I am SO ANGRY - Girl Scouts Rant (LONG): UPDATE Pg.12

[sydally9367]

A responsible leader would have checked with all the girls, and their parents, beofre finalizing the arrangements for a trip. Esepecially with a troop the size of your daughter's troop.

So even if you accept her lies as "truth" you have her acting totally irresponsibly. call the council Monday.

I do hope the co-leader grows a backbone and confrims what she told you to the council.

I did just speak with the co-leader via the phone and she is going to call the council on Monday as well to confirm our conversation yesterday. She has previously not made mention of the exclusions because her and Ms.Snottypockets were friends, but she now realizes how wrong and hurtful it is to those excluded and wants to own up to her part in letting this continue. Co-leader also confirmed to me that Ms.Snottypockets DID make phone calls to finalize arrangements, she just didn't call my home..so that says it all right there IMHO.

Luckily, Ms.Snottypockets and the entire Snottypockets family just moved into a more ritzier and flashy neighborhood; she used to live a few houses over from me and I can just imagine how fun that would be if she still lived here!

 

[clh2]

Yeah right. Months ago. Sorry, I don't believe it for a minute.

If her council audited her books, that the dates the parents filled in on the permission slips wouldn't say "months ago" as opposed to "a week ago."

 

[Kath2003]

Are you friendly with the mothers of the other girls in the pack? Perhaps you could get an email from them stating that they received a confirmation phone call and information prior to the trip?

 

[sydally9367]

Are you friendly with the mothers of the other girls in the pack? Perhaps you could get an email from them stating that they received a confirmation phone call and information prior to the trip?

Well, I think the problem there is not only does my DD get excluded, but I have been excluded as well (from Mom get togethers). It doesn't phase me because I know I don't need "friends" like that and like I said before, I think the leader created this troop because it was all of her adult friends and their children. I should also mention that only the leaders daughter is mean to my DD; all of the other girls are very friendly and they get along quite nicely; I just think the other girls prefer to spend their "free" time with leader DD because they go out and spend gobs of money on their outings and we prefer to go on picnics, spend a day at the park and things of that nature. We're not cheap by any means, but we are a military family, so we just don't have TONS of extra cash to spend on taking the girls on spending sprees, etc.

 

[mylilnikita]

I am SO Sorry your DD had to go through this. My DD8 is in GS and her troop leader ALWAYS emails upcoming events in advance, then puts out a couple more emails and reminds us at meeting if we want to do certain events. So there is ample notification, even telling us when she has to let certain events know how many people.

Hope everything turns out, hope Mrs. Snottypockets gets kicked out.

 

[Kath2003]

Well, I think the problem there is not only does my DD get excluded, but I have been excluded as well (from Mom get togethers). It doesn't phase me because I know I don't need "friends" like that and like I said before, I think the leader created this troop because it was all of her adult friends and their children. I should also mention that only the leaders daughter is mean to my DD; all of the other girls are very friendly and they get along quite nicely; I just think the other girls prefer to spend their "free" time with leader DD because they go out and spend gobs of money on their outings and we prefer to go on picnics, spend a day at the park and things of that nature. We're not cheap by any means, but we are a military family, so we just don't have TONS of extra cash to spend on taking the girls on spending sprees, etc.

Ah well, never mind.
And you don't have to be broke and destitute to understand that a nice time with friends ad family doesn't need to cost the Earth (or indeed even a single dime) - I'd rather go spend the day at the park with friends than spend a fortune at the mall.
I guess these aren't values they've instilled in their daughter
(I'm sure they'll be able to buy her some new friends when hers wake up and smell the coffee).

 

[sydally9367]

Ah well, never mind.
And you don't have to be broke and destitute to understand that a nice time with friends ad family doesn't need to cost the Earth (or indeed even a single dime) - I'd rather go spend the day at the park with friends than spend a fortune at the mall.
I guess these aren't values they've instilled in their daughter

Don't get me wrong, my DD loves to shop till she drops as much as the next kid, but she LOVES being outdoors. She prefers reading Zoobooks to any other material, she watches Animal Planet and Discovery Kids more than she watches Nickelodeon and when she gets her time on the computer, instead of playing games, she goes to endangered species websites and reads up on all of her favorite animals.

I also feel bad for my DH; he is actually pretty good friends with the leaders DH and they get together once a month to play cards. Somehow, the DH isn't a Mr.Snottypockets and is very amicable but I guess we know how wears the Prada shoes in that family!

 

[Amlee]

The council should be able to find out when all the arrangements were made, simply by calling the hotel and such. Since GS funds are being used, they should have the right to check such things. I'm willing to bet, if it was something done recent, that the rich witch didn't think about any of that.

 

[kimmikayb]

The council should be able to find out when all the arrangements were made, simply by calling the hotel and such. Since GS funds are being used, they should have the right to check such things. I'm willing to bet, if it was something done recent, that the rich witch didn't think about any of that.

Also, the leader has to send in a form to go on any trips, especially overnights to council. She also has to have special training for overnights.

I'm glad the co leader is choosing the right road.

 

[Laurabearz]

Pipping in again sorry..

But I would insist on a AUDIT of the troops funds. Send the request in writing to as many people as you can. If the leader is so willing to skip over you, one must wonder how many other times she 'forgot' to call you.

Even if the audit shows nothing, it will be a pain in the butt for the leader to deal with.

 

[hentob]

Pipping in again sorry..

But I would insist on a AUDIT of the troops funds. Send the request in writing to as many people as you can. If the leader is so willing to skip over you, one must wonder how many other times she 'forgot' to call you.

Even if the audit shows nothing, it will be a pain in the butt for the leader to deal with.

OP--PLEASE take the advice of Laurabearz!!!!!!!!!!

Very, very good suggestion!!!

 

[MerryPoppins]

As a past GS and BS leader I am shocked at this woman's behavior! Please let us know what happens. Lots of good advice here.

 

[piglet too]

I am so saddened that there is a youth leader who would act in this manner. You have gotten lots of good advice here. Please let us know what happens.

 

[mickeysgal]

I did just speak with the co-leader via the phone and she is going to call the council on Monday as well to confirm our conversation yesterday. She has previously not made mention of the exclusions because her and Ms.Snottypockets were friends, but she now realizes how wrong and hurtful it is to those excluded and wants to own up to her part in letting this continue. Co-leader also confirmed to me that Ms.Snottypockets DID make phone calls to finalize arrangements, she just didn't call my home..so that says it all right there IMHO.

I'm glad she is going to do this. This is going to be a huge help to you when you go to the council. She realizes that not only has this been wrong, but most likely to keep her hands clean of any involvement and blame.

Make that mom and daughter weekend a good one. Your daughter (and you) need it

OMG - why oh why can't adults simply grow up and stop this type of behavior? It really makes me wonder sometimes about people...

 

[coolbeans]

I don't post often on threads that make me mad but...this whole thing has me fuming!! I can't believe that a parent would treat someone's child this way!!!
I hope that you and your DD have a great mom-daughter weekend, and please post how this turns out!

 

[UrsulasMyHero]

I too, am glad that the Co-leader is stepping up to back you in this. The leader has done wrong, and really needs to be removed. She's white trash with money.

 

[Erin1700]

What a horrible thing to go thru. I wish a bunch of us could get together with our DD's and show your DD great time!! who needs those nasty girls?Have fun on your mother daughter weekend!

 

[RNMOM]

I spent several years working with cub and boy scouts and yes, there are always people that you would rather not have to deal with in your kids group. I am SURE I was the same to other people too. That is not the issue. These groups are to help kids learn the skills needed to deal with other people and situations than those they encounter in their family or in school. Malls are probably not what the scouts had in mind for outings anyway.

I agree about finding, or starting, another troup. I also think your daughter is very lucky to have a mom that will go to such extents to fight for what is right and to make sure she has a good time even though she has been treated unfairly by others. Too often we tend to brush things off as too much trouble but it is important to your daughter and she knows it is important to you too.

 

[Val]

These types of situations are why my youngest DD quit girl scouts. She has hearing loss and wears bilateral aids. Her old troop was her Catholic school troop. Our (almost) former parish (2 more weeks of school) is a rich-witch parish. The kids in her troop teased her and called her the deaf girl. Parent leader did nothing....she was always excluded from the major events. Once the leader even told me that she didn't think accomodations could be made for my DD (WHAT accommodations? She can do anything any other girl can do!). So we left. DD9 is much, much happier! She goest to Camp Lions every year, so she can get her camp experience in, and we camp alot as a family. Hopefully there will be a troop at her new public school next year.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Pipping in again sorry..

But I would insist on a AUDIT of the troops funds. Send the request in writing to as many people as you can. If the leader is so willing to skip over you, one must wonder how many other times she 'forgot' to call you.

Even if the audit shows nothing, it will be a pain in the butt for the leader to deal with.

I hope you do this! I'm still flabbergasted that an adult would do this to a child. She needs to be removed so she can not do this to another girl while hiding behind the name of Girl Scouts.