Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

["Got Disney"]

Hi my fellow Hillary supporters.

I haven't been on here lately. I am having computer problems. I can only read out on the web, I can't respond or log in to sites. I am at my mom's and I told her I need to use her computer

I think Hillary did fairly well in Mississippi yesterday. Of course she lost, we all knew that was going to happen (because of the heavy black population), but it was not a overwelming loss.
I read that Obama got like 90% of the black votes but only 25% of the white votes in Mississippi

The thing is, is Mississippi isn't a Dem state, it will go on the Red side in November.

I do think Obama is losing momentum. I think with this break in the action until Penn. will hurt Obama more then it will Clinton.

I am not sure what is going to happen, it is anyone's game still.
I can see this Obama and Clinton thing dividing a lot of Dems though. If their candidate doesn't get the nom then that is it, they will sit out or vote for the other guy.
I do not want to vote for Obama and to be honest I REALLY do not know if I CAN vote for him if push came to shove. Something about the man rubs me the wrong way and I am very leary of him running the country.

The sad thing is I can easily see McCain becoming our next President. There are too many people that won't vote for Clinton if she gets the nom and there are just as many people that won't vote for Obama either!

Where I live it probably won't matter. Minnesota has always been blue, even Walter Mondale won Minnesota when he ran again Reagan! The only way I can see that changing is if our current gov. gets the VP nod on McCain's ticket. His name has been thrown out here and there on different news channels.
If he gets on the ticket with McCain, then I think Minnesota for the first time since as far back as I can remember will be up for grabs

Just wanted to say hi to my fellow Hillary supports.
Here's to Pennsylvania

Right back at ya here's to you getting your comp fixed soon

 

["Got Disney"]

found this interesting......from the Rassmussen report....seems more Obama voters will vote for Hillary if she gets the nod than Hillary voters will vote for Obama if he gets the nod....was it not the other way around before....

Obama Wins Mississippi, Both Campaigns Look to Pennsylvania


Tuesday, March 11, 2008
As expected, Barack Obama won a solid victory in Mississippi today. The results had little impact on expectations for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. A couple of hours after the polls closed, Rasmussen Markets data gave Obama a 77% chance of winning the nomination. That’s little changed from before the Primary (current pricing 76.3contract_id = 68180;node_id = 7608 + "_" + 664;new Ajax("/extension/ajax/intrade_lastprice.php", {data: 'contractID=' + contract_id,method: 'get',update: $('intrade_' + node_id)}).request(); %).
As expected, the election in Mississippi divided sharply along racial lines.
Exit polls showed that Obama won African-American voters 90% to 10% while Clinton won White voters 73% to 26%. That’s precisely the dynamic projected by Rasmussen Reports polling which had showed Obama leading 80% to 12% among African-American voters while Clinton held a 47% advantage among White voters (see Rasmussen Reports Pre-Election Video Analysis).
Exit polling also confirmed a growing division among Democrats with Clinton voters more negative towards Obama than the other way around. This, too, was seen in the pre-election polls. The Rasmussen Reports poll found that just 34% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Obama while 56% of Obama voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton.
If Obama is nominated, just 47% of Clinton voters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for Obama in the general election against John McCain.
If Clinton is nominated, 65% of Obama voters say they are at least somewhat likely to vote for her against McCain.
The Rasmussen Reports poll also found that Clinton receives favorable views from 72% of White voters and 66% of African-American voters. Fifty percent (50%) of White voters have a Very Favorable opinion of her while just 25% of African-American voters say the same.
Obama is viewed favorably by 92% of African-American voters and just 44% of White voters. Seventy-eight percent (78%) of African-American voters in Mississippi have a Very Favorable opinion of Obama. Just 19% of White voters share that view.
Next up is Pennsylvania on April 22, where Clinton enjoys a fifteen-point lead. But, there are six long weeks until voters go to the polls in the Keystone State.

 

[JARNJ3]

Hi my fellow Hillary supporters.



I do think Obama is losing momentum. I think with this break in the action until Penn. will hurt Obama more then it will Clinton.

I am not sure what is going to happen, it is anyone's game still.
I can see this Obama and Clinton thing dividing a lot of Dems though. If their candidate doesn't get the nom then that is it, they will sit out or vote for the other guy.
I do not want to vote for Obama and to be honest I REALLY do not know if I CAN vote for him if push came to shove. Something about the man rubs me the wrong way and I am very leary of him running the country.

The sad thing is I can easily see McCain becoming our next President. There are too many people that won't vote for Clinton if she gets the nom and there are just as many people that won't vote for Obama either!

Where I live it probably won't matter. Minnesota has always been blue, even Walter Mondale won Minnesota when he ran again Reagan! The only way I can see that changing is if our current gov. gets the VP nod on McCain's ticket. His name has been thrown out here and there on different news channels.
If he gets on the ticket with McCain, then I think Minnesota for the first time since as far back as I can remember will be up for grabs

Just wanted to say hi to my fellow Hillary supports.
Here's to Pennsylvania

I agree also - I can see this thing slipping away to McCain unless our two candidates get together and find common ground.

I for the first time ever find myself considering voting for a republican - McCain - and I can't be alone. Ugh. I think a lot of Hillary's senior and women support might do the same. There goes FL again......

Unfortunately - the way things are going - one side of the party is going to be greatly annoyed and angry enough to vote for the other party and the other side may choose to stay home.

I don't see how the person who comes in second isn't the VP choice.

 

[JARNJ3]

I find solace in this article:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=4430817

Time on Her Side: Obama Maintains Lead, but Clinton Might Have the Edge
Intense Democratic Primary Voting Takes a Break as Intense Contest Continues
By RICK KLEIN

March 12, 2008—

The Clinton campaign plans to use the coming six-week gap in primary voting to aggressively push its case that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., lacks the necessary experience to be president as the superdelegates loom by far as the most important voters in the race.

After Obama's Tuesday win in Mississippi, the strategy of defining the Illinois senator while the delegate count stays essentially frozen reflects a belief by Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign advisers after withstanding perhaps the roughest month of Clinton's presidential campaign that the New York senator now has a powerful ally on her side: time.

Waiting It Out

Mississippi marks the last primary or caucus for a six-week stretch by far the longest pause in this year's nomination fight.

That gives Clinton a chance to battle Obama without time pressures that magnify every moment on the trail, allowing her to make a deliberate and methodical case in favor of her candidacy and against Obama's.

"When a team comes from far behind to tie it, that team usually comes back and does well," said Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist with close ties to the Clinton campaign. "This period is going to cause people to really think through who is best able to match up with John McCain."

Obama has drawn considerable momentum in the race by winning caucuses and primaries.

His victory in Saturday's Wyoming caucus, coupled with another win in Mississippi, mean he's on track to reclaim most or all of the delegates he lost with Clinton's resounding victories in the far larger states of Ohio and Texas last week.

But Clinton's campaign has proved more adept at seizing control of the race when no one is voting.

Just in the past few weeks, Clinton has kept pressure on Obama with a stinging TV ad suggesting he's unprepared to serve as commander in chief; left him on the defensive over NAFTA and controversial comments made by a high-level foreign-policy adviser; and made headlines by suggesting publicly that Obama could be considering as her running mate.

Keying Up Pennsylvania Vote

The lull in the voting action is likely to include several debates in Pennsylvania, a format in which Clinton has typically excelled.

It will also allow the Clinton campaign to work to find a way for Florida and Michigan to have their votes count; both states favor Clinton demographically, and a solution that allows those state delegations to be seated at the convention is likely to cut into Obama's delegate lead.

And the next primary on the calendar -- Pennsylvania, April 22 -- is in a large, diverse state that's similar to others that have leaned toward Clinton.

Clinton has maintained a solid lead in Pennsylvania polls, and Obama's advisers acknowledge that their candidate is the underdog in the Keystone State.

A win there would add to Clinton's delegate count, pull her close in the overall popular vote and strengthen her campaign's argument that she's best suited to carry the important states on the presidential map.

"It could be, to some extent, a split decision," said Steve Grossman, a former Democratic National Committee chairman who is backing Clinton. "There should be no rush to judgment now, since we have a lot more evidence to gather."

- click link for the rest of the article.........

 

[Planogirl]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23745079]I heard that her rally's there have been Obama like rallys with thousands of people. I am so bummed bummed bummed that when she was just 15 minutes from me I could not go and take my son with me.....would have bben great....now all I can do is live vicariously through you all that have gone and are still waiting to go.....[/QUOTE]
She had a rally like that at the Fort Worth Stockyards. I really wanted to go but couldn't.

 

[Planogirl]

I agree also - I can see this thing slipping away to McCain unless our two candidates get together and find common ground.

I for the first time ever find myself considering voting for a republican - McCain - and I can't be alone. Ugh. I think a lot of Hillary's senior and women support might do the same. There goes FL again......

Unfortunately - the way things are going - one side of the party is going to be greatly annoyed and angry enough to vote for the other party and the other side may choose to stay home.

I don't see how the person who comes in second isn't the VP choice.

A few Hillary supporters have told me recently that they intend to vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination. I hope that it's just aggravation talking and that they don't really mean it.

 

[Planogirl]

Edited because i''ve got to quit responding to BO supporters in the HC thread.

Exactly!

There's no point in it IMO plus there's plenty of other threads to argue in.

 

[PrincessMomto2]

A few Hillary supporters have told me recently that they intend to vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination. I hope that it's just aggravation talking and that they don't really mean it.

First of all I an so happy to see this thread. I'm definitely for Hillary. Well to answer your statement above there was a poll done a week or so ago. It stated that 20% of Hillary supporters will not vote for B.O. they will switch over and vote for McCain.

Anyhow glad to be here!

Go Hillary!!! We are here for you!

 

["Got Disney"]

First of all I an so happy to see this thread. I'm definitely for Hillary. Well to answer your statement above there was a poll done a week or so ago. It stated that 20% of Hillary supporters will not vote for B.O. they will switch over and vote for McCain.

Anyhow glad to be here!

Go Hillary!!! We are here for you!

Welcome and that is what I found and posted also earlier today...here is part of what the article read for those that may have missed it

Exit polling also confirmed a growing division among Democrats with Clinton voters more negative towards Obama than the other way around. This, too, was seen in the pre-election polls. The Rasmussen Reports poll found that just 34% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Obama while 56% of Obama voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton.
If Obama is nominated, just 47% of Clinton voters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for Obama in the general election against John McCain.
If Clinton is nominated, 65% of Obama voters say they are at least somewhat likely to vote for her against McCain.

 

[JARNJ3]

First of all I an so happy to see this thread. I'm definitely for Hillary. Well to answer your statement above there was a poll done a week or so ago. It stated that 20% of Hillary supporters will not vote for B.O. they will switch over and vote for McCain.

Anyhow glad to be here!

Go Hillary!!! We are here for you!

Welcome!!

NJ here also!!!!!

 

[marybet]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23766675]Welcome and that is what I found and posted also earlier today...here is part of what the article read for those that may have missed it

Exit polling also confirmed a growing division among Democrats with Clinton voters more negative towards Obama than the other way around. This, too, was seen in the pre-election polls. The Rasmussen Reports poll found that just 34% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Obama while 56% of Obama voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton.
If Obama is nominated, just 47% of Clinton voters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for Obama in the general election against John McCain.
If Clinton is nominated, 65% of Obama voters say they are at least somewhat likely to vote for her against McCain.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps this means that the Obama supporters are true Democrats and realize how bad McCain would be for the country.

There is an article saying that some Republicans are voting for Clinton because they think she will be easier to beat. That could explain why they are saying they will vote for McCain.

 

["Got Disney"]

So has anyone seen the video on Obamas Paster well his recently retired paster comments with his sexual bumping and grinding and racial remarks it was terrible? They showed the bumping and grinding referring to Bill Clinton and his affair. They cut that part out over the last few times I saw it. That guy is a joke and have no idea why Obama associated himself with that church with a minister like that...

And the new one is no better. The new one/Rev was shown on video also remarking to Hannity with a gang like attitude. I must say that I don't see Obama as a racist but I do question his wife.

That church is scary and I have been to many a black church when I was a Jesus freak because I loved the energy at them and they were never like that!!!! and if they were I would have turned around and walked out.

I would be afraid to go into the Trinity church in fear of being beat up for being white.

 

[chris1gill]

Perhaps this means that the Obama supporters are true Democrats and realize how bad McCain would be for the country.

There is an article saying that some Republicans are voting for Clinton because they think she will be easier to beat. That could explain why they are saying they will vote for McCain.

A full 24% of Hillary's support last night came from Mississippi Republican's ... Rush's influence at work... while ripping the party apart... Hello President McCain....

 

[akhenaten]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23767273]have no idea why Obama associated himself with that church with a minister like that...

QUOTE]

Why don't you read "dreams from my father" by Barack , you will learn how he found that church.......

 

["Got Disney"]

Perhaps this means that the Obama supporters are true Democrats and realize how bad McCain would be for the country.

There is an article saying that some Republicans are voting for Clinton because they think she will be easier to beat. That could explain why they are saying they will vote for McCain.

But there are also many rep voting for Obama for the same reason...so they just cancell each other out. As for the true democrates it has shown that Hillary is getting more of the TRUE democratic voters than Obama is.....so that cant be it....

The Hillary suppoorters that I knw that wont vote for Obama are ones that are tired of how they mesia has been bias and also that they dont see him as experianced and other reasons.

 

[JARNJ3]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23767394]But there are also many rep voting for Obama for the same reason...so they just cancel each other out. As for the true democrats it has shown that Hillary is getting more of the TRUE democratic voters than Obama is.....so that cant be it....

The Hillary supporters that I know that wont vote for Obama are ones that are tired of how they media has been bias and also that they dont see him as experiienced and other reasons.[/QUOTE]


According to what I've read - here is the breakout:

Clinton: blue collar workers, senior citizens, white women, hispanics

Obama: African Americans, affluent democrats, white men (who are not blue collar workers).

Apparently - most Hillary haters\Obama fervent supporters are on the internet - but make up only 20% of the democratic population.

Most voters would vote for either candidate - and most voters want a joint ticket of some sort.

I read an article though that said if Clinton wins the nom - a lot of young people and some African American people would stay home and not vote. But if Obama wins it - then a portion of seniors and the white women would vote for McCain ...........

Also - a majority believe the media has been unfairly tougher on Clinton than Obama.

No I don't have the links readily handy for these facts - its out there though.

And yes - I am one who may not vote - or may pull the trigger for McCain - though - this recent statement from Obama is giving me pause:

Obama said he did not think Clinton's campaign was deliberately stirring racial divisions.

and

On another racially tinged issue, Obama said recent comments by Clinton fundraiser Geraldine Ferraro about his candidacy were ridiculous, but not racist.

Honestly - I just don't see him doing well against McCain during the debates. I don't think he has enough experience, and he'd have to learn on the job.

If he wins the nod - I hope I can be won over.

And yes - I know the Supreme Court is at stake - and I originally said I'd vote D just for that (as I usually do) - but if the worse case scenario were to happen and Roe v Wade were overturned - I'd take to the streets in a heartbeat -- with the rest of those outraged.........

 

[Free4Life11]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23767273]So has anyone seen the video on Obamas Paster well his recently retired paster comments with his sexual bumping and grinding and racial remarks it was terrible? They showed the bumping and grinding referring to Bill Clinton and his affair. They cut that part out over the last few times I saw it. That guy is a joke and have no idea why Obama associated himself with that church with a minister like that...

I would be afraid to go into the Trinity church in fear of being beat up for being white.[/QUOTE]

I would too.

He sounds like a very scary man and appears to be full and full of anger and hate. Not a healthy way to live, not to mention this is not a man I would seek spiritual guidance from! He seems to have a deep hatred for America and it sounds like he would be better off moving back to the "mother land" where he would feel more at home. My person opinion is that, yes, Christians should preach against social injustice but at the end of the day it is about Salvation, not health care.

 

[Planogirl]

Perhaps this means that the Obama supporters are true Democrats and realize how bad McCain would be for the country.

There is an article saying that some Republicans are voting for Clinton because they think she will be easier to beat. That could explain why they are saying they will vote for McCain.

Those who told me that are definitely "true" Democrats.

I can't speak for those who were polled but there's also the feeling that Obama is way more Liberal than Hillary so supposedly some Conservatives say that IF a Democrat HAS to win then Hillary is the lesser of two evils.

 

[Planogirl]

I would too.

He sounds like a very scary man and appears to be full and full of anger and hate. Not a healthy way to live, not to mention this is not a man I would seek spiritual guidance from! He seems to have a deep hatred for America and it sounds like he would be better off moving back to the "mother land" where he would feel more at home. My person opinion is that, yes, Christians should preach against social injustice but at the end of the day it is about Salvation, not health care.

You'll hear that Obama isn't responsible for what this man says and I agree. I think the same applies to Hillary when someone involved with her says goofy things though.

 

[Planogirl]

A full 24% of Hillary's support last night came from Mississippi Republican's ... Rush's influence at work... while ripping the party apart... Hello President McCain....

Never mind... Rush is an idiot and I refuse to assume he has that much power. Now I'm the one responding the jabs! No more.