How many others feel the same way about the fact that NOONE can post anything anymore

[N.Bailey]

Originally posted by tmq2766
The CB used to be a fun place where you could actually post and not worry about being attacked yes attacked it is not constructive critisism it is just certain people surfing the boards looking for people to hurt! This is why everyone wants the debate board back so certain posters can go back and debate and belittle all they want!!!!!!
The sad part is that thesa posters are not only on the CB but they have invaded other boards as well.
Like Thumper said "If you can't say somethin nice don't say nothin at all"!!!!!!

I see you've been around since 2002. Long enough IMO to know, this was happening on all the boards long before the DB was shut down.

Trust me when I say, I had read on many boards where people would come to the CB and were treated so bad these people had to run back to their board (either resort board, or restaurant board, them park strategies) and let everyone else know what was said. I never heard anyone complain about people on the DB, unless of course, they were complaining on the DB. The CB is the last board on The Dis that I ever visited for this very reason and I only came here after the DB closed down hoping to find some answers. Now that I'm here, I see it's not what everyone made it out to be, but I assure you, lots about CB'ers was said over the years.

 

[caitycaity]

Originally posted by debster812
*wading back in*

You know what else? Online, we do not have benefit of tone of voice, intonation, and volume. We also do not have benefit of facial expression and body language. I *think* quite a bit gets lost in the translation, so to speak. It is much harder to interpret what someone might 'mean' to say.

That being said:

Just as there may well be people here on the DIS who want nothing more than to stir the pot, cause trouble, and pick fights, my opinion is that there are just as many who are looking to find an insult in almost everything that is posted to them, in reference to them, or in their general direction. (disclaimer--NO I am NOT blaming the victim, just an observation).

Hey, I got caught up in something about a year and a half ago, where one well known pot stirrer posted something ridiculous and inappropriate on a thread of mine. The uproar was incredible. The pot stirrer was ultimately banned (and came back). You know what, we all survived.

Hey--at the risk of being a rose colored glasses wearing CB-er: I hope everyone has a very nice, restful, and stress free weekend.

Debbie

i agree with you about the facial expressions and tone. i know i have posted stuff here before that people took the wrong way. we were able to work it out, but it is hard sometimes.

 

[tiggersmom2]

Originally posted by ripleysmom
See what I mean about the PMs (or even email). Oooohhh....there are 3 mean people on the CB, let's all PM each other about who they really are. Worse than high school.

The same thing happen with those threads where people are handing out hugs yet those same people are PMing each other to talk smack about the OP.

The OP (and others) may not like the people that are speaking their mind or offering their true opinions but you can be damn sure that there are a lot more people who offered PD and {{{{HUGS}}}} that are PMing each other with the same exact comments. If nothing else at least you now know what kind of knife is being passed around.

I agree with this post. I also like the CB the way it is now. If a thread offends you, just back out - nobody is holding a gun to your head to read the post or to participate in it.

 

[goofy4tink]

I have no problem if you disagree with me. It actually can make for a lively discussion. But, and this is where I get a little cranky folks, don't call me stupid or tell me I just don't get it if I don't have the same opinion as you do. I think that's the basic issue. Yes, I do disagree with EsmeraldaX about different dog breeds. But I don't think I upset her or insulted her. (if I did, I apologize!) You can have differing opinions and still be 'nice'. No, not sicky sweet nice, sugar coated...just polite. The world can use some fluff as well as mannerful debates. Isn't the CB big enough for both? If I want to send someone some good thought or prayers or god forbid pixiedust....how does that hurt you? If you want to get into a heated discussion about John Kerry's ineptitude, fine...no skin off my bottom. (not that I would disagree or agree btw!!) I say behave as you would if the person was standing in front of you, face to face. But watch out for that sarcasm...it tends to be my personal downfall!! No one ever sees my 'tongue in cheek'.

 

[DisneyMagicTravis]

Originally posted by Miss Jasmine
This is not directed at anyone in particular, I was just thinking.

Disgareeing with someone is not being mean, or bullying or picking on them. When you post a question, you should expect to get an answer, and it may not be in agreement to what you are thinking. We ALL have different opinions, and there is no reason why we can't share them. It is not personal, although some people take it that way.

I would have to agree with you on this. I also might add, how much can a discussion board really impact someone's life? I don't think I could ever lose any sleep over the DIS...

 

[LScot]

Originally posted by snoopy
Of course, this goes without saying. The thing is, there is a HUGE difference between disagreeing with someone and bullying them. Its all the delivery. Most have the ability to disagree and still maintain civility, some don't. Bullies do exist here on the DIS, on the schoolyard, in the office, just about everywhere you find a large group of people you'll find a few people who feel better when they are attacking or putting down someone elses character. I don't think that is particularly shocking that it happens here, but I do find it shocking that some people don't think it exists.

Happy weekend all! I hope everyone who is feeling bad goes out and takes advantage of the great big world AWAY from the PC this weekend.

Amen, Snoopy!! Great post!

OP-Only 3? I can think of way more than that! LOL
To me, there is a difference in debating and the nasty posts. I rarely read a debate thread and see the bullies there like on the the more innocent threads. The nasty people are miserable and want you to be too ("misery loves company") so they try there darnest to make you feel like crap.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Originally posted by goofy4tink
I have no problem if you disagree with me. It actually can make for a lively discussion. But, and this is where I get a little cranky folks, don't call me stupid or tell me I just don't get it if I don't have the same opinion as you do. I think that's the basic issue. Yes, I do disagree with EsmeraldaX about different dog breeds. But I don't think I upset her or insulted her. (if I did, I apologize!) You can have differing opinions and still be 'nice'. No, not sicky sweet nice, sugar coated...just polite. The world can use some fluff as well as mannerful debates. Isn't the CB big enough for both? If I want to send someone some good thought or prayers or god forbid pixiedust....how does that hurt you? If you want to get into a heated discussion about John Kerry's ineptitude, fine...no skin off my bottom. (not that I would disagree or agree btw!!) I say behave as you would if the person was standing in front of you, face to face. But watch out for that sarcasm...it tends to be my personal downfall!! No one ever sees my 'tongue in cheek'.

If I made you feel bad, I apologize.

I tend to forget what is said in most threads, unless it really bothers me. Don't recall anything you've ever posted that really bothered me. I hope I didn't say something mean in a thread to you without meaning to

 

[cati]

Of course, this goes without saying. The thing is, there is a HUGE difference between disagreeing with someone and bullying them. Its all the delivery. Most have the ability to disagree and still maintain civility, some don't.

ITA. I would also like to add that I HAVE NOT emailed, pm'd anyone with the names of the three I was referring to. I did not post this to try to insult, hurt, or anything else to these that I was thinking of. I wont say who I was referring to. It really does not make any difference who they are.

The debate boards were not the main issues. It was just the advice, off-the-wall (but serious at the same time) threads. It was the fun ones. It's pretty much all of them at one time or the other. It did not matter who the person was who posted the original OP.

I think it is fine to disagree with someone. Just do it like the OP is standing in front of you, dont "hide" behind the PC. Do it with respect to the others feeling.

Now if you want to talk about the debate boards, well, I am republican, BUT, my uncle, my dad, my step-mom, my step-brothers are all democrat. We joke, we talk, we disagree. But we do it laughing, and we still like each other when it is all done and over with. We dont put each other down, try to make each other feel stupid or embarrassed. It is OK to disagree. God did not put us here on earth to agree with each other on every single issue. But he does say to LOVE one another. Maybe we can not LOVE one another, but we sure can treat each other with respect, KINDNESS, and think about the other person's feelings as we type!!

 

[Dan Murphy]

Well said, Snoop. (You have a way with words sometimes )

I do see the bullies here, always have. I mentally ignore them, best I can. Over the past 5 years, I have seen two 'people' who had found their way to the DIS and were bent on hurting other people here on the DIS. They were both just mean individuals who relished in hurting, not just the bullying we all see on a rather ongoing basis. Real Internet trash. For those two, I used the ignore feature so as to minimize my exposure to them both. Thankfully they were both tossed, multiple times, as they returned (never did figure that one out, returning after you are banned , you are not wanted, go elsewhere). As far as I can see, they both are not around anymore. The 'playground bullies' are, but the hurtful ones are not.

 

[CyranoJones]

Back in 1998, when I first started participating in the DIS, I remember Pete coming in quite frequently making scathing posts about the "mean" people and how they would not be tolerated. So as far as I see it, not much has changed.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I have no idea who the terrible "three" are, Cati, but you got some good advice earlier in this thread on how to handle the nasties.

Ignore them, either with the ignore feature, or ignore them in your head. Or like Faith said, type a response that makes you feel better, but don't submit it.

Using "Report This Post to a Moderator" won't help you, I'm sorry to say. There is only so much the mods and WMs can do to keep away problem posters.

There are a number of folks here who have been banned multiple times because of their nasty personalities. They wait a few days after their banning, then register a new username.

I'm told that some internet services give their users a scrolling IP address, and there's not much board administrators can do to keep out undesirables who use those internet providers.

That's very evident here on the DIS, Cati. For example, I know of one DIS poster who's on the fifth username (and that's ones I know of) since I've been here. You think someone like that would take the hint. Clearly, they are not wanted or welcomed by the people who run the board, yet they refuse to stay away.

I don't know what to say about such a person. Hopefully, for the sake of their co-workers and neighbors, they are less obnoxious in real life.

(Can you imagine going back repeatedly to try and shop in a store where the manager asked you to stay the heck out? If you had an ounce of respect for others or yourself, you definitely wouldn't.)

As far as someone "peeing on your leg and telling you it's rain," there's plenty of that happening all over this thread, Cati.

You and I know your original complaint isn't about disagreeing with other's opinions or not getting sugar-coated pixie dust. No matter how much some here are trying to say that's the case.

No, you're talking about people who are outright belligerant and nasty. I don't know the specific three you're referring to, but I can think of a few who fit that description.

Sorry, Cati. Other than ignoring or fighting back with them, there's really nothing that can be done about it.

Yet, there are some great people here. Pay attention to them and cultivate their friendships. They'll make your time here worthwhile.

 

[Planogirl]

Ooh, let's guess who Dan is talking about. Just kidding!

Seriously, I'm reminded of school in some ways or a big workplace. There will be people that you really, really like, some that are OK, many you don't know and a few that you just can't get along with. I think it's natural.

 

[Mad4Mickey]

I know how you feel . I just use the ignore feature when I know I will not be able to tolerate someone. I dont always agree with everyone and that is ok . I dont think people should be mean , but they are .

I have just found groups that have really nice people in them and stay there If I want nasty , evil, rude, and mean I can get that in the "real" world LOL
. I like pretending that everyone on here is nice

 

[Elwood Blues]

*yawn *

YAIMTDB thread.

 

[Elwood Blues]

If NOONE can post anything anymore, who's posting all these messages?

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by ripleysmom
See what I mean about the PMs (or even email). Oooohhh....there are 3 mean people on the CB, let's all PM each other about who they really are. Worse than high school.

The same thing happen with those threads where people are handing out hugs yet those same people are PMing each other to talk smack about the OP.

The OP (and others) may not like the people that are speaking their mind or offering their true opinions but you can be damn sure that there are a lot more people who offered PD and {{{{HUGS}}}} that are PMing each other with the same exact comments. If nothing else at least you now know what kind of knife is being passed around.

I'm sorry but I have to say this. What the in the world are you talking about?

Yes, people talk their friends about what they think. You don't have your <i>own little place</I> where you can go and talk smack about people and offer your special friends {{{hugss}}}?

I think you should understand. Or at least not throw stones.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by JerseyJanice
I have no idea who the terrible "three" are, Cati, but you got some good advice earlier in this thread on how to handle the nasties.

Ignore them, either with the ignore feature, or ignore them in your head. Or like Faith said, type a response that makes you feel better, but don't submit it.

Using "Report This Post to a Moderator" won't help you, I'm sorry to say. There is only so much the mods and WMs can do to keep away problem posters.

There are a number of folks here who have been banned multiple times because of their nasty personalities. They wait a few days after their banning, then register a new username.

I'm told that some internet services give their users a scrolling IP address, and there's not much board administrators can do to keep out undesirables who use those internet providers.

That's very evident here on the DIS, Cati. For example, I know of one DIS poster who's on the fifth username (and that's ones I know of) since I've been here. You think someone like that would take the hint. Clearly, they are not wanted or welcomed by the people who run the board, yet they refuse to stay away.

I don't know what to say about such a person. Hopefully, for the sake of their co-workers and neighbors, they are less obnoxious in real life.

(Can you imagine going back repeatedly to try and shop in a store where the manager asked you to stay the heck out? If you had an ounce of respect for others or yourself, you definitely wouldn't.)

As far as someone "peeing on your leg and telling you it's rain," there's plenty of that happening all over this thread, Cati.

You and I know your original complaint isn't about disagreeing with other's opinions or not getting sugar-coated pixie dust. No matter how much some here are trying to say that's the case.

No, you're talking about people who are outright belligerant and nasty. I don't know the specific three you're referring to, but I can think of a few who fit that description.

That's one BLOCKBUSTER of a post!

 

[ripleysmom]

"I'm sorry but I have to say this. What the in the world are you talking about?"

I am talking about all of the PMing that members of the CB do behind each other's back.


"Yes, people talk their friends about what they think. You don't have your own little place where you can go and talk smack about people and offer your special friends {{{hugss}}}?"

The smack that is said about people is also said to their "faces" on the DIS (isn't that what this thread is about?).


"I think you should understand. Or at least not throw stones."

I'm not throwing stones.....I just don't think that people should complain when they are not given the option of hiding their heads in the sand.

 

[scaryleo]

Whe I said that people should pick up another job if they couldn't make ends meet, you said:

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And it sounds like you might need some compassion. But, hey I'm not going to pass value judgements on you.
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a direct personal attack.
I replied:

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You can judge me all you want. I'm not ashamed of my opinion or your impression of it. As for compassion, I have plenty. I also have little tolerance for governmental handouts. Let private charities tdo the job. Cut our taxes, end social programs. People will give more to charity, & they can do what our government was never designed to do. I've been flat broke & without a home before...never went on the public dole...picked myself up & got back at it. I am not your responsibility to feed, clothe, or provide medicine & doctors. Nor are you mine.
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..addressing the issues.hmmm...don't see any attacks from me yet...it just gets curiouser & curiouser...

your next attack...err post was:

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Why are you even allowed to post? Your getting your jollies from pestering other posters.
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I, in turn responded:

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Responding to questions & attacks, poohbear.
Now move along, you're ill equipped to start anything with me, although you're trying.

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Ahh..I fire a warning shot accros your bow in order to get you to stop.

Your eloquent response was:


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Your not worth my time or energy wdwdvcdad
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Now, with feelings hurt & a tear in my eye, I followed with:


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Witty retort. Obviously I was right. (& it's "you're")
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Since, of course, you proved my point.\

I never attacked you, but you sure went after me (but in a really lame fashion).

As for the stalker comment, ThreeCircles & I have been sharing barbs for quite a while. It had nothing to do with you and went way over your head. Something tells me it is not uncommon.

As for the "I'm telling on you" stuff...gimme a break & grow up



Do you need an Oxygen mask?

Just wondered, seeing as you're so far up your own backside to be able to breath properly!

Hope that didn't go over your head.

 

[snoopy]

Oy.

I guess the above is a good example of why its always great to be perfectly honest and why we as a community should support a board where anything goes?

I have no idea who scaryleo is, or who the poster is he is quoting, but I'd say this is a good example of breaking the civility barrier and just going off into anything goes territory. And I think most of us who have been long time CBers take exception to this sort of negativity that has invaded this community. The post above is riddled with personal attack and breaks all guidelines, is that not evident to most people?