I'm watching "Kate Plus Eight"....

Actually, we (RNs) do change bedpans. I have a strong dislike for any nurse that thinks they are "too posh to wash or too cool for the poo". I imagine Kate would be one of those, but you never know she cleaned the poo of all those kids. Or maybe her nanny did?

Good for you. :) I'm sure Kate changed diapers often. She actually threw a dirty diaper at a Jen Stocks, the original producer of the show, once.

That must vary by hospital. :) Neither my sister or Mom (RN's) changed bedpans. That was the job of CNA's.

It probably varies by facility and the availability of CNAs. Not all nursing takes place in hospitals though. Visiting nurses in Elder or Hospice care deal with a fair amount of poo.

Kate with her (how shall I put it politely) rather limited empathy, questionable social skills and documented horror of germs and poo would probably be better in an administrative position.

Does she have a BS in nursing? That would give her more opportunities if she doesn't like direct patient care.
 
I would think poorly of any place that didn't hire her because of tweets or emails from random strangers that saw her on a show. It's one thing to take into account previous employer info but to say "eh I got an email from someone that doesn't know her personally and says bad things therefore we will not hire her" would make for a crappy employer and not a place I would want to work. She does have a certain notoriety right now but some employers might thrive on the publicity of "Kate Plus 8" working for them..she is not without opportunity.

What should she do with her life..who knows :confused3 Like all grown ups it is up to Kate to find something she can and/or wants to do to support her family. That doesn't mean it has to be "celeb" or media related jobs but I think she has grown quite accustomed to the limelight and she needs to use common sense when deciding what a valid long term job prospect is.

There would be no reason at all she wouldn't have enough funds to put herself back through school and still support the children if she wants/needs to make a career change. She gets paid what was it..$250,000 per episode? She should be perfectly capable of managing her money to get through until she finds a career/gets a degree that she wants. Plenty people do it with far far less money. Will that means giant mansions, new expensive cars and regular salon visits? Possibly not..but that's OK..it can be done.

I've read several places that they got around $50,000 an episode and some had to be put in trust for the children. Still a lot of money.
 
I've read several places that they got around $50,000 an episode and some had to be put in trust for the children. Still a lot of money.

Even $50,000 is a decent amount for sure...when I searched I saw it ranging from $25,000 to $250,000 and I am not sure what site might be more accurate vs another but it is still more than many "average" families bring in over the course of several years and they manage education costs for themselves and career changes so would think Kate could swing it too.
 
I was a little disapointed in Jamie's behavior. Kate was a pain, no doubt about it. Jamie seemed to help create a "her against us" relationship with Ashley, and then egg her on to be angry with Kate & stand up to her.

It's sad because Ashley is young, and that was her job. Ashley stood to lose more than a friendship by arguing with Kate, and Jamie still egged her on to do it.
 

I was a little disapointed in Jamie's behavior. Kate was a pain, no doubt about it. Jamie seemed to help create a "her against us" relationship with Ashley, and then egg her on to be angry with Kate & stand up to her.

It's sad because Ashley is young, and that was her job. Ashley stood to lose more than a friendship by arguing with Kate, and Jamie still egged her on to do it.

I think that Ashley really did need to stand up for herself. Kate has treated her like a doormat and completely disregarded how much help she got from her. She was not appreciated, Kate does not seem to appreciate anything from anyone.

I *HATE* people who act like the world owes them something. The odd sense of entitlement and thinking you are far more important that you actually are.
 
She has been portrayed so badly of late I don't know what will become of her and the kids. The RV episode clips alone are INSANE. She was withholding dinner from whoever got her wet...in a raft...while whitewater rafting. Then she threatened Ashley with her job if she squirted her. Really? The raft guide thought she was out of her mind, and didn't hide his feelings. She is insane, completly. She makes no attempt to hide it. No one is going to hire her except as tabloid fodder. The poor kids. She thinks her 7 year olds are "preschoolers". They witness her being abusive not only to them, but EVERYONE she is around. Mentally I mean. The chicken, the pizza... Steve is her "body" guard all right. Please tell me she doesn't think people believe that's all he is. The People magazine article is nuts...why do they put her on the cover? :confused:.
 
Good for you. :) I'm sure Kate changed diapers often. She actually threw a dirty diaper at a Jen Stocks, the original producer of the show, once.



It probably varies by facility and the availability of CNAs. Not all nursing takes place in hospitals though. Visiting nurses in Elder or Hospice care deal with a fair amount of poo.

Kate with her (how shall I put it politely) rather limited empathy, questionable social skills and documented horror of germs and poo would probably be better in an administrative position.

Does she have a BS in nursing? That would give her more opportunities if she doesn't like direct patient care.

You can always call a CNA to change the poo, a lot of nurses do and feel it is not their job. I just think it is everyones job, and I really feel that whoever can get to it the fastest should do it. It does vary by hospital and staffing levels. CNAs work really hard and are spread too thin in some areas. If you wait for the CNAs to do it, people get left on the commode and sitting in their bedpan for a long time. It happens everyday. Some nurses think they are too good to do it. When I worked up in New England, we had 1 CNA per 5-6 patients. Down here in the South, we had 1 for 15 ish patients on a good night. That is a lot of time to sit and wait if you need to use the restroom if you need to go, especially if you are elderly and need to go NOW. lol. Treat others as you would like to be treated. When I am old, please dont leave me on my bedpan.

And no, I would not let Kate touch me. Although I like the suggestion of her being a school nurse, I really think she could be really good at that if she could treat the other adults appropriately. She actually is very good with the kids, other than her setting a bad behavior example. In the first few seasons I think she did a good job of setting up activities for them and teaching opportunitites.
 
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I was a little disapointed in Jamie's behavior. Kate was a pain, no doubt about it. Jamie seemed to help create a "her against us" relationship with Ashley, and then egg her on to be angry with Kate & stand up to her.

It's sad because Ashley is young, and that was her job. Ashley stood to lose more than a friendship by arguing with Kate, and Jamie still egged her on to do it.

Ashley is a full-time college student beginning her senior year. Once she graduates she will, I hope, get full-time job in her field of choice and not need to spend her vacations working as a "helper" for an unappreciative and overly critical Kate. I do hope she can keep in contact with the Gosselin kids though. They seem to love her.

I'll agree that Jamie's behavior was a bit odd, given that she is (per Kate) Kate's dearest friend.
 
And no, I would not let Kate touch me. Although I like the suggestion of her being a school nurse, I really think she could be really good at that if she could treat the other adults appropriately. She actually is very good with the kids, other than her setting a bad behavior example. In the first few seasons I think she did a good job of setting up activities for them and teaching opportunitites.

Really? She is not someone I would ever deem "good with kids" based on what I have seen of her on her show. Wasn't there an episode where she and Jon were making fun of one of the twins for having an overbite or needing braces, she controls the kids activities beyond reason, screams and flips the heck out should one of them get dirty or hand someone pizza with their bare hands (or whatever that was about). Yeah I would not be OK with a person of her personality being my child's school nurse..I would be utterly horrified. She is not someone I see having much in the way of compassion and can you imagine being a scared sick kid at school and having to see Kate as your school nurse?!? :scared1:
 
Really? She is not someone I would ever deem "good with kids" based on what I have seen of her on her show. Wasn't there an episode where she and Jon were making fun of one of the twins for having an overbite or needing braces, she controls the kids activities beyond reason, screams and flips the heck out should one of them get dirty or hand someone pizza with their bare hands (or whatever that was about). Yeah I would not be OK with a person of her personality being my child's school nurse..I would be utterly horrified. She is not someone I see having much in the way of compassion and can you imagine being a scared sick kid at school and having to see Kate as your school nurse?!? :scared1:

I agree. She has no soft skills. Adult or kid. Her nursing skills certainly leave a little up in the air. She is not a germaphobe, as she claims. She had dirty potty chairs all over her house and van. Dried pee caked on the van floor and let her husband use a grocery bag as a rubber glove to do (lord help me not think about that episode) whatever with in a wide open parking lot.
 
You can always call a CNA to change the poo, a lot of nurses do and feel it is not their job. I just think it is everyones job, and I really feel that whoever can get to it the fastest should do it. It does vary by hospital and staffing levels. CNAs work really hard and are spread too thin in some areas. If you wait for the CNAs to do it, people get left on the commode and sitting in their bedpan for a long time. It happens everyday. Some nurses think they are too good to do it. When I worked up in New England, we had 1 CNA per 5-6 patients. Down here in the South, we had 1 for 15 ish patients on a good night. That is a lot of time to sit and wait if you need to use the restroom if you need to go, especially if you are elderly and need to go NOW. lol. Treat others as you would like to be treated. When I am old, please dont leave me on my bedpan.

And no, I would not let Kate touch me. Although I like the suggestion of her being a school nurse, I really think she could be really good at that if she could treat the other adults appropriately. She actually is very good with the kids, other than her setting a bad behavior example. In the first few seasons I think she did a good job of setting up activities for them and teaching opportunitites.

I think you must be a wonderful nurse.:worship: Yes, the humiliation experienced by elderly folks if they have accidents while waiting to be assisted or are left too long on the commode is extreme. I'm not a nurse, my background is in macro social work, but I have had elderly parents and volunteer with senior citizens and Hospice a lot.

Kate could definitely be a school nurse. The hours would be ideal. While I'm not convinced that she is really that good interacting with kids, as a school nurse her interactions would be short-term limited to medical stuff. She would have to be a bit careful in interations with other staff and parents!
 
Kate could definitely be a school nurse. The hours would be ideal. While I'm not convinced that she is really that good interacting with kids, as a school nurse her interactions would be short-term limited to medical stuff. She would have to be a bit careful in interations with other staff and parents!

I am a school nurse and I don't think Kate would be very good at the job. School nursing entails a lot more than putting on bandaids and giving a few Tylenols. I spend a lot of my day interacting with children, teachers, parapros, and parents. I have a lot of "bosses" too--my principal, vice-principal, my lead nurse, the head nurse of all the school nurses, the head of the school board, etc. Kate might do okay working in a High School, perhaps, but I think you need to be very nurturing and patient when working with very young students. She certainly doesn't come across as warm or fuzzy on her show.

I won't even mention the low pay for many school nurses. I don't know what they're paid in PA(isn't that where she lives?) but here in Georgia, we make exactly SQUAT. There is NO WAY I could ever support 8 kids on my salary!
 
I was a little disapointed in Jamie's behavior. Kate was a pain, no doubt about it. Jamie seemed to help create a "her against us" relationship with Ashley, and then egg her on to be angry with Kate & stand up to her.

It's sad because Ashley is young, and that was her job. Ashley stood to lose more than a friendship by arguing with Kate, and Jamie still egged her on to do it.
Kate tweeted that her and Ashley mended their differences.

She has been portrayed so badly of late I don't know what will become of her and the kids. The RV episode clips alone are INSANE. She was withholding dinner from whoever got her wet...in a raft...while whitewater rafting. Then she threatened Ashley with her job if she squirted her. Really? The raft guide thought she was out of her mind, and didn't hide his feelings. She is insane, completly. She makes no attempt to hide it. No one is going to hire her except as tabloid fodder. The poor kids. She thinks her 7 year olds are "preschoolers". They witness her being abusive not only to them, but EVERYONE she is around. Mentally I mean. The chicken, the pizza... Steve is her "body" guard all right. Please tell me she doesn't think people believe that's all he is. The People magazine article is nuts...why do they put her on the cover? :confused:.
I saw an interview and the editor from People magazine was on and she loves Kate. I'm sure she paid Kate a ton of money again for doing another interview.
 
She thinks her 7 year olds are "preschoolers".

Yeah, I thought it was weird that she referred to them (twice) as preschoolers. Didn't they just finish first grade?

They witness her being abusive not only to them, but EVERYONE she is around. Mentally I mean. The chicken, the pizza... Steve is her "body" guard all right. Please tell me she doesn't think people believe that's all he is.

Oh, tell me about it. When they were divorcing and Jon was spreading the story about her and Steve, people (including me) villified him as a lying so-and-so who was just trying to shift blame because he cheated. Now, it looks like he might have been right all along. I googled a bit after this episode and their relationship seems inappropriate, to say the least.

The People magazine article is nuts...why do they put her on the cover? :confused:.

They put her on the cover because people buy it, plain and simple. All about money.
 

YOu and I don't agree on much about Kate Gosselin, but I think I have to go with you on this one. People on another board are screaming about how they must be more than friends because she knows that he doesn't eat salad or mac n cheese. Well I guess that I am romantically involved with a lot of my friends because I know some of their likes and dislikes. It only takes a few meals together to figure out some of what people like and don't like. Also from what I understand body guards spend a lot of time with the people they are taking care of, so I am not sure their relationship is anything inappropriate, very close yes, but that doesn't make it wrong.
 
She treats him like her favorite kid to me.:confused3

Well yeah, I agree with that. I am just saying that because she knows what he likes, doesn't mean they are together. I do agree that she treats him way better than her kids, that isn't right, but I don't think they are romantically involved. I think he is smarter than that, and did you see the way he talked to her? I laughed my butt off when he told her to "sit down" on the water rafting boat.
 
So I caught the People magazine at the store and it took me forever to find the stinking cover article. Even checked the Table of Contents and had a hard time finding "Cover Story" which I thought they usually include so that you can immediately jump to the page. They didn't label it that way--and I did find it. Wow was it crammed between a lot of ads.

Anyway--the one thing that jumped out at me....Mady wants to be a Disney channel star.

Sure--my kid does as well...but I find it interesting that it was mentioned in an article and was wondering if that was a KG ploy for her kid and whether or not she honestly things Disney would welcome her along with her kid. My understanding of that industry--Kate is not the type of mom that producers and directors want to deal with on a regular basis.
 

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