I'm watching "Kate Plus Eight"....

[ferris198]

She just said yeah sad the show is over, I'm unemployed !

 

[EveDallas]

Ok, I watched off and on - it was mostly boring (old clips and whatnot), and then I heard Stevie talking about couples watching Jon and Kate. He said something to the effect of -

"Wives would turn to their husbands and say 'I'm not that bad' and husbands would turn to their wives and say 'Well, I'm nowhere near that useless'".

My jaw damn near hit the floor. I couldn't believe he actually called Jon useless on national TV. Maybe he really has been sipping some of Kate's Kool-Aid.

 

[brittsmum1998]

I thought Jon in all of his imperfections was wonderful with the kids. He was / is ? a hands on Dad who wants his kids to enjoy themselves. I certainly wouldn't say thats useless.

To the pp who was worried about the kids seeing these "horrible" things being said on the internet, I wonder what the kids have heard Steve & Kate say about their dad.

 

[Geoff_M]

My jaw damn near hit the floor. I couldn't believe he actually called Jon useless on national TV. Maybe he really has been sipping some of Kate's Kool-Aid.

That was my initial reaction too, but my wife pointed that he threw them both under the bus with those comments.

The finale was moderately interesting. It was interesting to hear Jamie and Ashley's post-RV trip comments... and how they did (or should I say "didn't") mesh with Kate's. Kate say she's apologized and they've all (Steve too), talked, kissed, and made up and she still loves them all (though she got an added dig in on Ashley for being a drama queen during the "DISGUSTING!!! pizza incident"). However, Ashley made it very clear that things are far from "over", Kate's conversation with her was only small talk, and when asked about Kate saying they'd worked things out Ashley got a good one in about Kate's making stuff up to fit her desired viewpoint.

Kate was given ample time to make her case that the film company's editors just like to use the "bad" stuff she does. Perhaps, but Kate, if you wouldn't give them so much "over-the-top" material to work with, they'd be forced to show something else! It's not JUST the editing. Ashley didn't flip her a verbal bird and leave the kids in tears because of editing... and she wasn't the first person to leave in a huff, as Kate so pointedly noted. Jamie also made a telling observation on how much Kate's persona changed after she went all "Hollywood".

I also don't fully buy her "I just realized one day that Jon had departed the path we were on as parents and a married couple and decided to go his own way" meme. To be sure, Jon made some inexcusably stupid moves, but I also think that he was to a certain degree "elbowed" off the harmonious path. After having so many coals heaped on one's head by their "partner", it's tempting to just stop trying and withdraw. Do I think they might have still gotten divorced if they'd never been on TV? I don't know. Do I think the show caused the divorce? No.... but I think it made a great catalyst for the split.

As for the now "unemployed" Kate... I hate to say it, but I think your 15 minutes are pretty much up. Oh, there may be a "Where are they now?" show somewhere down the line, but I just don't see any really TV options left. Seeing as how book sales have dried up, I don't think there's much of an audience for what she has to say. I can't see her acting. The RV trip did the perception of her smarts no good (at least in terms of Earth Sciences and history)... and she may be cute, but I think her hawking of Hannah to The Disney Channel is a pretty long-shot.

I personally wish her well... and I pray that my fears about the challenges her kids may face as wrong. But if nothing else, they can sell the mansion and acreage, buy a nice home in an nice place (like their last one), and have a lot of money left over to live on while Kate works at a "mediocre" job like the rest of us have. The Paparazzi will stop caring and go chase someone else... and with the TV crew gone, people will actually start no longer stopping and staring when they go out in public and no longer whip out those infernal cell phone cameras for a quick snap and then an e-mail to TMZ.

So, the show's over... about a couple of years too late. Hip-hip-hurray! Amen. The End.

 

[tink1969]

I'm just watching now.....haven't watched any of the Kate Plus Eight shows.
I can't believe how rude and ignorant she is. Kate is such a diva and extremely anal.. The way she treats and speaks to other people is unbelievable! But that is the way she was with Jon too.
I am so glad that TLC has cancelled her show. I hope that is last we see of her. Kate's 15 minutes were up a long time ago!

 

[DMRick]

Well written. While I don't agree with all you said, I do like the style in which you wrote it. It was written with class, instead of hate.

I do think your last full paragraph will eventually come to fruitation..I just don't think that will be quite yet. I think 12 of her 15 are over (if you go back 2 years to one of these threads, they thought the 15 was over then too LOL), but I do believe she is going to give it her best, to land some sort of show. If people want to believe it or not, she does have people who still want to see her. I won't watch another show with just her, but I think both the followers and haters will.

That was my initial reaction too, but my wife pointed that he threw them both under the bus with those comments.

The finale was moderately interesting. It was interesting to hear Jamie and Ashley's post-RV trip comments... and how they did (or should I say "didn't") mesh with Kate's. Kate say she's apologized and they've all (Steve too), talked, kissed, and made up and she still loves them all (though she got an added dig in on Ashley for being a drama queen during the "DISGUSTING!!! pizza incident"). However, Ashley made it very clear that things are far from "over", Kate's conversation with her was only small talk, and when asked about Kate saying they'd worked things out Ashley got a good one in about Kate's making stuff up to fit her desired viewpoint.

Kate was given ample time to make her case that the film company's editors just like to use the "bad" stuff she does. Perhaps, but Kate, if you wouldn't give them so much "over-the-top" material to work with, they'd be forced to show something else! It's not JUST the editing. Ashley didn't flip her a verbal bird and leave the kids in tears because of editing... and she wasn't the first person to leave in a huff, as Kate so pointedly noted. Jamie also made a telling observation on how much Kate's persona changed after she went all "Hollywood".

I also don't fully buy her "I just realized one day that Jon had departed the path we were on as parents and a married couple and decided to go his own way" meme. To be sure, Jon made some inexcusably stupid moves, but I also think that he was to a certain degree "elbowed" off the harmonious path. After having so many coals heaped on one's head by their "partner", it's tempting to just stop trying and withdraw. Do I think they might have still gotten divorced if they'd never been on TV? I don't know. Do I think the show caused the divorce? No.... but I think it made a great catalyst for the split.

As for the now "unemployed" Kate... I hate to say it, but I think your 15 minutes are pretty much up. Oh, there may be a "Where are they now?" show somewhere down the line, but I just don't see any really TV options left. Seeing as how book sales have dried up, I don't think there's much of an audience for what she has to say. I can't see her acting. The RV trip did the perception of her smarts no good (at least in terms of Earth Sciences and history)... and she may be cute, but I think her hawking of Hannah to The Disney Channel is a pretty long-shot.

I personally wish her well... and I pray that my fears about the challenges her kids may face as wrong. But if nothing else, they can sell the mansion and acreage, buy a nice home in an nice place (like their last one), and have a lot of money left over to live on while Kate works at a "mediocre" job like the rest of us have. The Paparazzi will stop caring and go chase someone else... and with the TV crew gone, people will actually start no longer stopping and staring when they go out in public and no longer whip out those infernal cell phone cameras for a quick snap and then an e-mail to TMZ.

So, the show's over... about a couple of years too late. Hip-hip-hurray! Amen. The End.

 

[Wadecool]

That was my initial reaction too, but my wife pointed that he threw them both under the bus with those comments.

The finale was moderately interesting. It was interesting to hear Jamie and Ashley's post-RV trip comments... and how they did (or should I say "didn't") mesh with Kate's. Kate say she's apologized and they've all (Steve too), talked, kissed, and made up and she still loves them all (though she got an added dig in on Ashley for being a drama queen during the "DISGUSTING!!! pizza incident"). However, Ashley made it very clear that things are far from "over", Kate's conversation with her was only small talk, and when asked about Kate saying they'd worked things out Ashley got a good one in about Kate's making stuff up to fit her desired viewpoint.

Kate was given ample time to make her case that the film company's editors just like to use the "bad" stuff she does. Perhaps, but Kate, if you wouldn't
give them so much "over-the-top" material to work with, they'd be forced to show something else! It's not JUST the editing. Ashley didn't flip her a verbal bird and leave the kids in tears because of editing... and she wasn't the first person to leave in a huff, as Kate so pointedly noted. Jamie also made a telling observation on how much Kate's persona changed after she went all "Hollywood".

I also don't fully buy her "I just realized one day that Jon had departed the path we were on as parents and a married couple and decided to go his own way" meme. To be sure, Jon made some inexcusably stupid moves, but I also think that he was to a certain degree "elbowed" off the harmonious path. After having so many coals heaped on one's head by their "partner", it's tempting to just stop trying and withdraw. Do I think they might have still gotten divorced if they'd never been on TV? I don't know. Do I think the show caused the
divorce? No.... but I think it made a great catalyst for the split.

As for the now "unemployed" Kate... I hate to say it, but I think your 15 minutes are pretty much up. Oh, there may be a "Where are they now?" show somewhere down the line, but I just don't see any really TV options left. Seeing as how book sales have dried up, I don't think there's much of an audience for what she has to say. I can't see her acting. The RV trip did the
perception of her smarts no good (at least in terms of Earth Sciences and history)... and she may be cute, but I think her hawking of Hannah to The Disney Channel is a pretty long-shot.

I personally wish her well... and I pray that my fears about the challenges her kids may face as wrong. But if nothing else, they can sell the mansion and acreage, buy a nice home in an nice place (like their last one), and have a lot of money left over to live on while Kate works at a "mediocre" job like the rest of us have. The Paparazzi will stop caring and go chase someone else... and with the TV crew gone, people will actually start no longer stopping and staring when they go out in public and no longer whip out those infernal cell phone cameras for a quick snap and then an e-mail to TMZ.

So, the show's over... about a couple of years too late. Hip-hip-hurray! Amen. The End.

I agree that the part in bold is the most likely scenario.

As to the lart sentence: Hooray! No more Kate Gosselin is a great thing for sure!

 

[kmedina]

It was interesting to hear what everyone had to say. They usually only interviewed Kate and the kids in the past. I agree that Steve's comment seemed equally negative about Jon and Kate. He never actually said he felt that way but rather said viewers do. Since I never believed he and Kate were in a relationship, I wonder if he is a "viewer" that feels that way about her though.

Ashley seems sincere in saying she and Kate have not really discussed much or worked through issues. If Kate really thinks they did, that may be part of her problem.

I wish them all the best and hope the kids (who my son loved watching) do not suffer from the affects of being filmed all that time. Kate always says the show did not tear her and Jon apart, and it would have happened anyway. She is probably right. The show seemed to bring out more of who Jon and Kate already were (bossy for Kate and inassertive for Jon), but neither really changed through the process. At times, they played nice for the cameras, but let their true selves out under stressful situations. As hard as it may seem to believe, I think they both have good qualities to go along with their bad ones (as most human beings do).

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Hand the kids over to Jon? Like that would ever happen. He'd poke his own eyes out with a stick before he'd take all those kids on a 24/7 deal. When would he get to party?

I'm not sure which one is more reprehensible. Mom, with her brattitude and entitlement issues or Dad, with his slugatude and entitlement issues.

Those kids lose either way. I think the babysitter should get them.

 

[Poohforyou]

I'm not sure what you meanb..her followers have nothing to do with her blocking you, and why wouldn't anyone block people who hate them and say horrible things..doesn't matter if the things are true or not, I can understand blocking people who hated me.

I'm also not sure what the rabid followers are. Are they the same as the rabid haters? I don't follow either her website or her twitters, but yet, the haters seem to. I don't get why. I wouldn't give the time of day to soemone if I hated them.

The people who dislike her, like me, but occasionally watch the show contribute to her bottom line just like the people who adore her. The bottom line is Kate put herself out there and she should man up and except the good with the bad.

The rabid followers are those who justify everything Kate says and does.

I watched last night because I wanted to see the kids and hear the dirt those who worked for her spilled. Of course Kate was her usual nasty self. She lacks self awarness. Most people who constantly have others walk out of their life eventually look within themselves for a reason. It's been 6 years of this and Kate has yet to see herself as the problem.

 

[Mickey'sMainMami]

I stopped watching the show a couple of years ago, right after they moved into their big home. I couldn't stomach her anymore, and I refuse to put money in her pocket by watching and giving her ratings. I hope she doesn't get another job on air, I mean, I don't like her and I don't care what she has to say about anything. I for one will NEVER watch anything again with her on it, in it or about her.

 

[daughtersrus]

She just said yeah sad the show is over, I'm unemployed !

Is she going to go sign up for unemployment now

 

[JaxJags08]

Watching that show with her talking and talking was just painful. The phrase word vomit comes to mind. No way would she work as a host for anything longer than a season. Who wants to listen to that?

Did anyone notice how she takes credit for so many things in the show, too? Like she had to think of how to set up the finale for fans? Yeah, I'm sure she personally edited the show.

Kate always says the show did not tear her and Jon apart, and it would have happened anyway. She is probably right. The show seemed to bring out more of who Jon and Kate already were (bossy for Kate and inassertive for Jon), but neither really changed through the process. At times, they played nice for the cameras, but let their true selves out under stressful situations. As hard as it may seem to believe, I think they both have good qualities to go along with their bad ones (as most human beings do).

Totally agree. Just watching their relationship, I don't think they would have lasted. But I definitely think it would have lasted longer had they not experienced fame.

Hand the kids over to Jon? Like that would ever happen. He'd poke his own eyes out with a stick before he'd take all those kids on a 24/7 deal. When would he get to party?

I'm not sure which one is more reprehensible. Mom, with her brattitude and entitlement issues or Dad, with his slugatude and entitlement issues.

Those kids lose either way. I think the babysitter should get them.

Sadly, I agree that he wouldn't want them 24/7 - but I don't think Kate does either...and it seems that she's been out partying way more than him these days. Jon made mistakes, but what makes him a slug and entitled? If anything he was just spineless. He seemed to just snap under all of the pressure. Before they started filming and even after, he was still going to work everyday to support the family financially. I doubt Kate appreciated it and found it too mediocre then...I mean if she has said all of this on tv, imagine the stuff she called him in private.

Jamie also made a telling observation on how much Kate's persona changed after she went all "Hollywood".

Jamie's observation was sad and confirms what I believed she is - fame hungry, money hungry and in this for herself. She just uses those kids as an excuse. I saw her on twitter say something like - how many nurses have 8 children? I'm sure quite a few do and make it work.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Ding Dong the Witch is Gone!!!!!

 

[Jeafl]

I went on her new website and people must have been asking her about it because she posted about how as the mother of 8 she could not have a normal job. My neighbor has 7 kids, one is a child with special needs and 1 is little and not in school ye and she works as does her husband. They pay for after school care for the kids, ask neighbors and friends for favors, pay for daycare for their baby and live a FRUGAL LIFE to make ends meet.

It absolutely can be done - just like the rest of us poor saps do it - she just does not want to do it.

I agree. I know a mom with 8 kids, and she is one of the most laid back people I know. I think Kate would be totally stressed out even if she only had 2 kids. She just has that kind of personality. She is a type A, anal retentive, bordering on OCD kind of person, and having that many kids just magnifies it.

I also think that she secretly likes all the paparazzi and attention she gets out in public, and that she will miss it if it should stop.

It can't be good for those kids to be around a parent who is constantly stressed and constantly complaining. She made it look like she is the only person in the world who ever had to plan and execute a birthday party for her kids. Newsflash to Kate--people do it everyday. They also do it without the benefit of the resources she has. They cook their own food, bake their own cake, and plant their own landscaping. They may not do it on such a grand scale, but something tells me the kids would have had just as much fun with a normal party.

I thought it was very telling when Kate said "Everybody walks away eventually" or something like that. She then followed it up by saying "And I can't" or something like that. She gave me the impression that she feels trapped. How nice for her kids to hear THAT.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

I agree. I know a mom with 8 kids, and she is one of the most laid back people I know. I think Kate would be totally stressed out even if she only had 2 kids. She just has that kind of personality. She is a type A, anal retentive, bordering on OCD kind of person, and having that many kids just magnifies it.

I also think that she secretly likes all the paparazzi and attention she gets out in public, and that she will miss it if it should stop.

It can't be good for those kids to be around a parent who is constantly stressed and constantly complaining. She made it look like she is the only person in the world who ever had to plan and execute a birthday party for her kids. Newsflash to Kate--people do it everyday. They also do it without the benefit of the resources she has. They cook their own food, bake their own cake, and plant their own landscaping. They may not do it on such a grand scale, but something tells me the kids would have had just as much fun with a normal party.

I thought it was very telling when Kate said "Everybody walks away eventually" or something like that. She then followed it up by saying "And I can't" or something like that. She gave me the impression that she feels trapped. How nice for her kids to hear THAT.

Exactly. She is delusional. People walk away from HER not from the kids. There are people all over that manage more than she does with less help and let's face it at the ages they are now it's not as big of a deal as she is making it out to be. It was much worse when they were babies and were 100% reliant on others and BEFORE they were "stars".

The kids are not the issue. The # of kids is not the issue. The ammount of work involved to take care of those kids is not the issue. It's her. She will never get that.

 

[Disneynut5]

I honestly think that kate's biggest problem is that is feels that she found a CAREER in TV. This started out just filming their "normal" life and ended with it being her "job" and "career." She likes the job of being a TV personality - getting her make-up and hair done, being treated special, the travel, the perks, the control, the pay, etc. TLC should never have let this happen. They did this to the Roloffs too - but not to this extent.

TV is not and should not be her career. She needs to go back to finding herself without the cameras around and all of the above. I hope no TV outlet out there gives her the time of day. Kate being a TV personality has been and will always be destructive for her and her kids because of the way she chooses to handle it.

Reality TV needs to be run differently -they need to film reality and then give people the money after all the filming is done and over for good. This way the people will not be transformed from real to TV personalities/rich people before our eyes. The reasons we all started watching Kate and Jon was for the reality of everyday life - what we ended up with was watching celebrity. So sad...

 

[DWGal210]

I also get sick of the "papparazzi hating" from Kate. Sweetie, if they didn't take your picture, it would mean your 15 minutes of fame is over. While I dont agree with paps chasing you down unsafely or climbing over fences, they fuel her "career". No pictures = no one cares, and we can't have that can we??

 

[mom2rtk]

I also get sick of the "papparazzi hating" from Kate. Sweetie, if they didn't take your picture, it would mean your 15 minutes of fame is over. While I dont agree with paps chasing you down unsafely or climbing over fences, they fuel her "career". No pictures = no one cares, and we can't have that can we??

Don't you want to be a fly on the wall the first time she walks past the papparazzi and they DON'T take her photo? Man, it'll be worse than melting ice cream in the Magic Kingdom...........

My daughter and I put on that MK episode last night (Hit the Road) and watched it. She had her problems back then (what control freak with 8 kids including 6 toddlers wouldn't? ) but we saw enough glimpses of her loving nature to offset all of that. Once she got stars in her eyes that loving side seemed to disappear. And it's so sad.

The comments last night from her friend who knew her back before the stars were spot on. The best thing that could happen for Kate and the kids would be for the papparazzi to disappear.

 

[Geoff_M]

I do think your last full paragraph will eventually come to fruitation..I just don't think that will be quite yet. I think 12 of her 15 are over (if you go back 2 years to one of these threads, they thought the 15 was over then too LOL), but I do believe she is going to give it her best, to land some sort of show. If people want to believe it or not, she does have people who still want to see her. I won't watch another show with just her, but I think both the followers and haters will.

Thanks for the comments.

I have no doubt that Kate will desperately try and find another show, but other than doing one more round of some talk shows about the end of her show, I'm just not seeing it. She filmed the pilot for the "Kate Tries Some Mediocre Jobs" series idea, but the networks passed. Yes, she was on DWTS, but that show already had excellent ratings on its own (before and after). I didn't watch any of it, but I understand that Kate didn't exactly Wow them on The View... so I don't see a talk show in the offerings. Another problem dogging her will be the recent viewership history that points to the general public tiring of the Gosselin family... and that includes Kate. So what type of show do you think that Kate would be well suited for? About the only good fit for her would have been Hollywood Squares, if it were still around. And who's going to offer her a show with the kind of $$$ that she's been reportedly getting over the last 6 years???