How does trading work??

rbuzzotta

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We are researching Hawaii (have been for a while!!). Kapulua Bay on Maui looks nice. We also want to stay on Oahu but there are no hotels/condo/ offered here.

Do I call MS and ask what is available??? How long do I wait until I have an answer as to wether or not I can get a trade?

Are the trades pretty much comparable?? I know that Disney properties are rated high and will I get a 2 BR for a 2 BR???

Thanks.............
 
Trades are pretty much as nice as DVC. Disney only lets us trade to nice places though not always as nice. You can start a trade for II's 2 years out. For Hawaii that might not be a bad idea. You decide when and where you want to go and call MS. It is better if you are flexible with as many as 3 weeks for options. For Hawaii maybe even several different locations. We have not traded to Hawaii but have to several other locations and have always been happy. The Marriott's are always nice. The only trouble we have found is that we usually get a GV-3 bedrooms. With the trades we haven't had that option. Good luck with your search.
 
Originally posted by rbuzzotta
Are the trades pretty much comparable?? I know that Disney properties are rated high and will I get a 2 BR for a 2 BR???
I would recommend reading in your DVC Member Guidebook how the World Passport Collection works and how the Concierge Collection works. They're very different.

Do you prefer to stay in a deluxe hotel room with twice-daily maid service, a choice of high-end restaurants, and a high level of personal service?

Or do you prefer to stay in a condo with that's like a 1- or 2-bedroom deluxe apartment &#151; where you have a kitchen, you make your own beds, and you have lots of room and privacy?

Essentially, the Concierge Collection gives you the former, and World Passport Collection exchanges through Interval International (II) give you the latter.

Concierge Collection rooms can be booked by the night. At a year out, there should normally be plenty of availability, which will become less and less as the hotel gets booked up. Think of it as using points instead of cash to pay for a hotel room.

At the Concierge Collection hotel on Maui (the Kapalua Bay Hotel) the rooms are undoubtedly large and well appointed, but they aren't like 1BR or 2BR condos at DVC resorts. The point chart for the Kapalua Bay Hotel gives you a choice of garden view, partial ocean view, or ocean view. Needless to say, the point cost goes up as the view improves. The Kapalua Bay Hotel enjoys an excellent reputation.

World Passport Collection resorts (with a few exceptions) involve 7-night stays, usually beginning on a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday night. At a year out, there is typically no availability at all &#151; but as owners book weeks and deposit them with II, those weeks become available to those who have requested to trade in. It's not unusual for II members to request trades to Hawaii two years out &#151; and then to wait at least a year (and sometimes much longer) before a successful trade occurs &#151; if it occurs at all.

We've never traded to Hawaii with DVC, but we've stayed at Marriott's Maui Ocean Club, Marriott's Kauai Beach Club, Kona Coast Resort I, and the Embassy Vacation Resort at Poipu (and at various hotels on Oahu, Maui, Kauai, and the Big Island). We would gladly stay at the two Marriott properties again. They combine many of the best qualities of a hotel and a timeshare resort &#151; in a similar way as BWV, BCV, or VWL. The Kona Coast Resort was somewhat of a disappointment, but we really liked the Big Island of Hawaii, and we would stay there again if we didn't have a better choice. We felt that the Embassy on Poipu really missed the mark; we would not stay there again.
 
Werner gave good advice.

I would like to add that we DID do a Hawaii trade, and plan to start a search again next month. You wont find a trade into Oahu, because a lot of the timeshares there are inferior to DVC. I would reccomend doing a trade to one of the outer islands, Maui, Kauai, or Hawaii, and doing a couple of nights in a hotel on Oahu. Inexpensive rooms are easy to come by a couple blocks from the beach, and the beaches on the other islands are much better anyway. We like to start out on Oahu for one night and end there for a couple nights before flying home. Last time we got some great hotel deals with an air/hotel package through NWA. It gave us less expensive airfare too, and we used their hotel package for the end of the trip, but were able to take advantage of the air package and add the inter island travel. We had a 1 week exchange on Kauai (Princeville area) and another one on Hawaii (Kona). We have done Hawaii quite a few times, but this was our first DVC trade experience. I would and will do it again!
 

Thanks Merilyn, Werner and Diane for the great advice. What worries me is the "waiting" to see if you get a reservation!! I need to know when I make plans and what they are.....I guess I am a chronic planner!!

So, with that, it looks like the Conceirge Collection would fit my bill. I guess we could use that at Kapulua Bay and then fly over to Oahu and stay cash somewhere for another week.

Has anyone stayed at Kapaulua Bay??? What is the difference in the hotels vs. the condo section??? We may need the condo because there are 5 of us and I don't know if we could fit in one hotel room (I would be reluctant to get 2 unless they could guarantee the were connecting!!).

Thanks again....
 
Originally posted by rbuzzotta
Thanks Merilyn, Werner and Diane for the great advice. What worries me is the "waiting" to see if you get a reservation!! I need to know when I make plans and what they are.....I guess I am a chronic planner!!
People who are in this mode should generally not plan on trading timeshares. There is certainly a lot of planning and waiting involved along with some risk that it may never happen or will be too late to make other arrangements like air fare.
 
I agree, Dean! I figure I will try, and if it doesn't work out, I'll try again later or plan a seperate trip through other means. Doing timeshares in Hawaii is dangerous anyway!! We wanted to buy in everywhere we stayed!:p
 
Originally posted by dianeschlicht
I agree, Dean! I figure I will try, and if it doesn't work out, I'll try again later or plan a seperate trip through other means. Doing timeshares in Hawaii is dangerous anyway!! We wanted to buy in everywhere we stayed!:p
LOL, we want to buy in places we haven't even visited yet. Timesharing can get VERY expensive.
 
Thanks Dean, that is what I kinda figured!!! I wish I could relax and wait things out but I am too compulsive when it comes to my vacations!!!
 















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