I'm watching "Kate Plus Eight"....

[Conservative Hippie]

I quit watching when they got divorced, and said I would never watch it again (although I had a pretty good idea what was going on from threads like this!). Well I stuck with that until last night when I caught the infamous pizza episode on at the gym. Wow. And the "everybody leaves" comment? Yes Kate, everybody leaves you because you are unbearable!

 

[DWGal210]

I would always wonder, was Kate a witch because Jon was sap, or was John a sap because Kate was a witch?

The proverbial chicken or the egg. I wondered that as well!

 

[DWGal210]

I'll prob be accused of being you, since no one is allowed to ever do anything on this thread but hate and I guess I'm the only one who doesn't hate her, but I did find this funny..I've noticed this too.

Just quoting this particular post to clarify & make my point:

I don't hate her. Honestly, I can count on one hand people I legitimately hate - it's not a feeling or emotion I just throw around. Not liking someone and finding fault with them does NOT equal "hate." I don't like Kate, I think she's an egotistical narcissist who finds her own self worth by being on TV. I find that sad & ridiculous. I am entitled to my opinions, as is everyone else - but let's not use "hate." That just polarizes meaningful debate. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone here "hates" Kate Gosselin.

 

[DMRick]

I'm glad to hear you don't hate her. I know in the past people said they just intensly dislike her. I don't know her and it's hard to intensely dislike someone I don't know.

So, you may not hate her, but just going by the meaning of hate, there is a lot of it going around on this board. Here are some direct quotes below..and I didn't go back very far in this thread.

I posted this meaning several threads ago, and it wasn't liked..but if the below quote isn't hate, then I don't know what it is.

1. To have a great aversion to, with a strong desire that evil should befall the person toward whom the feeling is directed; to dislike intensely; to detest; as, to hate one's enemies; to hate hypocrisy.

Kate is, as us Haters have been telling you all these years, an exploitative, horrible woman and mother who suffers from Classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder...
She does not love her children, she is not capable of it. Everything us haters have told you has come true...

I *HATE* people who act like the world owes them something. The odd sense of entitlement and thinking you are far more important that you actually are.

I really hope she falls flat on her face.

She is just vile.

At this point I hope she fails miserably, JOn can get the kids and she can rot. She needs to be busted down a notch or two. She is rude, entitled, spoiled, nasty, *****y

I don't hate her. Honestly, I can count on one hand people I legitimately hate - it's not a feeling or emotion I just throw around. Not liking someone and finding fault with them does NOT equal "hate." I don't like Kate, I think she's an egotistical narcissist who finds her own self worth by being on TV. I find that sad & ridiculous. I am entitled to my opinions, as is everyone else - but let's not use "hate." That just polarizes meaningful debate. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone here "hates" Kate Gosselin.

 

[Mermaid02]

I've seen a few episodes of the show in the past (when they were together). I saw enough to know that if I had been married to that wishy washy man-child I probably would have been a bit of a control freak as well.

Never been a "regular" viewer though- I'm really not so much into reality shows. It just floors me when people who have been watching her show talk about how much they WISH it wasn't on air. How they "want her to go away" but here they are talking about her

 

[morethananyonex]

I think some of the "haters" know so much about a show they dislike because the majority used to be fans at one point. Now, what does that say? Or wait, could those people just not handle the 8 kids so they left ?

I find it funny that it's okay by some people's standards to bash Jon, and what they are saying is "fact" but when anything negative is said about Kate, it's just rumors. Can't have it both ways.

 

[DWGal210]

Respectfully, I would pose the same question back: isn't it also hard to intensely like & defend someone you don't know? You are of course welcome to your opinion but your position isn't much different than mine since we both don't know her.

I'm glad to hear you don't hate her. I know in the past people said they just intensly dislike her. I don't know her and it's hard to intensely dislike someone I don't know.

So, you may not hate her, but just going by the meaning of hate, there is a lot of it going around on this board. Here are some direct quotes below..and I didn't go back very far in this thread.

I posted this meaning several threads ago, and it wasn't liked..but if the below quote isn't hate, then I don't know what it is.

1. To have a great aversion to, with a strong desire that evil should befall the person toward whom the feeling is directed; to dislike intensely; to detest; as, to hate one's enemies; to hate hypocrisy.

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[DisneyMomx7]

I've seen a few episodes of the show in the past (when they were together). I saw enough to know that if I had been married to that wishy washy man-child I probably would have been a bit of a control freak as well.

Never been a "regular" viewer though- I'm really not so much into reality shows. It just floors me when people who have been watching her show talk about how much they WISH it wasn't on air. How they "want her to go away" but here they are talking about her

The funny thing is she was just as much of a control freak AFTER the divorce. Now whose fault is it?

We did start watching the show in the beginning but stopped after Kate started really becoming so totally self absorbed.

 

[SaraJayne]

We also watched in the beginning, but stopped once she went off the deep end ~ both on Jon and the kids.

 

[DWGal210]

We also watched in the beginning, but stopped once she went off the deep end ~ both on Jon and the kids.

Same here, for me. I watched until the train started going off the rails. I still catch an episode here or there but I dont watch every week.

 

[Mermaid02]

The funny thing is she was just as much of a control freak AFTER the divorce. Now whose fault is it?

We did start watching the show in the beginning but stopped after Kate started really becoming so totally self absorbed.

It's her personality- amplified by her life situation.

Listen- this is why I saw this thread and didn't post until someone stated there must not be anyone but haters left. You were all perfectly happy with your "Kate Hate" and I didn't want to interfere with your thread.

I will now leave you guys to your thread.

 

[DWGal210]

Oh for heaven's sake. I personally welcome other POVs. I like other thoughts & ideas. But it cuts both ways -- have your opinion & share those but please don't chastise us for ours.

It's her personality- amplified by her life situation.

Listen- this is why I saw this thread and didn't post until someone stated there must not be anyone but haters left. You were all perfectly happy with your "Kate Hate" and I didn't want to interfere with your thread.

I will now leave you guys to your thread.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I've seen a few episodes of the show in the past (when they were together). I saw enough to know that if I had been married to that wishy washy man-child I probably would have been a bit of a control freak as well.

Never been a "regular" viewer though- I'm really not so much into reality shows. It just floors me when people who have been watching her show talk about how much they WISH it wasn't on air. How they "want her to go away" but here they are talking about her

In the beginning I could relate - I am married to a man-child, and I am a control freak. But she is just downright rude and disrespectful to everyone around her. I couldn't believe when she yelled at him in the toy store. There is no excuse for that.

 

[DMRick]

Respectfully, I would pose the same question back: isn't it also hard to intensely like & defend someone you don't know? You are of course welcome to your opinion but your position isn't much different than mine since we both don't know her.

I'd rather like someone (although I wouldn't say intenesly, since I don't know her) than not. I have said there are things she has done that I haven't liked, and I am glad the kids aren't in a show. If you read back, I only defend what there isn't proof of (in my eyes). I defend that she and Steve weren't having an affair, because I've seen no proof. I defend that her 'girls' look the same to me, and I've seen no proof they aren't. I've seen no proof that she isn't involved more than what we see with her kids. I really see a show, an edited show, and as she said last night, the taping could be a couple days, and she could have yelled at her kids a short amount of that, and that's what they show. I couldn't live up at times to the group on this thread, and what they would have said, when I had my young children. Kate doesn't seem to have filters..she says what she says, even with camera's rolling. I think that is a big difference than on some of the other shows. Other shows seem to have more control over what can be shown.
So my short answer is, I don't intensely dislike anyone, but for me, it would be much harder and against my beliefs to intensly dislike, or hate someone based on the 'proof' shown. I'm much happier liking people or at least not disliking them, based on an edited tv show. Now, if someone could just explain filters to her, I think she would fare much better.

 

[DMRick]

So the stuff about Jon was rumors? Not fact? I've only read in the paps that 'someone close to her' said he was given 'permission' to cheat..but that was a fact, and so he did? And he didn't move into a one bedroom apartment in NYC?

I'd like to know why he doesn't have the kids more, myself. Why they don't have equal shared custody. I know of very few people who don't get 50/50 nowadays.

I find it funny that it's okay by some people's standards to bash Jon, and what they are saying is "fact" but when anything negative is said about Kate, it's just rumors. Can't have it both ways.

 

[morethananyonex]

So the stuff about Jon was rumors? Not fact? I've only read in the paps that 'someone close to her' said he was given 'permission' to cheat..but that was a fact, and so he did? And he didn't move into a one bedroom apartment in NYC?

I'd like to know why he doesn't have the kids more, myself. Why they don't have equal shared custody. I know of very few people who don't get 50/50 nowadays.

I think you missed what I was getting at.

If Kate/Steve talk, **** job talk, Kate is a miserable witch talk, and Kate cheated first talk is all not facts, then neither are most things that are said about Jon. It's either all rumors, or all facts (I mean all the speculated stuff).

 

[mhsjax]

So the stuff about Jon was rumors? Not fact? I've only read in the paps that 'someone close to her' said he was given 'permission' to cheat..but that was a fact, and so he did? And he didn't move into a one bedroom apartment in NYC?

I'd like to know why he doesn't have the kids more, myself. Why they don't have equal shared custody. I know of very few people who don't get 50/50 nowadays.

Maybe Kate is the reason he doesn't have them more. FWIW, my DD is watching last nights epi. For anyone that claimed that Jon only wanted the kids out of filming because they got divorced and he wasn't getting any of the attention, Kate herself just said that Jon was always ready to get out this "job". so I guess it didn't have anything to do with Jon trying to get back at her or any type of jealousy.

 

[SeaSpray]

Op here

I'm not a Kate-hater or Kate-lover, nor am I a Jon-hater or Jon-lover! I honestly have no idea what Jon is up to these past couple of years, and frankly, I'm not particularly interested to know.

I started this thread simply because of what I saw on the episode a couple of weeks ago. That episode had nothing to do with Kate and Jon's marriage, or divorce, or what their jobs or salaries were/are. I posted because I was shocked at Kate's behavior. Her current behavior, that is.

Please try not to lump everyone who has posted on this thread as a "hater" because I agree that it's a very strong word, and it's simply false that most of the people who have posted negative comments hate Kate.

From what I've seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears, I really don't think Kate is a happy person or a particularly nice person, and she's way too quick to anger and yelling. I used to watch the show years ago, but had not seen it at all again until 2 weeks ago.

I saw Kate on "Dancing with the Stars" because that is a show that I watch every season. Her behaviour towards Tony (her pro dance partner) was not something that I admired in any way, and in fact I found it embarrassing for her (not her dancing... her behaviour).

I really don't blame her for enjoying the perks all these years, who wouldn't??? ... but now she definitely acts and speaks as though she is inherently entitled to these things. Last I knew, there was no royalty in this country! lol

As for the Kate defenders... do you really feel that she's a person with qualities in the way that she treats others who deserves to be defended? I don't, and if she were my friend or relative, I would speak to her privately, but I could never defend someone who behaves that way to so many people, on such a regular basis.

"And that's all I've got to say about that...." - Forrest Gump

 

[mercydisney]

In the beginning I could relate - I am married to a man-child, and I am a control freak. But she is just downright rude and disrespectful to everyone around her. I couldn't believe when she yelled at him in the toy store. There is no excuse for that.

This is the episode when I stopped watching.
I also remember an inerview w/ the family on an early morning show, I believe it was NBC morning show, the host asked the twins questions and Kate kept answering for them. As if they would say the wrong thing. Yesterday, they asked her where she sees herself and the 8 kids and she said on TV! Then they asked the kids the same question and they all had really good careers planned out. Not one of them had to do w/TV.

 

[Teresa Pitman]

Did you notice that when the kids were asked about how they felt about the show ending, they all said, promptly, "Sad" but none of them LOOKED sad? One of the boys was even giggling. And one of the twins was pulling down the corners of her mouth and said "sad, that's why I am making a sad face." So one "fake" sad face, and the rest looked pretty happy. I have to say, that made me really wonder if they'd been coached to say they were sad.

I've watched this show on and off over the years. I always felt she treated Jon and the kids badly. I know there is editing, and it could be done to make things look worse, but she sure seems to give them a lot of material. The whole pizza thing was just ridiculous, and even if she was Little Miss Sunshine the rest of the day, it would still be horrible.

When I saw the clips of the crew playing and interacting with the kids, I was suddenly sorry that the show was ending. I bet they will miss the crew a lot - they seemed to play with the kids in a fun, relaxed way and the kids aren't going to get much of that from Kate.

Teresa