Hillary supporters Unit #3 ..yes we are still here!

here is the article gmboy is referring to...the man saying all this sounds like he has a lot of hate and maybe even a grudge against him....like i said before ...hard to believe anything about any candidate anymore...because so much is so biased that it's hard to tell the truth from the lies....lots of commentaries out there spewing hate about both candidates and there VP's...what ever happened to good journalism...and Journalists...the commentaters drive me nuts.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";27925580]here is the article gmboy is referring to...the man saying all this sounds like he has a lot of hate and maybe even a grudge against him....like i said before ...hard to believe anything about any candidate anymore...because so much is so biased that it's hard to tell the truth from the lies....lots of commentaries out there spewing hate about both candidates and there VP's...what ever happened to good journalism...and Journalists...the commentaters drive me nuts.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain[/QUOTE]


Like i said...i dont know what to think
 
It is incendiary!!!....i dont know how i feel about it, it was that bad

Okay I started to read it. However There are many people who are quoted saying unflattering things about McCain. However that dont hold spit with me.

The Author might as well say that Charles Manson, former Religious Leader says "McCain ignores Americans for his own private gain" If you dont know who Charles Manson is, then you would say...:scared1: However once you know who Charles Manson is, then you say ...OH PLEASE are they kidding.

For instance in the article here....

Indeed, many leading Republicans who once admired McCain see his recent contortions to appease the GOP base as the undoing of a maverick. "John McCain's ambition overrode his basic character," says Rita Hauser, who served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board from 2001 to 2004.

1) REALLY? Do MANY LEADING REBUPLICANS once admire McCain, now dont???:rolleyes1
2) Who the heck is Rita Hauser??

There was Rita Hauser, the PLO apologist whose law firm, Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, racked up millions of dollars in legal fees over the years as a registered foreign agent of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority. Ms. Hauser met with Mr. Arafat as early as 1988, when America still considered him a terrorist and refused even to allow him access to the United Nations headquarters in New York.

She is also DEEPLY involved with Obama!
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obamas-republicans/83788/


"John has made a pact with the devil," says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague's readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts

Lincoln Chaffee did do something Obama never did. Actually served a full term. But he was voted out, cause franklly he is WEIRD! He said he is a Republican, but I dont think he ever voted Republican. :lmao: Quite the character.


So When the article has unscrupulous and neurotic people bad mouthing John McCain...I take that as a GOOD THING.:thumbsup2

If you are not sure who someone is...GO GOOGLE. In restrospect to Political articles, and quotes....IT IS ALWAYS ..NOT WHAT THEY TELL YOU, But What they dont tell you.
 

Neither was LakeAriel and gmboy95.
You're right. I think it was the drive-by nature of the post that made me say what I did. NOT because he is a McCain supporter. Obviously, there are people on this thread who support McCain, some that support Obama and some people who support neither one! I guess that having so many opposing views in one place coexisting (for the most part) makes it irresistible for people who wish to stir the pot.
 
well the debate is soon and I have again my Salsa and chips :thumbsup2 Nov will be here soon...YAY!!!!!!! cant get here soon enough.

Good luck to both the candidates and hope they both do great because one of them will be our VP and would sure be nice to know they know what the heck they are doing :thumbsup2

Enjoy
 
http://www.justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html

I found this on a Puma website, actually got the link from the hillary clinton forum. What do you guys think of this? I don't know enough either way, I know there are some Obama supporters on here and some indies. Is this for real? Alot of what they say I know to be factual but is it spin that makes it so scary or what?
 
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http://www.justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html

I found this on a Puma website, actually got the link from the hillary clinton forum. What do you guys think of this? I don't know enough either way, I know there are some Obama supporters on here and some indies. Is this for real? Alot of what they say I know to be factual but is it spin that makes it so scary or what?

I can say yes to some but not all because I am not sure of all that it claims only half. I will have to do some research to find out.

As the days move closer to election day I cant help but feel how screwed up ALL of our representatives are. Have they all lost there minds:confused3 .

Don'T think I will ever be able to trust any of them ever again. I cant see ever being able to be able to get out of debt for 9 trillion dollars.

What are we leaving for our children....I also blame many of us folks because we let them get away with it with out a way to make them accountable. We basically said...here's our money do with it or not do with it as you please.

anyway hope your all well and having a great weekend:thumbsup2
 
well...i hate to say i told you so, but that's unfortunately what i've been telling all my republican friends who were hoping that obama would beat hillary in the primaries, since they thought obama would be easier to beat in the election...

between obama and hillary, they actually preferred hillary as president (if they have to have a democrat), but figured obama was an easier opponent so they rooted for him..

i told them, "be careful what you wish for"..

and it looks like i was right...
 
I don't like Hillary! Her politics is bad...

I was for Hillary Clinton 100% right up until she voted 'yes' to the bailout plan and ignored the people's voice.
Now all I want to do is vote her out of office.

Debbie
 
I was for Hillary Clinton 100% right up until she voted 'yes' to the bailout plan and ignored the people's voice.
Now all I want to do is vote her out of office.

Debbie

so than are you not voting at all :confused3 because Obama and MCcain both signed it. All our representitves are boneheads=Ego no matter who we are talking about. Seems no one there listens to the peoples voice.
 
Hillary, you're doing a GREAT JOB. You go girl.:)

"WASHINGTON — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised more than $8 million for former rival Barack Obama's presidential campaign since July and plans to barnstorm the country for even more cash, as the New York senator works to show she is aggressively helping the candidate who cut short her White House bid.

"I am using every tool that I have to help Democrats win," Clinton told USA TODAY. She was between fundraising events in Texas and California that brought in another $1.5 million for Obama and congressional candidates on Friday and Saturday.

Later this month, Clinton will headline Obama fundraisers in Chicago, Philadelphia and Little Rock along with 11 events to raise money for Democratic congressional candidates and state parties.

She is stepping up efforts to get more Democratic women elected to the Senate. On Friday, she issued an e-mail fundraising appeal for Louisiana incumbent Mary Landrieu and challengers Kay Hagan, who is locked in a tight battle against Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina, and former New Hampshire governor Jeanne Shaheen, who is engaged in a repeat of her close 2002 race with GOP Sen. John Sununu.

The former first lady said in the interview late Friday that her goal is straightforward: "We have a lot to repair in America, and I believe that Democratic leadership is essential to fixing the damage that we are going to inherit."
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Clinton, who came closer to claiming a major party's presidential nomination than any woman before her, declined to discuss whether another White House race was in her future.

"I'm looking forward to going to the White House someday and standing there when President Obama signs a bill guaranteeing quality, affordable health care for every American," she said, citing an issue that was a signature of her campaign.

Democratic strategist Tad Devine said Clinton's stature will grow in the Senate no matter the outcome on Election Day because she garnered about 18 million votes in her presidential bid.

Clinton stands to become "the most important woman in American politics" if Democrats win on Nov. 4, he said.

Helping to raise the money to aid Obama and increase Democratic majorities in Congress only enhances that standing, Devine added, because "delivering resources to campaigns is probably the single-most important and difficult thing you can do in politics."

Clinton has hit 40 campaign events for Obama in battleground states from New Hampshire to Nevada in the past two months."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-05-Clinton_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
 
Hillary, you're doing a GREAT JOB. You go girl.:)

"WASHINGTON — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised more than $8 million for former rival Barack Obama's presidential campaign since July and plans to barnstorm the country for even more cash, as the New York senator works to show she is aggressively helping the candidate who cut short her White House bid.

"I am using every tool that I have to help Democrats win," Clinton told USA TODAY. She was between fundraising events in Texas and California that brought in another $1.5 million for Obama and congressional candidates on Friday and Saturday.

Later this month, Clinton will headline Obama fundraisers in Chicago, Philadelphia and Little Rock along with 11 events to raise money for Democratic congressional candidates and state parties.

She is stepping up efforts to get more Democratic women elected to the Senate. On Friday, she issued an e-mail fundraising appeal for Louisiana incumbent Mary Landrieu and challengers Kay Hagan, who is locked in a tight battle against Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina, and former New Hampshire governor Jeanne Shaheen, who is engaged in a repeat of her close 2002 race with GOP Sen. John Sununu.

The former first lady said in the interview late Friday that her goal is straightforward: "We have a lot to repair in America, and I believe that Democratic leadership is essential to fixing the damage that we are going to inherit."
FIND MORE STORIES IN: United States | California | Florida | Congress | Texas | White House | Philadelphia | North Carolina | United States Senate | Miami | Illinois | Barack Obama | Louisiana | John McCain | New Hampshire | New York | Chicago | Fort Lauderdale | Little Rock | Nevada | Sen. Obama | Tad Devine | Jeanne Shaheen | President Obama | Mary Landrieu | Lynn Forester de Rothschild | Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole

Clinton, who came closer to claiming a major party's presidential nomination than any woman before her, declined to discuss whether another White House race was in her future.

"I'm looking forward to going to the White House someday and standing there when President Obama signs a bill guaranteeing quality, affordable health care for every American," she said, citing an issue that was a signature of her campaign.

Democratic strategist Tad Devine said Clinton's stature will grow in the Senate no matter the outcome on Election Day because she garnered about 18 million votes in her presidential bid.

Clinton stands to become "the most important woman in American politics" if Democrats win on Nov. 4, he said.

Helping to raise the money to aid Obama and increase Democratic majorities in Congress only enhances that standing, Devine added, because "delivering resources to campaigns is probably the single-most important and difficult thing you can do in politics."

Clinton has hit 40 campaign events for Obama in battleground states from New Hampshire to Nevada in the past two months."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-05-Clinton_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

funny where was Obama when it came time for her to be VP.....seems he didnt need her than :confused3
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";27992833]so than are you not voting at all :confused3 because Obama and MCcain both signed it. All our representitves are boneheads=Ego no matter who we are talking about. Seems no one there listens to the peoples voice.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know.Don't remind me.
Well one of them is going to be president and right now (or at least for another 4 years) there's not much we can do about it.So let's hope whomever it is is for the people.I know it's alot to ask for...

Debbie
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";27997332]funny where was Obama when it came time for her to be VP.....seems he didnt need her than :confused3[/QUOTE]

As a lifelong Dem, I still argue that Hillary's support for BO is the right thing and that she is sincere in strongly preferring him to McCain.

She's not the kind to live a lie, supporting someone she hates. My DH hopes every day that she becomes the next Surpreme Court nominee....
 
As a lifelong Dem, I still argue that Hillary's support for BO is the right thing and that she is sincere in strongly preferring him to McCain.

She's not the kind to live a lie, supporting someone she hates. My DH hopes every day that she becomes the next Supreme Court nominee....

I understand that. And I agree for her it is the right thing. But I still will argue that she is not doing it for Obama she is doing it for her party. I cant say who she would really prefer as for the individual.....but her issues are Democratic. Yet if it came down to the person only, setting issues aside I have no doubt she would be on the side of McCain.

Part of me wants Obama to win so we can be done with all this....all the new that people think he is bringing but really cant deliver. In addition to him having this special ness about him being the first Black POTUS. And dont take this statement the wrong way.

if he is not in and McCain gets in than we will have to go through all this again in 4 years.At least in 4 years he will have lost his hold on some not all that he has now and they will see what he really is ..just another politician.

If he gets in and Rocks the world by doing all he says he is going to do and turns out to be a great POTUS than I will eat my words to everyone. But personally that is not how I see it.

However..if he(Obama) gets in and fails it will be Bushs mistakes and the REP fault...not his...so the OS will say...nothing will be his fault ever.

If McCain gets in and does a crappy job it will be because of his mistakes and no one else's.....and all the OS will say...see we told ya.

Than in 2012 I see it going 2 ways....he will have lost his hurrah with many of the voters because they had there hero voted in as they wanted....and they will see he is another Politician after all......or....after failing and blaming it all on the REP again.... he will come back with more power ever even if he failed.

In light of the economy this congress and house needs to get there act together or they will all be out of a job.

One thing that does worry me however.....is having a DEM congress and a DEM POTUS and a DEM Supreme court....that to me seems very one sides or more like socialism...one party calling the shots for us all...there is no balance between the two.

I have always believed that we should have 50/50 Dems/REP/Supreme court justices......that is what makes the country more balanced. We are not a people of only Democrats we are a people of many religions, and understandings of how we want to see this world be.....telling everyone that the DEM way is the only way is a dictatorship IMO.....and it will make for a very unhappy more than half of the people in the USA....

WE need balance.
 

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