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perlster --
I have to thank you again, for being quick to gather info from the "credible source"
and bring it to us here (and also in the Christmas Superthread)! Clearly we cannot rely on Disney to give accurate information some of the time, so it helps to get that info from other sources (even if they are not official).
I knew that the prices you mentioned before couldn't have been complete, and that there had to be a separate discount price for AP holders/DVC owners and Disney Visa peeps. Based on last year's discounts, I was guessing that this year's discounts would be a few bucks more -- and $51 seems to be right in the range I would have expected it to be, so that makes sense.


I don't know if anyone noticed, but I posted in the Comments under the Halloween Time Disney Parks Blog, and I mentioned to Erin that the Backstage Pass newsletter gave an incorrect date for the MHP to start. Not only is 9/30 not the start date, but it's not even included in the roster of party nights!!!
Erin was silent and did not comment - not even to say "Oops!" I am betting that the Parks Blog peeps didn't even know what the AP Backstage Pass peeps were doing. They are probably not kept apprised of info at the same times, in the same ways. But what a major goof on Disney's part!


My thoughts on a few party-related subjects (which I have stated before, but new people are joining the thread so I will state them again)...
Tickets Selling Out:
Last year there were 11 party nights, up from 10 nights in the previous years. (This year we have 13 parties.) All of the party nights except for the one immediately preceding Halloween sold out in advance. The party immediately preceding Halloween stayed open much longer, and I think it finally sold out a couple of nights before Halloween, or at the last second.
Not only did at least 10 of the 11 nights sell out last year, they also sold out much faster than we expected. One by one by one they were selling out, which surprised at least some of us.
I have always noticed that the very first night of the party sells out pretty fast, and Halloween night will as well. There is a certain novelty to both of those nights that makes them more appealing.
So if you want to go to the MHP on 9/27 or 10/31, I would not wait too long to get your tickets. However, I do not think the tickets will sell out right away -- you will have a bit of time to get them. The extra 2 party nights this year will help to give extra options.
Party Crowds:
I have noticed that the 3 hours of overlap time (when the non-party guests and party guests can be in Disneyland at the same time, starting at 3 p.m. or 4 p.m.) are very crowded.
Once the non-party guests leave, crowds gather in different areas.
There are always crowds waiting for the Halloween Screams fireworks.
There are always long lines at the character photo spots.
There are always long lines for certain treat trails/stations -- but, as has been previously mentioned, the treat lines move fast so don't be daunted if you see a long line.
There are always people milling about in the various walkways, just as you would see on any normal park day or night.
The party did not feel very exclusive or un-crowded to me when I last went. There were more people there than I would have preferred. People were banging into my ankles with strollers. I think Disney sells too many tickets to the events.
The lines for some rides can be short to non-existent. However, you will probably still encounter crowds at the really popular rides, such as Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy and Haunted Mansion Holiday.
I don't know how many tickets Disney sells to each party night, but IF they sell the same number of tickets to each party night and each party sells out, then the number of people in the parks should be roughly the same. However, people come and go and congregate in different spots. Some folks don't come to the party until they have eaten. Some people eat at the party. Some people leave in the middle of the party, head to DCA to ride some things and then come back. Some local folks may leave early if the party is on an earlier weeknight and they have to work the next day, while they may stay later at a Friday party.
So it is possible that even if the same number of tickets are sold on certain nights and all nights sell out, the overall crowd dynamic could shift throughout the night and it could seem like it is less crowded on one night or another. But I wouldn't necessarily count on that pattern to repeat every year because things do change and people wander around to different spots.
Candy/Treats:
The candy is your basic stuff -- mini-Milky Ways, Snickers, Twix, Kit Kats, Nestle Crunch, Dots, some candy that no one has ever heard of, etc. Lots of Tootsie Roll stuff, of all sizes and flavors, and Tootsie Pops too. There are also healthy treats like raisins, apple slices, baby carrots, etc. Don't expect the CMs to hand you the healthy stuff -- you will usually have to ask them for it most of the time.
If you stop at each trail you will collect a lot of candy, as there could be anywhere from 2-5 stations along each trail. You can also revisit each trail and station if you want to.
Bring or buy extra bags, as the little piddly bag they give you when you enter the park is not enough to hold the stash you will collect!
The CMs stationed near the exit to DL will hand out a bunch of candy at the end of the night, just to get rid of it, I think.
Costumes:
You do not have to dress up if you don't want to. It seems to be about 50% in costume and 50% not in costume. You won't feel out of place if you are not in costume, but you will get a big kick out of the elaborate, clever costumes that other people are wearing. There are any number of giant crayons, giant chickens, giant gumdrops, rag dolls and faux Disney character costumes wandering around the park. Some of them are really amazing and creative!
No Ticket Selling or Buying On this Forum!
It is inevitable that someone will not be able to get tickets for the night he/she wants. This will probably happen to many people. It is also inevitable that someone will buy tickets and then realize they cannot use them for some reason.
First of all, the MHP tickets are not for resale. Aside from that, there is no selling on this board.
Do not try to buy tickets, get people to sell you tickets, or try to sell your own tickets on this forum. We caught many threads with these intentions last year, despite some of the OPs' claims that they were not really trying to buy or sell.
We didn't just fall off of the turnip truck, and we can tell when someone is fishing for tickets or hoping to sell.
Don't try it. We know it happens -- we know that people sell tickets. Just don't do it here on this forum, or the thread will be locked and/or deleted. I'm just letting you know now, so we can all avoid these issues later on. Fair warning!
I have to thank you again, for being quick to gather info from the "credible source"

I knew that the prices you mentioned before couldn't have been complete, and that there had to be a separate discount price for AP holders/DVC owners and Disney Visa peeps. Based on last year's discounts, I was guessing that this year's discounts would be a few bucks more -- and $51 seems to be right in the range I would have expected it to be, so that makes sense.



I don't know if anyone noticed, but I posted in the Comments under the Halloween Time Disney Parks Blog, and I mentioned to Erin that the Backstage Pass newsletter gave an incorrect date for the MHP to start. Not only is 9/30 not the start date, but it's not even included in the roster of party nights!!!

Erin was silent and did not comment - not even to say "Oops!" I am betting that the Parks Blog peeps didn't even know what the AP Backstage Pass peeps were doing. They are probably not kept apprised of info at the same times, in the same ways. But what a major goof on Disney's part!



My thoughts on a few party-related subjects (which I have stated before, but new people are joining the thread so I will state them again)...
Tickets Selling Out:
Last year there were 11 party nights, up from 10 nights in the previous years. (This year we have 13 parties.) All of the party nights except for the one immediately preceding Halloween sold out in advance. The party immediately preceding Halloween stayed open much longer, and I think it finally sold out a couple of nights before Halloween, or at the last second.
Not only did at least 10 of the 11 nights sell out last year, they also sold out much faster than we expected. One by one by one they were selling out, which surprised at least some of us.
I have always noticed that the very first night of the party sells out pretty fast, and Halloween night will as well. There is a certain novelty to both of those nights that makes them more appealing.
So if you want to go to the MHP on 9/27 or 10/31, I would not wait too long to get your tickets. However, I do not think the tickets will sell out right away -- you will have a bit of time to get them. The extra 2 party nights this year will help to give extra options.
Party Crowds:
I have noticed that the 3 hours of overlap time (when the non-party guests and party guests can be in Disneyland at the same time, starting at 3 p.m. or 4 p.m.) are very crowded.
Once the non-party guests leave, crowds gather in different areas.
There are always crowds waiting for the Halloween Screams fireworks.
There are always long lines at the character photo spots.
There are always long lines for certain treat trails/stations -- but, as has been previously mentioned, the treat lines move fast so don't be daunted if you see a long line.
There are always people milling about in the various walkways, just as you would see on any normal park day or night.
The party did not feel very exclusive or un-crowded to me when I last went. There were more people there than I would have preferred. People were banging into my ankles with strollers. I think Disney sells too many tickets to the events.
The lines for some rides can be short to non-existent. However, you will probably still encounter crowds at the really popular rides, such as Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy and Haunted Mansion Holiday.
I don't know how many tickets Disney sells to each party night, but IF they sell the same number of tickets to each party night and each party sells out, then the number of people in the parks should be roughly the same. However, people come and go and congregate in different spots. Some folks don't come to the party until they have eaten. Some people eat at the party. Some people leave in the middle of the party, head to DCA to ride some things and then come back. Some local folks may leave early if the party is on an earlier weeknight and they have to work the next day, while they may stay later at a Friday party.
So it is possible that even if the same number of tickets are sold on certain nights and all nights sell out, the overall crowd dynamic could shift throughout the night and it could seem like it is less crowded on one night or another. But I wouldn't necessarily count on that pattern to repeat every year because things do change and people wander around to different spots.
Candy/Treats:
The candy is your basic stuff -- mini-Milky Ways, Snickers, Twix, Kit Kats, Nestle Crunch, Dots, some candy that no one has ever heard of, etc. Lots of Tootsie Roll stuff, of all sizes and flavors, and Tootsie Pops too. There are also healthy treats like raisins, apple slices, baby carrots, etc. Don't expect the CMs to hand you the healthy stuff -- you will usually have to ask them for it most of the time.
If you stop at each trail you will collect a lot of candy, as there could be anywhere from 2-5 stations along each trail. You can also revisit each trail and station if you want to.
Bring or buy extra bags, as the little piddly bag they give you when you enter the park is not enough to hold the stash you will collect!
The CMs stationed near the exit to DL will hand out a bunch of candy at the end of the night, just to get rid of it, I think.
Costumes:
You do not have to dress up if you don't want to. It seems to be about 50% in costume and 50% not in costume. You won't feel out of place if you are not in costume, but you will get a big kick out of the elaborate, clever costumes that other people are wearing. There are any number of giant crayons, giant chickens, giant gumdrops, rag dolls and faux Disney character costumes wandering around the park. Some of them are really amazing and creative!
No Ticket Selling or Buying On this Forum!
It is inevitable that someone will not be able to get tickets for the night he/she wants. This will probably happen to many people. It is also inevitable that someone will buy tickets and then realize they cannot use them for some reason.
First of all, the MHP tickets are not for resale. Aside from that, there is no selling on this board.
Do not try to buy tickets, get people to sell you tickets, or try to sell your own tickets on this forum. We caught many threads with these intentions last year, despite some of the OPs' claims that they were not really trying to buy or sell.
We didn't just fall off of the turnip truck, and we can tell when someone is fishing for tickets or hoping to sell.

