I am SO ANGRY - Girl Scouts Rant (LONG): UPDATE Pg.12

[nuttylawprofessor]

" Hi, Ms. Snottypockets? Yes, this is sydally, little sydally's mom. Yes, I was wondering why I hadn't received any info about Six Flags Scout Day. Isn't the troop going?"

Regardless, she MUST be reported to your local council and ask the council to help you find a new troop. Maybe it would be good to find a troop that is made of girls from a different school.

 

[sydally9367]

" Hi, Ms. Snottypockets? Yes, this is sydally, little sydally's mom. Yes, I was wondering why I hadn't received any info about Six Flags Scout Day. Isn't the troop going?"

Regardless, she MUST be reported to your local council and ask the council to help you find a new troop. Maybe it would be good to find a troop that is made of girls from a different school.

Ms.Snottypockets Oh how TRUE that is!!! This is the lady who drives the custom BMW SUV with a license plate holder that says "I'm not spoiled, my husband just loves me"

 

[DisneyDotty]

OP--This is horrid and totally unacceptable. Definitely do report this woman to council. She has no business being a leader anywhere.
My daughter has had the good fortune of having a fantastic leader for the past 8 years. I hope you will have similar good fortune in finding a new troop for your daughter.
A big to both of you. Nothing aches like the sobs of child who has been wronged.
Please keep us posted.

 

[MiniGirl]

You know.... I don't mean to make things worse than they are, but I went and reread your original post. In it, you mention how they have done other activities and excluded your dd. However, they were outside activities, so you really couldn't do anything about it. Anyway, I'm now wondering if troop funds weren't used at some of these other activities as well. It would be interesting to audit the books for this year. I wouldn't really call for an audit. It just makes me wonder. KWIM?

 

[hentob]

The co leader is just as responsible. By going along with her she is giving her okay to exclude your daughter. Call the co-leader again and explain that since she is just as responsible then you have no choice but to call the council about them both.

I agree.

What a sad thing Pathetic. I would never allow my daughter to be a part of that group again.

I would go over everyone and call the council.

 

[kristen821]

Wow I give you so much credit for waiting until you calm down to make that phone call. I wouldn't be able to control myself. I would try to find another troop in your area.

 

[MOMTOMOOTOO]

How horrible. I cannot believe people can be so mean. I would not call her, I would go directly to the council. I also thinjk the co leader is just as responsible for allowing this behavior. If someone approcahed me about excluding one scout from an event, I would tell her in no uncertain terms, that maybe she and her daughter should go it alone. The co leader needs a backbone.

 

[Disney Debbie]

By this is the last year - do you mean this school year - so she'll be gone by June? If not - I wouldn't let my DD near that woman or her evil spawn. What's so pathetic is this stupid woman is doing her daughter NO favors! It's hard for your DD to see it this way - but she's the lucky one - she'll realize it when she's older. Little monsters like that that end up w/drug or alcohol problems, having sex WAY too early and absolutely no self worth because they think it's money - not even her own money but her parent - is what "makes" them.

 

[janette]

Definitely go to the council, this breaks all kinds of rules.

You as a parent can request a copy of the troops budget at anytime and the council can review it also. If they paid for the trip it will show up there, she might decide to dig into those deep pockets and put the $$ back in the troop fund but if the expense is there you have all the proof you need.

Is she taking the troop with her? The troop $$ stays with the troop, if her DD leaves she can't take the $$ unless they continue the troop in her new area. If they are in the same council they can do that. If not the new leader takes over the funds.

 

[Jennasis]

1. Call the council and report the troop leader, the assistant leader and the little witch member. I don't know if hirl scouts "expel" people but all 3 really need the boot.

2. I would have the council demand an apology from the leader and her daughter publicly, in front of the troop, to your daughter.

3. I would take her yourself to Six Flags on the same day the troop is going.

This type of snotty, elitist, crap does not fly with me at all. Frankly, forget calming down...I'd be on their doorstep.

 

[PrettyInTink]

CALL THE COUNCIL!

I was a Brownie, then a Girl Scout and it was my NERD OASIS!
As a child scouts was the only place I felt I could be myself. Your DD deserves that right as well. I definitely think you should keep your cool (but be firm) as you handle it. You showing your dd what TRUE respect and grace is reflects everything the scouts are SUPPOSED to be made of. Obviously this imposter of a leader has no clue what her job as leader is and she's abusing the privelege.

Pixie dust to your sweet little girl. The best lesson you can teach her is that its OK to be a nerd, just be herself.

 

[UrsulasMyHero]

I'm terribly sorry this has happened to you and your daughter. I can only echo what everyone else is saying. Please keep us upto date... I want to know what happens.

 

[ZPT1022]

I would put in two calls- to the service unit manager, and to council. I would also consider a call to the school principal since it seems that there has been some bullying on school grounds. At this late point in the year I'd be tempted to pull my DD out for the rest of the year and start fresh next year. Perhaps you can become a leader or she can be an independent girl scout. I am sorry that this is happening to your DD. As a leader I find it appalling. My DD is in my troop and if anything I am harder on her than on anyone else. I expect MORE from her at meetings and events.

 

[southernbohemian]

I'm sorry this is happening and I think you should basically perform a coup. This lady should not be allowed around any children, much less under the guise of a GS leader.

I would call the leader and tell her how things are going to be. Don't play dumb and don't ask for explanations as this gives her a feeling of being in control of the situation. If she tries to interrupt, tell her that you are not finished and continue. You are in control. First, tell her that you were informed that your daughter was not invited to a troop function and that she, an "adult", was behind this. Tell her that this is not only unacceptable behavior from an adult to a child, but that it is also ILLEGAL. Tell her that you are not only reporting her to the council, asking for her removal from your troop, but also asking that they ban her from any future GS work. Tell her that if she does not IMMEDIATELY resign from her position then you will do 2 things: 1.) hire a lawyer and 2.) go to the press. The news would eat this up if they had it, and I'm sure she'd love if all of her rich friends found out she was picking on a child. I would then wait for her response. If she goes on and on, yelling even, calmly ask her if you can expect her resignation by the end of the day. I would also somehow work in that your daughter WILL be attending the Six Flags event, that you will be going as a chaperone, and that her daughter is welcome to attend as well, but you would prefer if the leader had no contact whatsoever with your or her daughter as you would prefer your daughter not to be associated with people like her.

Keep it short, be firm, and knock her socks off. She won't know what hit her.

 

[sha_lyn]

I can't even imagine how upset you are. I'm furious just thinking about it.

 

[englishteacha]

That makes me so angry. I was a Brownie and Junior scout, and bridged to Cadets, but there were no troops in my area. There are definitely some girls who don't follow the Girl Scout Law (the darn meanies!) but for a leader to leave someone out is even more horrendous. I hope you get the situation straightened out and that your daughter never has to see this woman or her child again.

 

[BriarfoxinWA]

I'm sorry this is happening and I think you should basically perform a coup. This lady should not be allowed around any children, much less under the guise of a GS leader.

I would call the leader and tell her how things are going to be. Don't play dumb and don't ask for explanations as this gives her a feeling of being in control of the situation. If she tries to interrupt, tell her that you are not finished and continue. You are in control. First, tell her that you were informed that your daughter was not invited to a troop function and that she, an "adult", was behind this. Tell her that this is not only unacceptable behavior from an adult to a child, but that it is also ILLEGAL. Tell her that you are not only reporting her to the council, asking for her removal from your troop, but also asking that they ban her from any future GS work. Tell her that if she does not IMMEDIATELY resign from her position then you will do 2 things: 1.) hire a lawyer and 2.) go to the press. The news would eat this up if they had it, and I'm sure she'd love if all of her rich friends found out she was picking on a child. I would then wait for her response. If she goes on and on, yelling even, calmly ask her if you can expect her resignation by the end of the day. I would also somehow work in that your daughter WILL be attending the Six Flags event, that you will be going as a chaperone, and that her daughter is welcome to attend as well, but you would prefer if the leader had no contact whatsoever with your or her daughter as you would prefer your daughter not to be associated with people like her.

Keep it short, be firm, and knock her socks off. She won't know what hit her.

I like the way you think!

I'm truly appalled at this woman's behavior as a GS leader. I was a GS from Brownies through Cadet and my mom was a co-leader, leader, and part of the council - no way that kind of crap would be tolerated.

 

[mirthmaiden]

Actually, I agree with the call the leader and play dumb because you know if you call the council first she will say something like, "No, we never excluded this girl. Truth is she doesn't get along with one of the girls and this girl must've told her she couldn't come. But, of course, she is welcome." It will become a your daughter's word against the leader's word, and unfortunately, I don't think it would go well for your dd.

Oh..... better yet.... e-mail her asking for specifics. That why you don't have to wait until you calm down, and you'll have her written response to you.

Good luck, and please let us know how it turns out.

Hugs to you and your sweet dd, too.

I completely agree with MiniGirl. I would not call this woman because it could easily get emotional. You want to keep a cool head. If it's possible to e-mail, I would do that. Like she said, that way you'll have it in writing. And I would still go up the chain of command no matter what the response is. Finally, as heartbreaking as it is, I would not let your DD go on the trip. Lord knows what kind of evil ostracizing she would have to endure once there. Call the council, find out if there's another troop, and maybe do something special for DD and some of her real friends.

 

[annegal]

"Well, leader DD didn't want your DD to go and it's not my decision, I told leader it wasn't acceptable, but she wants to cater to her DD".

I also thought maybe they assumed it would be too expensive for us, but THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE PAYING FOR IT..IT'S FREE. I am BEYOND livid, ?

There was NO money for that sort of trip when I was in the Girl Scouts.

Besides that, get your DD oout of that troop ASAP....why subject her to such crass & nasty people????

 

[mickeysgal]

My concern is that this woman is going to backpedal all over this if confronted about it. She may claim that its not an official group outing, but rather friends getting together to go. OP, you're going to have to get her somehow to link the two together. In other words confirm that this outing is a Girl Scout outing. Be prepared though, when cornered, this woman may say, "of course, your daughter is invited". She may realize that she can't get away with what she's attempted.

Your poor daughter.