I just don't understand. someone please help me

[DisneyKevin]

“Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and the one that yells is the one that got hit.”
Defend yourself against what? If you post something about drunk drivers, I won't feel the need to defend myself. Guess why. Because it doesn't apply to me. You said I painted using a broad brush. Since when has "SOME" been a generalization? Due to a previous conversation via PM, I thought that you were different. I guess I was wrong. I didn't personally attack you or anyone else. I used the word "SOME" so that it wouldn't be mistakenly taken as a generalization, but I guess I was wrong. I'm sorry.

I've spent my life thinking I was different and trying to hide it, apologize for it and overcome it..

I'm not different. I'm just like everyone else and this board has made me understand that. I have found a level of acceptance and friendship and community here that astounds me.

Unlike a pack of dogs who are only motivated by their own individual need, I feel strongly about anyone throwing rcoks at this group for any reason.

Your post accuses "some" of these people as being juvenile in order to be a "cool kid". I see this very differently. I see this as them feeling the way I do....protective. Protective of something I dont find many other places.

Spend some time reading these boards and you will find the same sentiment over and over and over. There are some strong bonds in this group. Friendships have been forged. People are getting support here that they dont find other places.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. We laugh, we cry, we celebrate, we mourn, we console, we rejoice.....all of these things are here for anyone that wants to partake. We exclude no one.

Whether you have singled out inviduals or used the vague term "some"....you have thrown stones at a group that I dont feel deserves to be hit with rocks.

I'm not different. I have found that there are many here like me and I will defend them when I feel it's necessary.

 

[fakereadhed]

Just need to get this off my chest. It amazes me that those who repeatedly voice dissatisfaction about the dynamics of this board continue to join in the discussion. Must not be so terrible if you are still reading.

 

[Bornteach]

I think the irony of it all is that we pay nothing to belong to the boards, nothing to listen to the podcast (the cost of whatever mp3 player you use is irrelevant) and, if you are lucky enough to come to DAP, little to no fee to join in on the festivities.

I can think of nothing else that gives me so much pleasure and is free.....

 

[dpuck1998]

I've spent my life thinking I was different and trying to hide it, apologize for it and overcome it..

I'm not different. I'm just like everyone else and this board has made me understand that. I have found a level of acceptance and friendship here that astounds me.

Unlike a pack of dogs who are only motivated by their own individual need, I feel strongly about anyone throwing rcoks at this group for any reason.

Your post accuses "some" of these people as being juvenile in order to be a "cool kid". I see this very differently. I see this as them feeling the way I do....protective. Protective of something I dont find many other places.

Spend some time reading these boards and you will find the same sentiment over and over and over. There are some strong bonds in this group. Friendships have been forged. People are getting support here that they dont find other places.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. We laugh, we cry, we celebrate, we mourn, we console, we rejoice.....all of these things are here for anyone that wants to partake. We exclude no one.

Whether you have singled out inviduals or used the vague term "some"....you have thrown stones at a group that I dont feel deserves to be hit with rocks.

I'm not different. I have found that there are many here like me and I will defend them when I feel it's necessary.

Those that feel like an outsider or not part of the "cool kids" we were all that person. We choose to keep posting, get to know people and become friends. I was friends with a lot of these people before I ever met them. I've seen new people quickly become fast friends and new people quickly become ignored. I have disagreed with many on issues even the podcast. I choose to pick my battles and have decided few are worth fighting on a message board. Most are opinions and seldom can they be changed via a few posts. I will come to bat when I think fingers are pointed unfairly.

I hate to go off on another tangent, but when I started here I was very unsure of the group of people that gathered. I live in a small town, not a lot of diversity. The podcast turned me off at times, but I kept listening and grew to know them. When Bob died I honestly felt a huge loss, someone I had never met I mourned. When I met the crew and talked to them, interacted with other board members we grew closer. When they attack some on this board, they attack all. If we don't agree with them we will still defend them from attack. I'm not sure what else there is to say, my thoughts have gone to mush.....while I completely understand the need to post opinions of things such as Project X, I don't understand the point of attacking "some" to make your point. If others don't agree with you, that is up to them. Just because the don't agree saying it is because they are the "cool kids" only hurts your argument.

Sorry if I rambled, trying to watch the incredibles.....great movie....but I think Kevin didn't like it.....cause hes not cool.....

 

[Disneybridein2k3]

Those that feel like an outsider or not part of the "cool kids" we were all that person. We choose to keep posting, get to know people and become friends. I was friends with a lot of these people before I ever met them. I've seen new people quickly become fast friends and new people quickly become ignored. I have disagreed with many on issues even the podcast. I choose to pick my battles and have decided few are worth fighting on a message board. Most are opinions and seldom can they be changed via a few posts. I will come to bat when I think fingers are pointed unfairly.

I hate to go off on another tangent, but when I started here I was very unsure of the group of people that gathered. I live in a small town, not a lot of diversity. The podcast turned me off at times, but I kept listening and grew to know them. When Bob died I honestly felt a huge loss, someone I had never met I mourned. When I met the crew and talked to them, interacted with other board members we grew closer. When they attack some on this board, they attack all. If we don't agree with them we will still defend them from attack. I'm not sure what else there is to say, my thoughts have gone to mush.....while I completely understand the need to post opinions of things such as Project X, I don't understand the point of attacking "some" to make your point. If others don't agree with you, that is up to them. Just because the don't agree saying it is because they are the "cool kids" only hurts your argument.

Sorry if I rambled, trying to watch the incredibles.....great movie....but I think Kevin didn't like it.....cause hes not cool.....

I couldn't agree more, Don. When I first started posting to this board, my first Dis-agreement was with YOU (bold, I know!) It was a losing battle but one I fought to the bitter end and still get teased on every now and again. But what I learned was, it is okay to have different opinions here so long as you keep the fight clean. No punches below the belt, and separate when the ref says so. (Plus it helps to be able to put on your big girl pants and get over it when you lose!) The problem with this fight about the yet-to-be-released app is some of the posts seem to be below the belt personal attacks which is why, even though we know the team can defend themselves, we still come to their defense.

All of these posts can't even be a debate on the usefulness vs price of the app because it hasn't been released yet. So in the end, people are simply complaining about the price. I'd really like a Lamborghini but I can't afford one so I don't buy it. See? It's just that easy.

 

[DaParkers]

I've spent my life thinking I was different and trying to hide it, apologize for it and overcome it..

I'm not different. I'm just like everyone else and this board has made me understand that. I have found a level of acceptance and friendship and community here that astounds me.

Unlike a pack of dogs who are only motivated by their own individual need, I feel strongly about anyone throwing rcoks at this group for any reason.

Your post accuses "some" of these people as being juvenile in order to be a "cool kid". I see this very differently. I see this as them feeling the way I do....protective. Protective of something I dont find many other places.

Spend some time reading these boards and you will find the same sentiment over and over and over. There are some strong bonds in this group. Friendships have been forged. People are getting support here that they dont find other places.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. We laugh, we cry, we celebrate, we mourn, we console, we rejoice.....all of these things are here for anyone that wants to partake. We exclude no one.

Whether you have singled out inviduals or used the vague term "some"....you have thrown stones at a group that I dont feel deserves to be hit with rocks.

I'm not different. I have found that there are many here like me and I will defend them when I feel it's necessary.

I will not try to convert you or anyone else. Even if we don't want to admit it, there are juvenile, mean, evil, nice, gay, straight, black, white, drunks, etc..... in ANY large group of people. The DIS is no different. If you or any one else can't see that, then you live in a fantasy land. I pass judgment on no one, because I have my faults too.(lots of them) But, I don't act as if everyone is of the same mindstate, because that's not possible. Just because you are sincere doesn't mean that I am. The one thing that I know for sure is that we all love WDW. That's it. And what I meant by "different" was less confrontational. Not "Better" or anything like that. I just don't see the need to argue every point. It's just not worth it. That's why I never said how I felt about Project X or anyone individually. Because I don't want to argue about every little thing. Hence, one of my faults is allowing myself to be pulled into a DIScussion that I know I shouldn't join. For my lack of control, I apologize, again. I AM SORRY FOR THROWING ROCKS, STICKS AND STONES AT ANYONE. I COULD HAVE PUT SOMEONE'S EYE OUT. Seriously, enough is enough. I'm sorry for offending whoever I offended.




The Original "DISard of Oz"

 

[dpuck1998]

I couldn't agree more, Don. When I first started posting to this board, my first Dis-agreement was with YOU (bold, I know!) It was a losing battle but one I fought to the bitter end and still get teased on every now and again. But what I learned was, it is okay to have different opinions here so long as you keep the fight clean. No punches below the belt, and separate when the ref says so. (Plus it helps to be able to put on your big girl pants and get over it when you lose!) The problem with this fight about the yet-to-be-released app is some of the posts seem to be below the belt personal attacks which is why, even though we know the team can defend themselves, we still come to their defense.

All of these posts can't even be a debate on the usefulness vs price of the app because it hasn't been released yet. So in the end, people are simply complaining about the price. I'd really like a Lamborghini but I can't afford one so I don't buy it. See? It's just that easy.

See all this time I thought I lost!

 

[DisneyKevin]

I will not try to convert you or anyone else. Even if we don't want to admit it, there are juvenile, mean, evil, nice, gay, straight, black, white, drunks, etc..... in ANY large group of people. The DIS is no different. If you or any one else can't see that, then you live in a fantasy land. I pass judgment on no one, because I have my faults too.(lots of them) But, I don't act as if everyone is of the same mindstate, because that's not possible. Just because you are sincere doesn't mean that I am. The one thing that I know for sure is that we all love WDW. That's it. And what I meant by "different" was less confrontational. Not "Better" or anything like that. I just don't see the need to argue every point. It's just not worth it. That's why I never said how I felt about Project X or anyone individually. Because I don't want to argue about every little thing. Hence, one of my faults is allowing myself to be pulled into a DIScussion that I know I shouldn't join. For my lack of control, I apologize, again. I AM SORRY FOR THROWING ROCKS, STICKS AND STONES AT ANYONE. I COULD HAVE PUT SOMEONE'S EYE OUT. Seriously, enough is enough. I'm sorry for offending whoever I offended.
The Original "DISard of Oz"

This is my fantasy land. I've looked for something like this all my life.

This is not a community thrown together by location or forced to be together like high school.

This is a community by choice and to me that's precious.

I've spent a lot of time getting to know the guy who created this website and the original intent was to create a discussion board where folks could discuss Disney. This particular board has ventured further afield and now encompasses many different topics. We've have discussed whether we should limit discussions to just Disney and topics mentioned on the Podcast and we have to come to realize that this board has taken on a life of it's own.
It's become a community. It serves a purpose. It has become the town hall, Main Street, meeting space for a great many people. Trying to focus the discussion to a narrow topic would be a dis-service to those that meet here.

Opinions are not silenced on this board as long as those opinions are given following the policies of the Dis.

There is a discussion of Pete's use of the term "cleaning lady". That thread has been edited once and that was because of the use of the word "stupid" which is against Dis policy. The rest of the thread goes unedited. If you read it.....I dont think you will find anyone trying to be a "cool kid".

Dissenting opinion is welcome as long as it's not an attack. No one here is afraid of a different opinion. I think you'll find many here like a good debate. I'm one of them and I will do everythying in my power to paint you into a corner until you drop to your knees crying "Kevin is right". (Just ask John)

I too apologize for being sarcastic and snarky. It's uncalled for.

Everyone is welcome to join the conversation....agree with us...or not. Your thoughts are welcome.

Just follow the rules.

 

[jeanigor]

I'll bring cake.

 

[Disneybridein2k3]

I'll bring cake.

I love cake.

 

[mainegal]

I'll bring cake.

Love it!
A cake with peace symbols!

Peace to all!

 

[dpuck1998]

Ummmm....what about pie?

 

[jeanigor]

Even though his goes against my "no fruit for dessert" ideals...

 

[georgemoe]

I'll bring cake.

What do you call that cake? The Mike & Christy?

 

[Launchpad11B]

 

[robind]

I'm going to risk being called a "sheep" but I wanted to toss out an analogy.

I am a coach, have coached many sports at many age levels. If you want to do something that draws out the best and worst of people try coaching. No matter what you do, how you do it there is a group of complainers. They are usually the ones sitting on the sideline watching. Seldom do we have too many coaches volunteer. After taking a year off because I was fed up with listening to people whine about this and that I took a good hard look at why I coach. I decided it was because I enjoyed working with kids, watching them improve and helping them learn life lessons along the way. I refuse to let a few complainers ruin that for me. I'm tired of hearing the whine from the cheap seats and taking away someone that has the experience and knowledge to be a good coach. If they don't like it, too bad, next time sign up to coach.

Take that for what is worth.


ohhh....I don't have an iPhone. I would love to see this as a blackberry app someday.

Totally off topic, but when has that ever stopped anyone. I don't have any children, but I see my cousin coaching soccer and little league and being the scout master because no one else will do it. Everyone wants to have their child play but no one is willing to do the work - so thank you for doing that for the kids in your neighborhood.

I'll bring cake.

And there are not points either - right????

 

[Disneybridein2k3]

love it...peace, do it or we'll beat it outta you I need one of these for my desk at work.

 

[dpuck1998]

love it...peace, do it or we'll beat it outta you I need one of these for my desk at work.

Me three

 

[FireDancer]

Any large group of friends is going to have disagreements. I have had some screaming matches with people I have been friends with for 20 years. It is normal whether that is a group of friends in regular life or an online group of friends which is really what the podcast board is. Just like in real life the fact you can disagree, sometimes very adamantly, and remain friends is the true test of friendship. If we stopped being friends with someone the minute they stopped parroting our thoughts we would eventually be friendless or at best have very boring conversations.

 

[Launchpad11B]

Any large group of friends is going to have disagreements. I have had some screaming matches with people I have been friends with for 20 years. It is normal whether that is a group of friends in regular life or an online group of friends which is really what the podcast board is. Just like in real life the fact you can disagree, sometimes very adamantly, and remain friends is the true test of friendship. If we stopped being friends with someone the minute they stopped parroting our thoughts we would eventually be friendless or at best have very boring conversations.

I disagree Frank. You are now friendless!