Hillary supporters Unit #3 ..yes we are still here!

["Got Disney"]

What I don't understand is why Obama is going after Palin. She is not running for office; McCain is. By going after Palin, Obama makes himself look like as inexperienced as he is.

I don't get it either..seems he is helping her become more of a Rock star by keeping her in the headlines with his comments.

(Another republican chiming in) I agree with you. He has been going after her, all the while saying he is not going to engage in insults. Then he declares, "Enough", once he got in his big dig. It wasn't, "enough" before he got called on it. He's all over the place.

Yes he is doing what he said he did not want to do but he was also doing it with Hillary but more subtle. He would get his digs in and than in so many words he would say...who me I didn't do that

I am sure Hillary is laughing her butt off right about now

Got to admit I totally agree with Biden

I don't think Biden would step down though. It would make Obama look like he doesn't know what he is doing. Obama would not go for that, IMO.
Talk about a major flip flop

Obama DID pick the wrong person for the VP job. He let his ego get in the way instead of thinking about the Country. Everyone knows Obama did not want to share the limelight with Hillary. His ego WILL cost him the election & in private I am sure Hillary is sitting back with a glass of wine and

You betcha she is...she is also doing this because she was the right candidate at this time. Obama needed IMO to wait 4 more years

It still still Obama's race to lose and by being lackluster and (well let's face it-boring) he's doing a pretty good job of it.

Agreed but he was always the Rock Star...he is no longer that. He has fizzled in many ways and he needs to find a way to take the attention off of Palin (not by insults) but by outsmarting her.

He needs to say...Ya know what enough is enough and I don't want to play theses games anymore...this is not who I am or what my campaign is about so from know on I will stick to the issues. However if I find that you are wrong about something that I will let the American public know why not with opinion but with facts.

I'm still waiting for the debates personally. Those will tell much and will also be a nice refreshing break from foolishness about pigs wearing makeup, pregnant teenagers, shady friends and relatives and so on. This campaign season is wearing me down!

Oh me so much to...cant wait

Many senior people in the DNC think the situation is much worse than that:

Autumn Angst: Dems fret about Obama
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13357.html

That was a good read...thanks

 

[moon]

Actually I think that Hillary will feel a lot like many of us will if that happens. Completely torn and concerned. There is no winning in this situation. We've got two of the crappiest candidates we've ever had.

If McCain and Palin win, I will feel some pride that a woman has finally made it to the White House, but sad that it's someone who's beliefs I find completely repugnant. Knowing someone like her is so close to the presidency terrifies me. As much as I loathe Obama - I can't take any joy in imagining his loss. There's way too much at stake. And I'm sure Hillary feels the same.

ITA (except for the part about having a woman finally make it to the WH. There will be so much fear from me that there will no be any room for anything else). I can't imagine Hillary feeling any joy at this situation. I'm sure she's worried about the furure of the country, as many of us are.

 

["Got Disney"]

thought I would post this....to show that children also were effected by 9/11 even at young ages...

my son at age 11 drew this picture from the above picture. It was for a national contest about "every child has a voice" he chose this picture to show that he has a voice even though he is young about what happened on 9/11...he won a award for it.

 

[moon]

Got Disney, that's a great drawing. You can see he was very touched by the tragedy. No wonder he won.

Your son is very talented!

 

["Got Disney"]

So my friends where were you when you hered the news of 9/11?...the day we all became just Americans and no DEMS or REP or anyother political group....

I was in bed...we live in California so the time was just past 6am...my DH came in and said a plane had crashed into one of the twin towers....I said what.... was anyone hurt...he said they had no idea how many...he said it was said to be a small plane The next thing you see is the other plane...OMG!!!!!!!! than reality struck...than the other planes

I think most of us were glued to that TV for weeks ...I was so numb...I felt such despair that the US had changed in just a moment. I was so fearful for my children and what there future would be like at that point. I felt no safety for them at all. It brought back the memories of when I was young and we had the Russian nukes pointed at us.

How easy it was for those Terrorists to do what they did. 2 of the Terrorists lived in my town and worked at the local gas station..who new

seems we took our freedoms for granted and that the GOV was on top of all that. Us as civilians never even thought about such a terrorist act could happen to us...not here in the USA....well again we underestimated the thoughts of crazy people and there radical religion.

 

[punkin]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27508790]So my friends where were you when you hered the news of 9/11?...the day we all became just Americans and no DEMS or REP or anyother political group....
[/QUOTE]

I really try not to remember. My daughter (then aged 8) was in school in Manhattan and I had no way to get to her. Until I finally saw her (and DH) that night, I was completely insane. We are still dealing with the psychological after-effects on her.

 

["Got Disney"]

I really try not to remember. My daughter (then aged 8) was in school in Manhattan and I had no way to get to her. Until I finally saw her (and DH) that night, I was completely insane. We are still dealing with the psychological after-effects on her.

We had a friend that worked in the Trade center at the time but got out fine. That had us going crazy. I could not imaging my DH and child in Manhattan at the time with no way to get in touch with them...

We were going crazy and our kids were safe with us during the first 2 planes.. School here also went on which was good because if they were home here with us as frantic as DH and I were with the news on they would have felt it more.

The school kept things structured and off the subject. The school was at the bottom of the hill so if we needed to get them we could get them.

Dh and I were in no shape to do both. I could not imagine them so far away from me and in Manhattan....I just couldn't

how is she today????? hard to forget something like that

 

[Mr Man]

I was on a tele-conference call with UK, when someone came running in the room and said that a plane had hit the World Trade Center.

We switched the Monitor over to local news...........and stayed in the conference room for the next 7 hours........

Part of me is still in that conference room, because a different person emerged after watching the events of that day..........

 

["Got Disney"]

Part of me is still in that conference room, because a different person emerged after watching the events of that day..........

Yes I think a different person emerged from all of us that day...I myself have never felt the same since. We no longer look through rose colored glasses do we.

 

[Chuck S]

Mom & I were at a Marriott in Buena Park, planning to have breakfast at Knott's then spend the last day of our trip at Disneyland, which of course, never opened. We were scheduled to fly home on the 12th. Some friends in Fallbrook called, and we stayed with them a couple of days, then wound up driving our rental car home.

 

[OceanAnnie]

I was very pregnant, puttering around in our kitchen. I got a call from my mom telling me to turn on the tv. She told me what was happening. I had to hold on to the counter to steady myself. I was glued to the set the rest of the day (and days after). The day was a blur. Numb. Speechless. Distraught.

I think I cried more that day than any day in my life.

Punkin, I can't imagine what you and your family (as well as many others) went through that day. I was on the periphery, but it felt like it was happening to me.

 

[jacksonsmom]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27508790]So my friends where were you when you hered the news of 9/11?...the day we all became just Americans and no DEMS or REP or anyother political group....
.[/QUOTE]

My son, age 2 at the time, just got done with his breakfast. He had cheerios that morning. I had the Today Show on in the back ground. I cleaned him up and started to clean up breakfast.
When I heard Matt and Katie talking about breaking news and that "something" happened at the WTC.
I quickly cleaned up breakfast and went in the living room to see what was happening.

I ended up watching it all unfold, the 2nd plane coming in and both towers come crashing down All I could think about is this is Live and all these people are dying, right in front of my eyes.

Then I remember hearing all these reports of other planes in the air, car bombs, etc. It was crazy and all I wanted to do was make it stop.
I wanted to wake up from this bad dream, but then I realized our World changed in a matter of minutes & it will never be the same

That night I could not stop thinking about all the people going to bed that night without their loved ones. I just hugged my DH and my DS tighter and so Thankful that we were together.

I also remember feeling an unbelieveable PRIDE for my Country.

 

[JARNJ3]

I was at work in Bergen County NJ.

We saw it on the internet - and then put on the radio I had in the office.

A co-worker's husband was in the towers. He called her up to tell her he was ok, and that they told them to stay put. She BEGGED him screaming to not listen and leave. Then she didn't hear from him again until he got home very late that night. He and his coworkers decided not to listen, and left the building. She was SOBBING uncontrollably and someone had to take her home.

Another co-worker's brother worked there too and he was unable to contact him. This co-worker was in his early 20's - and he was SOBBING. Everyone was feeling so helpless - meanwhile - I was scared for my life - we could see the smoke from the towers - and all I kept thinking was "my country is under attack." I couldn't believe it - this happens to other countries - not mine.

Another co-worker, who was Jewish had a fear that the temples would be invaded next. She left to go get her kids.

They called is into a meeting and told us while it was tragic - perhaps working would take our minds off it. I couldn't believe it.

I then was on a conference call with several friends - one who worked for the Federal government in MD, one close to the Sears Tower, and one in southern NJ. They eventually were all told to go home. We were getting the most update news from the BBC website.

I went into my boss and said - you can dock me, but I am leaving. I need to be home. She told me to go home - and not to worry about it. I had an hour commute - and sped the whole way - looking for planes that would attack me, and saw none.

Once home - I was glued to the television, crying as I saw the tragedy unfold.

The personal stories came out positive for us - the co-worker's husband came home safe and sound. The other co-worker's brother? He went outside for a smoke - and debris hit and broke his leg - he was taken to the hospital very early on. My co-worker took a train into the city late that night, and went from hospital to hospital until he finally found him. Later we would joke that smoking saved his life.

Days & weeks later, we would see the air force patrols in our area - a stark reminder of our fragility. In fact two days later - all the contractors in our company were laid off (we worked for Kodak which felt the blow the most - no one traveled for months, many less photos were being taken......)

I know this was unpopular, but that day - I started to truly hate Bush. He was an embarrassment of a president (in my eyes) and he somehow failed to prevent those attacks. I still firmly believe this.

 

[OceanAnnie]

I know this was unpopular, but that day - I started to truly hate Bush. He was an embarrassment of a president (in my eyes) and he somehow failed to prevent those attacks. I still firmly believe this.

I'm not knocking you. You are entitled to your beliefs.

My belief is no one American is to blame for the terrorist attacks. There were failed systems in place long before Bush took office. The terrorists used those systems and our freedoms against us. My anger for the attacks are for the terrorists that have a jihad against all Americans. The jihad is still waged against us, lest we forget.

 

[moon]

I was having one of my usual sleepless nights. I turned on the tv very early in the morning and did some channel surfing. I watched a show which was broadcasting live from the strets of NYC. I had always wanted to go to NYC, so I always enyoyed any live programming from the streets. Seeing people walking in real time, feeling a little like I was there. After a while I turned it off and slept a little, unaware that what I had just seen were the last moments of the NY everyone knew. That when I opened my eyes again, NYC and the world would be changed forever.

My mom woke me up to tell me what had happened. I was in shock, and just couldn't assimilate what was happening. I was glued to the TV like the rest of the world, thinking about those people I had seen on TV less than two hours before going about their business, wondering what had happened to them.

 

[jacksonsmom]

I'm not knocking you. You are entitled to your beliefs.

My belief is no one American is to blame for the terrorist attacks. There were failed systems in place long before Bush took office. The terrorists used those systems and our freedoms against us. My anger for the attacks are for the terrorists that have a jihad against all Americans. The jihad is still waged against us, lest we forget.

I totally agree with you & believe me I am NO Bush fan, but he is not the blame with the attacks or from stopping them. It was a series of failed systems that we were not able to know those attacks were coming.

I do not blame a single person for the attacks, even Bush, those attacks were being plotted and planned long before Bush took office. I hate defending Bush, but to say he didn't stop those attacks I don't think is fair. There were many failed systems, FBI, CIA, miscommunations, etc. It just wasn't one person who didn't stop those attacks.

I soley blame the TERRORISTS & Osama Bin Linden for the attacks & yes they are STILL out to attack us when we least expect it. I just hope now we have a better system in place to stop those attacks.
Yes, this is a MAJOR factor that helped me decide who to vote for in this upcoming election.

 

[Chuck S]

I agree that Bush probably could not have prevented the attacks, but I do hold him responsible for his response to those attacks. Building a false case against Iraq, dismissing intelligence reports and inspector reports that Iraq did not have WMDs, etc.

 

[jacksonsmom]

I agree that Bush probably could not have prevented the attacks, but I do hold him responsible for his response to those attacks. Building a false case against Iraq, dismissing intelligence reports and inspector reports that Iraq did not have WMDs, etc.

I agree Bush messed up with Iraq, no question about that. Although I am glad Sadam Huessin is gone!

Even though I can not stand Bush, I just can not blame him for 9/11 or hate him because he didn't stop it.

 

[punkin]

I agree Bush messed up with Iraq, no question about that. Although I am glad Sadam Huessin is gone!

Even though I can not stand Bush, I just can not blame him for 9/11 or hate him because he didn't stop it.

There are many more valid reasons to despise Bush and really high on my list is the fact that Bin Laden is still at large and apparently Bush does not think that catching him is important.

 

["Got Disney"]

I agree Bush messed up with Iraq, no question about that. Although I am glad Sadam Huessin is gone!

Even though I can not stand Bush, I just can not blame him for 9/11 or hate him because he didn't stop it.

ITA...and Bushy baby is not my bestest friend ever at all....I blame him for many a thing but I also dont hold him solely responsible for many a things. It takes more than one man to spoil the whole bunch...IMO

either way Sadam was a bad bad man that needed to be removed from the face of this Earth....