Huge Strollers

[starshine514]

For the person who stated that I cannot say what bothers me, you must be kidding. I think I have clearly said those huge strollers take up way more room in restrooms, elevators, path ways, restaurants. Makes it hard for the rest of us to move around. Need I go on.

Also, you can't tell me that two single strollers in front of eachother take up more room than a double (again, huge double). They are not blocking the way when they are inline.

You stated that you're not being rude and taking a big stroller for you baby and 7 & 9 year old (just a single). OK... with that you seem to be arguing that you're making some sort of sacrifice by not taking a stroller for a 7 & 9 yr old (there's another thread debating taking a stroller for a 6 & 8 yr old, but most people would say that's not much of a sacrifice and would assume that most children of those ages should walk anyway, so your sacrifice is really not much of a sacrifice at all). Then, you (eventually) stated that you took in TWO strollers when your older children were younger. Two singles take up just as much, if not more space than a double. It doesn't matter much the shape of the space, you're still taking up space. Justify it to yourself as you choose.

 

[chttyangel]

I hope I never run into some of these people in this thread at Disneyland because the way they are defending their opinions reminds me of the nasty girls in high school.

I think that the OP was entitled to bring up their opinion.

I believe that those who oppose that opinion are warranted to share in their opinions as well.

However, the way some of you are approaching this seems downright disgusting.

I can see the pluses and minuses for both sides to this conversation... and I think it's too bad that we can't discuss this as adults.

Agreed 100%!!! And actually this is why I made the joke about learning not to bring up strollers. There are two very strong opinions on this subject. Neither side RARELY sees the others points and it always gets nasty. A few of the other boards I have seen the moderator shut the conversation down it got so bad.

For the record; I have 3 kids, have traveled the world, and have never brought more than an umbrella stroller. THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR ALL. I am not getting involved in the debate. I have no problem with it being brought up either thou; I just cringed because I knew it would go south!

 

[WDW 3]

Do you not see, that you are alone here? No one cares about strollers besides you! So quit being RUDE and inconsiderate of other people by asking them not to bring what they need into the parks, just to appease YOU.

Actually she is not alone. This entire thread makes me happy that my dd was so fearful of people in costumes that it wasn't an option to go to a Disney park until we didn't use a stoller. You say "need" but sometimes it isn't need so much as want and convenience which even you have to admit is sometimes the case. I have actually had scraped heels on more than one occation from oblivious stoller users. Kind of like folks that wear giant backpacks and don't realize that it has added a foot to their backs and obliviously slam it in to others (especially little kids heads that are about that level. We've just learned to give all these situations a wider berth.

 

[jennabennabofenna]

Once again, you both just proved my point. I also never said about child's ages, those were other posters and I do believe some people supported my opinion. Certainly the people like me who have been pushed into the back of an elevator, and out of store aisles see my point. I just really don't understand why people think that because they have kids entitles them to take up major space and plow on through. I do understand that a single person would need a double stroller, just not an SUV type like another poster said.

I will not say anymore as I think it's been talked about to death, but clearly people do care either way or this many of you wouldn't have responded.

clearly, your logic is flawed.

 

[J.J.]

To be honest...I wish I could bring a double stroller but since I only have one child I will bring the single.

(disclaimer) There are many reasons why my wife and I can't have another child and we wish we could. But we are blessed with the our DD and love as she would say, "from the moon and back".

Can I borrow someone elses child for a weekend?

 

[jennabennabofenna]

Do you not see, that you are alone here? No one cares about strollers besides you! So quit being RUDE and inconsiderate of other people by asking them not to bring what they need into the parks, just to appease YOU.

Actually she is not alone. This entire thread makes me happy that my dd was so fearful of people in costumes that it wasn't an option to go to a Disney park until we didn't use a stoller. You say "need" but sometimes it isn't need so much as want and convenience which even you have to admit is sometimes the case. I have actually had scraped heels on more than one occation from oblivious stoller users. Kind of like folks that wear giant backpacks and don't realize that it has added a foot to their backs and obliviously slam it in to others (especially little kids heads that are about that level. We've just learned to give all these situations a wider berth.

way to reach for something. Your first statement makes no sense to me.

& i think we have all been ran into by a stroller. I have. accidents happen. Sometimes people dont look where they are going. & by that i mean people who push/dont push strollers.
I have had SOO many people/groups of people walk right in front of me while im heading in a certain direction, and i have to stop because they are crossing through traffic with their whole family. But, i can never remember once, a stoller "cutting me off" at DL. In my experience, stroller pushers are MORE considerate of others, then people without.

 

[DBMC]

Ok, so saying that a person who brings a large stroller is rude, and always uses it to block peoples way, and shove into elevators etc. is perfectly fine. But the people who think that this generalization is wrong are the horrible ones? I just do not understand this.

Lumping everyone together that uses a large stroller is ridiculous. Just because you have had a bad experience with a large stroller user doesn't mean that they are all like that. It is likely that those people would be rude either way.

Like I said before, my husband was very courteous with the stroller. We always waited until there was plenty of room in an elevator, never shoved our way in. Most people were very considerate though, and would encourage us to join them if there was adequate space. It was certainly far more inconvenient to us than it was to anyone else.

I can understand saying "People should be more considerate about their stroller usage." That makes sense, and I could agree with that. But there are rude people in every category. Bringing the stroller that we owned does not make us rude, and we do not think that we are more important than other people.

 

[dbbydk]

To be honest...I wish I could bring a double stroller but since I only have one child I will bring the single.

(disclaimer) There are many reasons why my wife and I can't have another child and we wish we could. But we are blessed with the our DD and love as she would say, "from the moon and back".

Can I borrow someone elses child for a weekend?

You can borrow one of mine!

 

[nsiordia]

I've read your posts over and over and you still have yet to answer the basic questions other people have posted, which might be summed up as, "What exactly, specifically, in easy definitions, is the behavior that irks you? What should I be doing or avoid doing?" Because you have not said anything that says to me that I can in any way have a double stroller without it pissing you off unless I somehow manage to never be in your way and/or just submit to your definition of "respectful," which is bring a tiny stroller like you do, neither of which seem a reasonable request of others in a busy public space. The people who seem so rude to you here, that they don't care about others, are actually saying, "Wow, there is just NO WAY to please you, so I really just need to do what is best for my family and be as courteous as I can, but I guess there is just no pleasing everyone. Especially people like you, where there is only one correct way to be in the parks, which is your way."
If you can't spell out what specific behavior(s) is so bothersome (other than your perceptions about people's attitudes) once people explain that they need a particular stroller to suit their needs--a stroller different from the ones that satisfy your needs--people feel that they cannot find a reasonable way to accommodate you.

ETA: I would like to point out that in the course of this thread, prospective visiting parents have been told, among other things, that:
1) Anything bigger than an umbrella stroller is going to irk a variety of people.
2) Some people have 3yos (feel free to insert any other age you like) who can walk and stand all day in the park, so they are going to assume that yours should, too, as if all children are the same--or if the kids are not all the same, they will think it must be because you are doing something wrong.
3) If you try to use an alternative like the popular leashes/leash backpacks, that will just irk someone else.
4) You can't go shopping with your stroller, beause if there are tight spaces, you personally will be blamed for bringing the stroller rather than the poor shop design, even though my understanding is any place that is not wide enough for an average double stroller is not wide enough for an adult's wheelchair, which they should be by law. But using the stroller, unlike the wheelchair, is seen as being purely a choice, and a selfish one at that.

So let me be one who wants to thank all of you who are bringing strollers, no matter how large.
Thank you for bringing along a stroller that will carry the things that will help keep your children calm and happy while in the parks.
Thank you for bringing a stroller because you have a child like my 4yo, who would not make it through the day without some combination of lagging far behind the family or whining about how tired he is from the walking and how he needs a stroller or to be carried.
Thank you for bringing a stroller because you have a child like my whirling-dervish 2yo and you are doing your best to contain them when moving from one place to another or at a stationary event like a parade or WOC.
Thank you for trying to do the best for your family, because as a parent of a special-needs child with an "invisible" disability like my 7yo, I know how it is for you have to do things differently from others and feel people judging you for not conforming to their standards.
Thank you for bringing a stroller so you don't strain your back when a tired or sleepy child needs to be carried, because I want you to have a nice time, too. And being around other people who are having a more orderly, nicer time allows me to have a nicer time. So thank you.

Beautifully worded.

I also have a 6 year with an invisible disability and I don't care what people think of him in a stroller (he is very tall). It's what works best for our family and they are my #1 priority. I love the Disneyland strollers because my 8 year old still fits in it and gets tired too.

And for the $2000 I pay a year for Premium AP, I will bring in whatever I please as long as it is allowed.

Who cares about strollers!!!! really people, spend less time complaining and put your energy into something much more useful.

 

[Virgoinab]

I hope I never run into some of these people in this thread at Disneyland because the way they are defending their opinions reminds me of the nasty girls in high school.

I think that the OP was entitled to bring up their opinion.

I believe that those who oppose that opinion are warranted to share in their opinions as well.

However, the way some of you are approaching this seems downright disgusting.

I can see the pluses and minuses for both sides to this conversation... and I think it's too bad that we can't discuss this as adults.

Thank you for saying this, I thought for a bit reading this thread that I had stumbled into a facebook "lets bully the new girl and tell her no one likes her"

And if that offends others, sorry but some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. I have not a dog in this fight since my kids are teenagers and believe it or not, there are two sides to this coin.

I have seen and been hit by those who use large strollers just not caring who is in front of them, and used their stollers as a battering ram to get somewhere. With nary a backward glance to the damage they caused.

I have also seen those with large strollers be very considerate.

Goes both ways people.

 

[DBMC]

Thank you for saying this, I thought for a bit reading this thread that I had stumbled into a facebook "lets bully the new girl and tell her no one likes her"

And if that offends others, sorry but some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. I have not a dog in this fight since my kids are teenagers and believe it or not, there are two sides to this coin.

I have seen and been hit by those who use large strollers just not caring who is in front of them, and used their stollers as a battering ram to get somewhere. With nary a backward glance to the damage they caused.

I have also seen those with large strollers be very considerate.

Goes both ways people.

Exactly! It goes both ways. But OP flat out said that ANYONE who brings a large stroller is rude. People with any size stroller, and without a stroller can be rude too. That doesn't mean they all are.

 

[WDW 3]

Thank you for saying this, I thought for a bit reading this thread that I had stumbled into a facebook "lets bully the new girl and tell her no one likes her"

And if that offends others, sorry but some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. I have not a dog in this fight since my kids are teenagers and believe it or not, there are two sides to this coin.

I have seen and been hit by those who use large strollers just not caring who is in front of them, and used their stollers as a battering ram to get somewhere. With nary a backward glance to the damage they caused.

I have also seen those with large strollers be very considerate.

Goes both ways people.

YES

 

[jilld11]

I wasn't going to say anymore, but I just wanted to thank the last few posts. I do feel like I was bullied here and only for voicing my opinion. I obviously don't think all "stroller people" are rude. I have kids remember. I do think that even if you are not one of those inconsiderate people who push their wasy through with enourmous strollers you don't really realize the area you are blocking for people behind you, even if you are courteous to the people in front of you.

However, with saying that. I still believe that people who insist on taking their whole hotel room with them in a huge stroller are generally those that don't mind thinking of their comfort and noone else's. I also have not attacked other people specifically, just made the comment (however much repeatedly) at the people who insist their comfort should come at the expense of others.

To the person who says that two single strollers in front of the other doesn't take up more room, I must say they should know what I mean. If one is in front of the other, it doesn't block 5 feet across, even though it takes up 7 feet behind. Again, ,my numbers may not be exact, but I think we all know what I mean. Let's just be reasonable here. I can't get by a double huge stroller in the aisle, but could get by a single if they were in back and in front.

And, I do realize they are necessary for some, but not all and you know who you are.

I do enjoy my whole trips with my kids. I do not let this issue bother me when we are there. I was just posting an opinion and am sure that many of you will agree that you see people constantly trying to get around people, etc.

 

[Virgoinab]

Exactly! It goes both ways. But OP flat out said that ANYONE who brings a large stroller is rude. People with any size stroller, and without a stroller can be rude too. That doesn't mean they all are.

Yup and some have said in this thread that those with big strollers are more considerate then others.

See how both sides are arguing about the other generalizing, and yet it appears they are both doing it?

The op stated their opinion, agree to disagree (and I am not directing this at anyone specific) and worry about yourself and your family while in the park.

 

[DBMC]

Number one, to the person who said I can't be happy with anything, including the leashes, I did not say that, that was another poster.

Secondly, I realize there are rude people everywhere, but feel if someone is rude enought to bring in their "SUV" stroller, they are rude in general and really only concerned about their needs.

Obviously someone who has a special needs or disabled child will need special things. Noone is arguing with that.

I never said only an umbrella would be acceptable, there are many decent sized single and double strollers with sun covers, undercarraiges, etc.

If I am considerate of others enough to not bring in my huge stroller, you can bet I'm also not one of those adults standing and blocking the way.

Finally, if you want to say I was publically complaining, why do you think I posted the comment. Just hoping it would make some people think about others.

For the person who stated that I cannot say what bothers me, you must be kidding. I think I have clearly said those huge strollers take up way more room in restrooms, elevators, path ways, restaurants. Makes it hard for the rest of us to move around. Need I go on.

Also, you can't tell me that two single strollers in front of eachother take up more room than a double (again, huge double). They are not blocking the way when they are inline.

Seems simple to me.

 

[leazel]

Wow this thread post has been more entertaining than the "alcohol in the parks" posting a few wks ago. That being said, people will bring what strollers they happen to have. I doubt, ppl don't initially buy their strollers on the precursor that they may be go to Disneyland at some point.

I'm not bothered by any type of stroller, small, med, or whatever this SUV thing is. If the child is comfortable, thats all that matters. Coz, on the flipside, if that child wasn't able to take a nap in the "said" stroller imagine the meltdown that would ensue.

I also just bought a $2,300 stroller, just for Disneyland. My son is disabled and can't tell you how many times I accidently took out ppl's shins, last year w/his wheelchair. if you were one of them, I'm truly sorry. And don't worry, this isn't an SUV, I carefully measured the wheelbase, and length, just so I won't be "rude"

p.s Disneyland in 2wks!!

 

[DBMC]

Wow this thread post has been more entertaining than the "alcohol in the parks" posting a few wks ago. That being said, people will bring what strollers they happen to have. I doubt, ppl don't initially buy their strollers on the precursor that they may be go to Disneyland at some point.

I'm not bothered by any type of stroller, small, med, or whatever this SUV thing is. If the child is comfortable, thats all that matters. Coz, on the flipside, if that child wasn't able to take a nap in the "said" stroller imagine the meltdown that would ensue.

I also just bought a $2,300 stroller, just for Disneyland. My son is disabled and can't tell you how many times I accidently took out ppl's shins, last year w/his wheelchair. if you were one of them, I'm truly sorry. And don't worry, this isn't an SUV, I carefully measured the wheelbase, and length, just so I won't be "rude"

p.s Disneyland in 2wks!!

So jealous! I don't get to go til September.

 

[dbbydk]

The op stated their opinion, agree to disagree (and I am not directing this at anyone specific) and worry about yourself and your family while in the park.

But, if we were to just worry about ourselves, and our family, then we are doing exactly what the OP is annoyed with: thinking of our own comfort and no one else.

 

[jilld11]

To Leazel specifically:

I absolutely understand that ther are speciall needs for different types of people. I am sure you ran into people not meaning to and were apologetic. Most people don't mean to run into people. That is not even the worst of my complaints. Let's be honest, stuff happens. It is the people in front of you that don't care they are taking up so much room that it doesn't matter who is behind them. The people who jam their huge stroller into an elevator, who go to supper and park it in the middle so they block the path to the restroom. Again, all about manners, but most people with these huge things don't take others into consideration. If they did, they wouldn't have brought them in the first place.

I don't want to sound like I am backtracking for special needs people to sound more likeable, I think that it is kind of known or just courtesy (I don't know the right word to use here w/o sounding like a kiss butt or anything),but I am sure we all understand that certain cicumstances require certain measures.

I don't think I said that properly, but i hope my message still got out.

Just not backdowning on the fact people need to respect others and that you may dodge everyone in front of you successfully, but the people behind you are stuck there waiting for you to make your move. Very frustrating, especially when you choose to stop and give you child a treat or bottle in front of a bunch of people and you didn't have the decency to pull over with your enourmous stroller.

Very frustrating!!!

 

[3Minnies1Mickey]

Yup and some have said in this thread that those with big strollers are more considerate then others.

See how both sides are arguing about the other generalizing, and yet it appears they are both doing it?

The op stated their opinion, agree to disagree (and I am not directing this at anyone specific) and worry about yourself and your family while in the park.

People have expressed their experiences. Some have found those with large strollers try to be more considerate about how they operate them and others haven't. I've seen both actions. My only gripe about OPs message is that it has nothing to do with how those with large strollers operate them...just the fact that they use them automatically makes them rude. She's entitled to her opinion. She can even express it freely, but if she's not willing to take the backlash of such an inflammatory post she may want to choose her audience better. I think most would be on board with a complaint about getting hit in the ankles or blocking walkways (including families without strollers). The complaint about the size just because it takes more space than OP prefers is just ridiculous.