I couldn't believe what I saw last night

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
diverting a meltdown is good, allowing a child to be manipulative to the point of a man going into the ladies room is wrong... I'm sure jsut as many if not more parenting books would advise against such manipulation I 'm curious, why is it OK for you to share your opinions, but if someone posts differing opinions, they are nosey, and judgemental..


in most places a man can and will be arrested for going into a ladies room,

I don't follow the train of thought here,
if it's Ok for men to go into the ladies room...wouldn't that possibly increase the chance of females being molested in restrooms, because no one would look twice if they saw a guy enter the Ladies room

I say nosy and judgemental because I simply posted about a one time event and how I handled it that ONE time......not only that it's something that happened 23 years ago. You aren't gonna say that people are jumping at wild conclusions with comments about molestations, 3 year olds who manipulate and all sorts of other silly remarks? LOL LOL
You're right, Grampa would probably be arrested now if he went in there with her.........which goes along with my very first post on this thread.

We as Americans have a heck of a lot of paranoia about bathroom stuff. We as Americans are OVERLY paranoid about many things, this just being one of them.

Again, on topic, I probably wouldn't have batted an eyelash had I discovered a male in the womans bathroom under the circumstances Sonya is talking about.

 

[nuke]

You've got to be kidding me. Are you actually arguing and questioning parenting skills about something that happened years ago? It's almost laughable what people will fight about.

This is a child that needed to pee so someone took her to pee. Big whippin deal. Now maybe if she insisted that Ronald McDonald take her to the bathroom that would be a problem but to request a grandparent? Who gives a poop?

In this day and age most 3 year olds aren't even potty trained yet. Kuddos to you Patti for potty training your daughter in record time.

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

HMG, I would never send a grown man into the ladies room. I would send a grown man into the men's room with a toddler in tow. no reason a man can't attend to the child's needs.

but I would never tolerate a hissy fit or tantrum in a public place. at 3 mine knew better than that.

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
HMG, I would never send a grown man into the ladies room. I would send a grown man into the men's room with a toddler in tow. no reason a man can't attend to the child's needs.

but I would never tolerate a hissy fit or tantrum in a public place. at 3 mine knew better than that.

Briar Rose, you had a full 45 minutes to read my reply which was:

"This was 23 years ago and our McDonalds only had one restroom. There are still a lot of places up here where there are no ladies/mens rooms.....it's all ONE bathroom."
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What an odd quirk that you are willing to send a grown man into a men's room with a toddler but not into the ladies room.

And if you'll stop to consider for a moment, I didn't "tolerate" a hissy fit. I stopped it dead in it's tracks AND the child stayed dry to boot.
Grampa didn't mind. McDonalds didn't mind. I didn't mind.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek

What an odd quirk that you are willing to send a grown man into a men's room with a toddler but not into the ladies room.

And if you'll stop to consider for a moment, I didn't "tolerate" a hissy fit. I stopped it dead in it's tracks AND the child stayed dry to boot.
Grampa didn't mind. McDonalds didn't mind. I didn't mind.

why is this an odd quirk, as a father, should I have taken my toddler daughter into the ladies room...rather than the mens room...???

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
why is this an odd quirk, as a father, should I have taken my toddler daughter into the ladies room...rather than the mens room...???

I think its an odd quirk to be willing to send a toddler/grown man into one rest room but not the other.
Of course that's just my opinion.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
I say nosy and judgemental because I simply posted about a one time event and how I handled it that ONE time......not only that it's something that happened 23 years ago. You aren't gonna say that people are jumping at wild conclusions with comments about molestations, 3 year olds who manipulate and all sorts of other silly remarks? LOL LOL
You're right, Grampa would probably be arrested now if he went in there with her.........which goes along with my very first post on this thread.

We as Americans have a heck of a lot of paranoia about bathroom stuff. We as Americans are OVERLY paranoid about many things, this just being one of them.

Again, on topic, I probably wouldn't have batted an eyelash had I discovered a male in the womans bathroom under the circumstances Sonya is talking about.

you put your post out there as if it justified the original post;s events..since you did it it's OK....other people feel differently..

why is it wrong for people to expect privacy in the restroom..??

if throwing a fit to get what one wants isn't manipulative..what is it..??

if you believe you are right, then by all means stick to your beliefs,
but why must you call other peoples opinions silly, or resort to name calling ??

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
I think its an odd quirk to be willing to send a toddler/grown man into one rest room but not the other.
Of course that's just my opinion.

a grown man belongs in the mens room,,not the ladies room..it's fairly simple logic

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
Yup. And he helped wipe her little rear end after going too. So are you gonna turn this into something more than it was Scarlett, cuz if you are, I don't really give a damn!!!

I didn't realize it was a McDonald's with only one bathroom...i.e. only one person can use it at a time. No problem with that...it's just not how I read your original response.

 

[onecoolmama]

Originally posted by ScarlettO
I didn't realize it was a McDonald's with only one bathroom...i.e. only one person can use it at a time. No problem with that...it's just not how I read your original response.

I read it wrong too at first. But, it is not the same thing as what the original poster was talking about. You are talking about a private bathroom, where the door locks, and not more then 1 person should be in there at a time (unless you have a young child.) I can't imagine the parent in the OP's story going in a one room bathroom with the 13 year old. The point of the story was that the 13yo was in a Ladies Room...completely different then the type of bathroom you are speaking of and therefore creates a completely different reaction.

I am assuming now, that your father would not take your daughter into a public ladies restroom. I am assuming if there were more then a few stalls he woud have taken her into the Men's room and held the door of the stall for her until she was done and then as you said "wiped her little tussie."

Your story was completely different.

 

[gymnasticsmom68]

Well, if it was just a Grandpa taking his Granddaughter to the potty, where there was only ONE potty, what does that have to do with this discussion?

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Originally posted by ScarlettO
Are you saying that grandpa went into the ladies room wwith the granddaughter? Or am I misreading this?
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Yup. And he helped wipe her little rear end after going too. So are you gonna turn this into something more than it was Scarlett, cuz if you are, I don't really give a damn!!!

You say right here, that it WAS the Ladies room. I knew I wasn't losing my mind. You wanted us to see that Grandpa went in the Ladies room with your little girl, and that you find nothing wrong with that.

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
Well, if it was just a Grandpa taking his Granddaughter to the potty, where there was only ONE potty, what does that have to do with this discussion?



You say right here, that it WAS the Ladies room. I knew I wasn't losing my mind. You wanted us to see that Grandpa went in the Ladies room with your little girl, and that you find nothing wrong with that.

in the McDonalds near my house, there are two restrooms. each is a prvitate, one person room with a door that locks. one is labeled "men" and the other "women." I'd have no objection if a parent with a young child were to go inot the "wrong" restroom, because they're not disturbing anyone else. I've no objection to a father helping a 3 year old in the bathroom.

I do have a prolbem with a 3 year old throwing hissy fits in public and being allowed to get her way.

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
Well, if it was just a Grandpa taking his Granddaughter to the potty, where there was only ONE potty, what does that have to do with this discussion?



You say right here, that it WAS the Ladies room. I knew I wasn't losing my mind. You wanted us to see that Grandpa went in the Ladies room with your little girl, and that you find nothing wrong with that.

You're right. I find nothing wrong in Grandpa going into the ladies room, the mens room or the communal bathroom with my little girl.

He did it many times. And yep, we called the potty the "ladies room". LOL

So let's see if I have this right. First, I'm taken to task for allowing my little one to "manipulate" me and Grandpa. Ooookay. LOL

Then, I'm going to be taken to task for not finding anything horrifying in the discovery of a male in a ladies room or any other "type" of restroom.

Ooookay.......

I love these threads!!

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457


I do have a prolbem with a 3 year old throwing hissy fits in public and being allowed to get her way.

Oh gosh, me too! Don't you hate when that happens?

 

[CEDmom]

Originally posted by onecoolmama
I read it wrong too at first. But, it is not the same thing as what the original poster was talking about. You are talking about a private bathroom, where the door locks, and not more then 1 person should be in there at a time (unless you have a young child.) I can't imagine the parent in the OP's story going in a one room bathroom with the 13 year old. The point of the story was that the 13yo was in a Ladies Room...completely different then the type of bathroom you are speaking of and therefore creates a completely different reaction.

I am assuming now, that your father would not take your daughter into a public ladies restroom. I am assuming if there were more then a few stalls he woud have taken her into the Men's room and held the door of the stall for her until she was done and then as you said "wiped her little tussie."

Your story was completely different.

You didn't read it wrong at first, the poster said Ladies room and then clarified it as single unisex bathroom.

As far as the issue the OP brought up the place she was at did have a family bathroom and that's where those patrons should have been. However, they may have not known it existed and the 13 yo may have had issues that prevented him from using the mens room. As I suggested earlier that places with family bathrooms should have signs indicating this on the mens/ladies room.

With all the horrible things that can happen to children I think we adults need to be aware of who's around and why they are there. For me an older boy in the ladies room would set off a red flag whether he was with a woman or not. I wouldn't say anything but I'd keep an eye on the situation.

Just today I saw an older gentleman sitting in a car in the parking lot at DD's school. I told a staff member when I went inside and it turns out the man was doing a traffic survey. However, you just never know.

 

[jipsy]

Wow.

All I can say is that I read the original post. Sonya said

He was taller than I am and probably 13. Granted he could be an older looking 10 year old but still, it suprised me. A lot of the women in there were giving each other funny looks.

and somehow that sentence has morphed through this whole thread into how horrible it is for a 13 year old boy to be in the ladies room.

When my son was 10 years old he was very tall for his age and many people thought he was 13 or 14. Do those of you who feel it was wrong for a 13 year old boy to be in the bathroom with his mother feel the same way about a very tall 10 year old boy? The fact is, no one really knows how old he is or the real reason why he was in there with a woman and a small child.

And, (I can't believe I'm agreeing wth HMG) while I don't believe in allowing a 3 year old to manipulate anyone, I also don't see anything wrong with a Grandfather taking a 3 year old to the bathroom, whether it's a men's room, a ladies room or a unisex bathroom. If it's just a toilet and a sink, the door can be locked so that no one else can enter while the grampa helps her and if it's a bathroom with stalls, big freaking deal. Grampa's probably seen more "action" than anyone else in the bathroom combined, and I would imagine at that point in his life, he's more concrned with helping his granddaughter to pee-pee than he is trying to get a peek of your underwear through the crack in the door in the stall. And even if he does get a peek, let the man have a quick thrill. At a Grandpa's age, it's probably the only thrill he gets.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by aprilgail2
I find this whole things about 13 years olds going into the bathroom with parents pretty strange....heck at 13 my god daughter is going to the mall/ movies and other places without any parent, I couldn't imagine a kid at that age going in the ladies room with mom or dad. A few years back we dropped both kids brother 13 and sister 11 off at a water park for the day on their own...

Some parents are more protective than others. I, for one, will always err on the side of caution and safety.
My kids did not go to the mall without an adult at 13 and most definitely not to a water park. Lifeguards are not babysitters.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
HMG, I think I would have let the little darling wet her pants before I allowed her to manipulate me in the manner your granddaughter obviously manipulated her grandfather.

Mine would have had a very warm butt to wipe. Hissy fit my butt.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

ROTFLMAO She was around 3 at the time. Three year old children manipulate. That's what they DO!

No, they TRY to manipulate, they only win if you let them. Who's in charge? Hmmm, seems to me the answer is obvious.

 

[nuke]

No, they TRY to manipulate, they only win if you let them. Who's in charge? Hmmm, seems to me the answer is obvious.

Do you know her Gail? Do you know how she raised her child? Did you witness who had authority in her family? Where you there at the time of this incident?

Some things are obvious to me, judgemental people for example, parenting skills from posts on a disney board are not.