In your opinion...what does "No Overnight Parking" mean?

[MaryAnnDVC]

Same here.

Would you like that in Disney dollars?

A poll on this thread would be a riot!

Is there any other dollar??

Let's see...what would a poll be? (Choose as many answers as you'd like.)

1) Was the "No Overnight Parking" sign clear?
2) Does it MATTER that it wasn't clear?
3) Should my DS's car had gotten towed?
4) Is my DS lazy and stupid?
5) Should DS repeat his senior year in HS since he's obviously learned NOTHING?
6) Should I take away his keys/car/bed/food/oxygen until he learns where to park a car?
7) Should DS fight the parking lot owner, the tow truck operator, the police, his friends who told him to park there, and us for being negligent parents who didn't teach him the rules of car parking?
8) Should DS's passport be designated "Refuse entry to Germany...cannot make car parking decisions"?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Doesn't anyone go out to dinner or anything like that?

Apparently Providence is a ghost town after 6 PM. Not the Providence that *I've* seen.

 

[5lilfish]

Fight what? The towing charge? The car was towed. There are charges connected with that - charges the car owner has to pay to get it back. The car owner (well, driver) did pay and did get the car back. Case closed. Even the Law Professor says so.

The private parking lot owner has an agreement with the tow company to - apparently - tow cars that are parked there at/after a certain time of night. The "No Overnight Parking" sign is considered sufficient warning by the lot owner, the tow company, the police (who were involved only in that they got a report from the tow company, likely so they don't send out an officer to investigate a not-actually-stolen car), and the law professor. MidnIght is a reasonable time to presume any vehicle parked there is violating or ignoring the sign.

Again, nothing to fight. Car towed, tow charge paid, car returned.

if i were to fight it legally, which I would not because it isn't worth $137, I'd sue the lot owner (to get the $137 back) that has a contract with the towing company. Their sign is ambiguous and I do not think that midnight is a reasonable time to presume a vehicle parked there is violating the sign (parking overnight).

Jess

 

[OceanAnnie]

Is there any other dollar??

Let's see...what would a poll be? (Choose as many answers as you'd like.)

1) Was the "No Overnight Parking" sign clear?
2) Does it MATTER that it wasn't clear?
3) Should my DS's car had gotten towed?
4) Is my DS lazy and stupid?
5) Should DS repeat his senior year in HS since he's obviously learned NOTHING?
6) Should I take away his keys/car/bed/food/oxygen until he learns where to park a car?
7) Should DS fight the parking lot owner, the tow truck operator, the police, his friends who told him to park there, and us for being negligent parents who didn't teach him the rules of car parking?
8) Should DS's passport be designated "Refuse entry to Germany...cannot make car parking decisions"?

I vote no, not clear.

Also, "no" to refuse entry to Germany. Whether he parks according to "simple directions" or not, they like our dollars so he should be welcomed as a tourist. But you never know.

 

[allison443]

lets not forget Providence is broke and is trying to rack up any kind of income they can. I am sure they have tow operators just lurking for the clock to strike 12 so they can tow cars. I got a ticket for parking on the side of the street while going to the hairdresser. The sign was on the other side of the street, there were no signs on the side I parked when I came out, 25.00 ticket. Providence is bad with ticketing.... they lurk around the hospitals, courts, and downtown all the time looking for expired meters etc... Another one they are famous for is the 2 hr parking, they don't put the signs all the way down the street so it looks like your safe but nope, they ticket you. My husband works at the state house. In the winter they don't plow the employee lot good enough and there is no parking ( there is no parking on a good day, with people working at the mall parking there). So the employees were forced to park along the street.. guess what, they towed about 100 employee's cars for parking over the 2 hr limit where there were no signs.... Have to love Providence.....

The money OP's son paid didn't go to Providence...he was parked in a private parking lot, not on the street, and he didn't get a ticket

 

[krcit]

The money OP's son paid didn't go to Providence...he was parked in a private parking lot, not on the street, and he didn't get a ticket

Could you please stop confusing everyone with the facts.

 

[Imzadi]

To me, that was not overnight parking.

Where is your logic for this? The cops do not have to babysit and notate the length of time a car has been there. If it is found there during the hours they have ruled t is "overnight" then it is overnight.

 

[Missy1961]

Is there any other dollar??

Let's see...what would a poll be? (Choose as many answers as you'd like.)

1) Was the "No Overnight Parking" sign clear?
2) Does it MATTER that it wasn't clear?
3) Should my DS's car had gotten towed?
4) Is my DS lazy and stupid?
5) Should DS repeat his senior year in HS since he's obviously learned NOTHING?
6) Should I take away his keys/car/bed/food/oxygen until he learns where to park a car?
7) Should DS fight the parking lot owner, the tow truck operator, the police, his friends who told him to park there, and us for being negligent parents who didn't teach him the rules of car parking?
8) Should DS's passport be designated "Refuse entry to Germany...cannot make car parking decisions"?

 

[Ceila]

Where is your logic for this? The cops do not have to babysit and notate the length of time a car has been there. If it is found there during the hours they have ruled t is "overnight" then it is overnight.

But the problem is that it was a private lot and there was no clear indication of what those hours were. Plus, in some towns, "overnight" means different things, as evidenced by the various posts on this thread. There are many places around here that use it to refer to not leaving a vehicle for the duration of the night - in these cases, the length of time DOES matter. I think it's ridiculous that the lot owner expects people to be able to read his/her mind as to what exactly they meant by "overnight," since it can obviously be interpreted in more than one way. Please remember that just because you interpret it to mean what you posted above does not mean that it is the only correct way.

 

[Imzadi]

But the problem is that it was a private lot and there was no clear indication of what those hours were. Plus, in some towns, "overnight" means different things, as evidenced by the various posts on this thread. There are many places around here that use it to refer to not leaving a vehicle for the duration of the night - in these cases, the length of time DOES matter. I think it's ridiculous that the lot owner expects people to be able to read his/her mind as to what exactly they meant by "overnight," since it can obviously be interpreted in more than one way. Please remember that just because you interpret it to mean what you posted above does not mean that it is the only correct way.

Was the lot CLOSED? At the moment the owner closes the lot, then the owner has a right to consider the car as being left overnight. It is AFTER the end of his business day. (He should have had his business hours posted.) He doesn't have to sit there all night to decide the car is going to be there overnight.

As far as if the car being left on the street, in all the towns & cities I've lived in, if you leave a car there during the specific time of the town's ordinances for "overnight," the cops can ticket the car. It doesn't matter if it is there for two minutes, two hours or 6 hours. No Parking is NO Parking. If the engine is turned off and there is no one sitting in the car, the car is parked. This is not open for interpretation. This is in the DMV manual. Length of time doesn't matter. The car is there at the wrong time. Period. The police do NOT have to come back hours later to see, "Yes, the car has been here overnight." Some people are trying to rationalize the ridiculous. That's like a cop seeing someone pull out a knife on someone and having to WAIT to see if the person actually stabs into someone before saying it's an actual assault or an attempted murder.

 

[kaytieeldr]

But I think it's highly amusing how long this thread is! When I started it, I wondered if anyone would have anything to say!

Really? You wondered that? Here???

Um...thanks! Glad I could provide some entertainment. Now, if everyone on this thread sends DS a dollar "entertainment fee", it sure would be helpful!

Hey, I'm in for $5 - cash!

 

[Planogirl]

Are you all still talking about a sign? Really?

 

[kaytieeldr]

But the problem is that it was a private lot and there was no clear indication of what those hours were. Plus, in some towns, "overnight" means different things

it being a private lot is the key. There doesn't have to be any indication of what the owner means by 'overnight'. He/she is being really generous by letting anyone park there when the business is closed.

It's his lot. He can set the rules. If there's any ambiguity, it's the responsibility of the person technically trespassing to err on the side of caution. What would any of you do if somebody parked in your driveway, sign or no sign? Would you wait around for several hours for the driver to return?

Well, instead of guarding the lot him/her self, the lot owner has the tow company do it - after a reasonable time (or amount of time has passed). It's entirely possible the tow company does regular drive-bys and notes the vehicles that are parked there, and after X hours the owner's determination of 'overnight' kicks in.

It really doesn't matter what time various towns, villages, cities, etc. consider 'overnight' for parking purposes when it comes to private property.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Are you all still talking about a sign? Really?

What do you expect us to talk about? Current events? Television shows? Music? Walt Disney World?

 

[Ceila]

Was the lot CLOSED? At the moment the owner closes the lot, then the owner has a right to consider the car as being left overnight. It is AFTER the end of his business day. (He should have had his business hours posted.) He doesn't have to sit there all night to decide the car is going to be there overnight.

As far as if the car being left on the street, in all the towns & cities I've lived in, if you leave a car there during the specific time of the town's ordinances for "overnight," the cops can ticket the car. It doesn't matter if it is there for two minutes, two hours or 6 hours. No Parking is NO Parking. If the engine is turned off and there is no one sitting in the car, the car is parked. This is not open for interpretation. This is in the DMV manual. Length of time doesn't matter. The car is there at the wrong time. Period. The police do NOT have to come back hours later to see, "Yes, the car has been here overnight." Some people are trying to rationalize the ridiculous. That's like a cop seeing someone pull out a knife on someone and having to WAIT to see if the person actually stabs into someone before saying it's an actual assault or an attempted murder.

Look, you obviously only want to believe your own interpretation. Many people have posted that things are different in other cities, but you don't want to listen to anyone else. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Have a nice night.

 

[Ceila]

it being a private lot is the key. There doesn't have to be any indication of what the owner means by 'overnight'. He/she is being really generous by letting anyone park there when the business is closed.

It's his lot. He can set the rules. If there's any ambiguity, it's the responsibility of the person technically trespassing to err on the side of caution. What would any of you do if somebody parked in your driveway, sign or no sign? Would you wait around for several hours for the driver to return?

Well, instead of guarding the lot him/her self, the lot owner has the tow company do it - after a reasonable time (or amount of time has passed). It's entirely possible the tow company does regular drive-bys and notes the vehicles that are parked there, and after X hours the owner's determination of 'overnight' kicks in.

It really doesn't matter what time various towns, villages, cities, etc. consider 'overnight' for parking purposes when it comes to private property.

Actually, by posting that parking is not permitted overnight, the owner is implicitly giving permission for vehicles to be parked there non-overnight. The problem is that the term overnight has different meanings to different people. As the OP said, it was a lesson learned.

 

[Planogirl]

What do you expect us to talk about? Current events? Television shows? Music? Walt Disney World?

I love it.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Look, you obviously only want to believe your own interpretation. Many people have posted that things are different in other cities, but you don't want to listen to anyone else. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Have a nice night.

You have a nice night too. And you get a gold star, some , and a free tow for reading through that post.

Really? You wondered that? Here???

Hey, I'm in for $5 - cash!

I lost my head for a minute! Have been focused on the Casey Anthony thread, and had no idea that my DS's crime would generate so much interest! Meet you in WDW to collect on that $5.

Are you all still talking about a sign? Really?

Not me anymore! I'm done! LOL I've been out tonight and forgot this thread existed, and lo and behold, there it was again! It's like "The Thing That Wouldn't Leave!"

 

[kaytieeldr]

I lost my head for a minute! Have been focused on the Casey Anthony thread, and had no idea that my DS's crime would generate so much interest! Meet you in WDW to collect on that $5.

Well, there you go. You're part of the problem There's no crime here. He made an error in judgment, followed by handling the problem in a very mature manner. He took full responsibility for getting the car back and he told you what happened. You're doing an excellent job of raising a kid who's not going to commit a crime and who, if he has a problem or needs advice, is comfortable talking to you

About that $5... I have no vacation budget this year. Is there any chance you'd be going to see Toby Keith in Mansfield in September?

 

[Buckalew11]

The thread has a name...I'll call it "Joan."