think I would allow one of my children to head down that path?? How could I be any more irresponsible?? My wife and I would do all we could with our love and support to save our child -- and with God's help, we would succeed.

(Emphasis mine)

By promoting hatred, prejudice and bigotry. That's a start.

I see you like to use the Word of God to justify a lot of your beliefs. I also see that you readily dismiss and make fun of gays/lesbians/bisexuals with the good ol' :rolleyes: . If I remember my Bible correctly, it is said that God once sent bears to maul children who are making fun of a bald man. (2 Kings 2:23-24--had to look it up). I'm just wondering how you rationalize your ridicule towards these groups? I can't believe the God we call Our *Father* appreciates the mocking of *any* of His children.
 
Caradana said:
Was Jesus natural? As far as we know, he never had sex with anyone.

Actually, that proves Goofygirl's point that it is a choice when it comes to acting on our feelings of attractiveness. He was human, so I am sure he probably had some attractions. But He chose not to act on them.

I do think that who we have feelings for is not a choice. But it is a choice when it comes to what we do about it. Sexuality IS natural, but that doesn't mean it controls us. I am heterosexual, and I do make a choice not to have relations with everyone I find attractive....

So I do actually think technically it is a little of both. Homosexuality, as defined as who you are attracted to, is, I believe, something that you do not have control over. But what you do about it, yes, that is a choice, just as it is for heterosexuals. If I chose to sleep with someone other than my husband, I don't think there would be much argument that it was a choice I made, and I "lifestyle" that I picked. If I had chosen to remain a virgin my whole life, the same could be said.
 
Aidensmom said:
Actually, that proves Goofygirl's point that it is a choice when it comes to acting on our feelings of attractiveness. He was human, so I am sure he probably had some attractions. But He chose not to act on them.

I do think that who we have feelings for is not a choice. But it is a choice when it comes to what we do about it. Sexuality IS natural, but that doesn't mean it controls us. I am heterosexual, and I do make a choice not to have relations with everyone I find attractive....

So I do actually think technically it is a little of both. Homosexuality, as defined as who you are attracted to, is, I believe, something that you do not have control over. But what you do about it, yes, that is a choice, just as it is for heterosexuals. If I chose to sleep with someone other than my husband, I don't think there would be much argument that it was a choice I made, and I "lifestyle" that I picked. If I had chosen to remain a virgin my whole life, the same could be said.

EXCELLENT post!!!! ITA! ::yes:: ::yes::
 
JoeEpcotRocks said:
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Do you really think I would allow one of my children to head down that path?? How could I be any more irresponsible?? My wife and I would do all we could with our love and support to save our child -- and with God's help, we would succeed.

Wouldn't be your choice. So I guess it would be worth it to you to lose you child. Very sad. :sad2:

I'm not saying that you wouldn't have the right to feel upset, however, that's different than trying to change who they are. Or disowning them if they didn't "change" (ie, deny who they are or pretend to change), which I'm assuming that you would do if they didn't change since you consider "letting" heading down that path irreponsible. Likely what would happen is that they just wouldn't come out of the closet to you and you would choose to keep your head in the sand, not really wanting to know what you suspect to be true.

Maybe I missed the memo, but do you have children?
 

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