I am SO ANGRY - Girl Scouts Rant (LONG): UPDATE Pg.12

[Alicnwondrln]

I would also be calling the council
that woman should not be in charge of a troop

 

[Alicnwondrln]

I did just speak with the co-leader via the phone and she is going to call the council on Monday as well to confirm our conversation yesterday. She has previously not made mention of the exclusions because her and Ms.Snottypockets were friends, but she now realizes how wrong and hurtful it is to those excluded and wants to own up to her part in letting this continue. Co-leader also confirmed to me that Ms.Snottypockets DID make phone calls to finalize arrangements, she just didn't call my home..so that says it all right there IMHO.

Luckily, Ms.Snottypockets and the entire Snottypockets family just moved into a more ritzier and flashy neighborhood; she used to live a few houses over from me and I can just imagine how fun that would be if she still lived here!

thats great
I hope she does
what the "leader"is doing is so wrong on so many levels

 

[grlpwrd]

You know, I am heavily involved with Girl Scouts on an administrative and leader level (though I prefer to work with the girls )and I am glad to hear that you confronted her like you did and spoke out.

It just takes one person to make a difference... you are a wonderful role model to your daughter and all affected. GS needs more people like you, that's for sure.

Happy Mother's Day!

 

[barkley]

i don't think what the leader did was right-but be aware that your reno nevada council has next friday displayed on their web site as 'paramount's great america girl scout day' and allows for registration for events on-line. it might be interesting to see what would happen if you tried to access the registration for your troop's trip-seems to me that if the trip or other trips were truly open to all troop members it would be loaded into the system (and if not, the troop leader better have a paper trail showing how she notified ALL the parents of the troop activities (and given that one of your council's top board members is the senior dept. attny general of the state of nevada i would'nt want to be in her shoes of a financial audit show any misappropriate actions involving scouting funds ).

 

[RitaZ.]

]I would now ask all the other moms to forward you the email she sent out and see if indeed you were CC'd on it.......[/B] With a troop of only FIVE kids... I mean geez... our brownies group is well over 20 girls and NO ISSUES with sending out lots of reminders and such.


The LEADER dropped the ball on this... big time.

I would do that.

I must say, that woman is quite good at covering her tracks.

 

[BuzznBelle'smom]

I have to second (third, twentieth...) the motion for requesting an audit. If your DD has been contributing financially to the troop (dues, cookie sales, etc.), she should be sharing in ALL expenses. There may have been other things you don't even know about, that the troop has paid for but your DD was excluded from. This goes against EVERYTHING Girl Scouts stands for!

And I'm loving what barkley said--this woman could be in some serious hot water if she misappropriated funds.

I'm so sorry your DD is going through this. Please try not to let her blame scouting for these problems. Scouts can be a huge benefit to girls and boys.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

i don't think what the leader did was right-but be aware that your reno nevada council has next friday displayed on their web site as 'paramount's great america girl scout day' and allows for registration for events on-line. it might be interesting to see what would happen if you tried to access the registration for your troop's trip-seems to me that if the trip or other trips were truly open to all troop members it would be loaded into the system (and if not, the troop leader better have a paper trail showing how she notified ALL the parents of the troop activities (and given that one of your council's top board members is the senior dept. attny general of the state of nevada i would'nt want to be in her shoes of a financial audit show any misappropriate actions involving scouting funds ).

I agree with this

 

[MareQ]

Holly these are exactly the type of people you don't want your daughter to be around - and the mothers are no different than the leader IMO. How can any self respecting MOM knowingly take part in a trip when they KNOW one CHILD is being excluded???

Unfortunately I face this alot with Nick because he's a Special Needs child. Not only will he be excluded - the kids will make damn sure he knows he's being excluded. They will pass out invitations in class to everybody but him, talk about the upcoming party, talk aboute it afterwards. I even have moms come up to me and apologize to be about how they TOLD "Little Johnny" to be fair and invite everybody to the party -but after all you can't make kids like other kids that are... "different''' no matter how hard you try. These conversations usually take place right in front of him too.... (Nick is 9 also )

We focus a great deal on the one kid that thinks the sun rises and sets over Nick... I'd much rather Nick have one great TRUE friend - than a lot of little "polite" and "PC" fake friends.

Unfortunately - that's something only a mom can understand- so like you're doing now - I suffer with Nick - even though I know he shouldn't be sad - but it's hard to see our children excluded - for silly reasons - for things out of their control and it's INFURIATING when grown woman allow petty crap like this to happen - at this young of an age.

Just know that you'll NEVER be one of those moms and your daughter will never be one of those kids.

 

[Arielfn93]

As a girl scout, i read this and i am so sorry that your daughter and you had to go through that. In my troop, all of us are very close, at meetings and at school and such. Our troop recently had a change of troop leader, because our leader was very old and retired. Her daughter was very mean though, and she and her other friend would always be doing their own thing, and excluding the rest of the troop. Our new leader and her daughter are very kind though. We always go outdoors and have a great time at our meetings.

I hope that everything works out for you and your daughter!

 

[nbodyhome]

I would call the council - if nothing is resolved, I'd actually contact the newspaper (in an editorial, if nothing else).

 

[mickeysgal]

Unfortunately I face this alot with Nick because he's a Special Needs child. Not only will he be excluded - the kids will make damn sure he knows he's being excluded. They will pass out invitations in class to everybody but him, talk about the upcoming party, talk aboute it afterwards. I even have moms come up to me and apologize to be about how they TOLD "Little Johnny" to be fair and invite everybody to the party -but after all you can't make kids like other kids that are... "different''' no matter how hard you try. These conversations usually take place right in front of him too.... (Nick is 9 also )

I'm so sorry that this happens to your child. It makes me ill.

 

[powellrj]

I am so sorry this happened to your DD. I loved GS and wanted my DD to be a part of the program.

The first year my DD was eligible, my father was ill and we couldn't join the troop that year. I had told her we would join the next year. We never received the information, so I really forgot about it.

Fast forward a couple of years. One of the moms on DD basketball team was talking about a girl scout outing and I mentioned that I didn't realize there was a troop, that we had never received any information after the first year. The mom said that it was an invitation only troop. I just shook my head and was thinking how glad I was we didn't get involved.

I hope there is another troop you can get together with. Your story really broke my heart.

 

[nuttylawprofessor]

Karma is a real kicker. There are ALWAYS people with more money and ALWAYS bigger fish in the pond/lake/ocean. They will get theirs eventually.

Extra hugs to your DD.

 

[Disney Doll]

Sorry...I am not giving the co-leader a pass on this one either. She should be ashamed of herself too...letting this pass like it has.

Get a copy of the e-mail the leader supposedly originally sent out. See if your name is included on it. Call the Council, explain your concerns, mention your fear of misappropriation of funds. Recommend that they examine this troop leader and situation very closely, because you really don't want to have to keep going up the chain of command but you will if necessary.

 

[becjlek]

I say go for the audit, get a copy of the emails, and lay a guilt trip on the co leader so she will back you up. She knows everything the troop did and excluded your daughter. Try to get her to help you to avoid going down with the ship. (Kind of like making a deal with the DA to avoid jail time.)

 

[Tazicket]

These types of situations are why my youngest DD quit girl scouts. She has hearing loss and wears bilateral aids. Her old troop was her Catholic school troop. Our (almost) former parish (2 more weeks of school) is a rich-witch parish. The kids in her troop teased her and called her the deaf girl. Parent leader did nothing....she was always excluded from the major events. Once the leader even told me that she didn't think accomodations could be made for my DD (WHAT accommodations? She can do anything any other girl can do!). So we left. DD9 is much, much happier! She goest to Camp Lions every year, so she can get her camp experience in, and we camp alot as a family. Hopefully there will be a troop at her new public school next year.

My heart aches for what your DD, the OP's DD, and other posters' children have gone through. Big hugs to all of you. And Hooray for Mom's who kick tail! Happy Mothers Day to all of you.

And OP, I hope you and your daughter will find another troup somewhere. Way to show her that you completely support her!

 

[PaulaSue]

I haven't read all but I am so dissappointed in the Leader. That is so NOT what Girl Scouts is for.

 

[lisajl]

Well, I think the problem there is not only does my DD get excluded, but I have been excluded as well (from Mom get togethers). It doesn't phase me because I know I don't need "friends" like that and like I said before, I think the leader created this troop because it was all of her adult friends and their children. I should also mention that only the leaders daughter is mean to my DD; all of the other girls are very friendly and they get along quite nicely; I just think the other girls prefer to spend their "free" time with leader DD because they go out and spend gobs of money on their outings and we prefer to go on picnics, spend a day at the park and things of that nature. We're not cheap by any means, but we are a military family, so we just don't have TONS of extra cash to spend on taking the girls on spending sprees, etc.

I'm sorry that they treated your DD this way. This is why I quit G.S. when I was about 12. The leader would let her DD do anything, we could not though.
At any rate, your DD will be a more well adjusted person than the leaders DD.
You are doing the right thing and your DD I'm sure, appreciates it.
And, you are right about not spending a lot of money. We are not rich, but try to go on vacations every year. Our kids prefer it when we stay closer to home and go to the park, the zoo, etc. You don't need to spend a lot of money on your kids.
Good luck!

Lisa

 

[Deb & Bill]

Make sure you get the money that your daughter raised for the troop credited to her new troop. That might reduce the amount of money they have for this trip. Go back several years if you have to. Hit them in the pocketbook.

 

[Girls Scout Leader]

I, too, have not read all the posts: I believe it would make me sick.

After all is said and done, she is reported, there is a paper trail of abuse, think of this...

Have you ever thought of beginning a troop of your own? Just because there is a troop already in place, does not mean there cannot be another. You had mentioned that your daughter has many friends. Think of what Girl Scouts, the REAL Girl Scouts could do for THOSE girls! Kick it up a notch!!