"Frozen Ever After" or "Frozen Until It Breaks Again"?

[CS Torkelson]

Anyone have knowledge as to what's happening with the Frozen Ever After ride being shut down a few times? I know that once Elsa's arms stopped working, and then another time it had to be evacuated before the ride finished.

 

[TXHauntedMansionFan]

Two potential reasons:

1. It's a new ride that may have some bugs that unfortunately need to be worked out to the detriment of those having to wait in the long hot line to get to ride..

OR

2. Disney was concerned that people on the internet were running short on things to get upset by and wanted to make sure those people were covered

 

[AngiTN]

Anyone know why the Frozen Ever After ride keeps breaking?

It's mechanical. Mechanical things break. Most every ride at Disney breaks down at some point or other.
I've purposely avoided learning much of anything about the ride itself, don't want to spoil my surprise next month. But DH has told me they have aminitronics that make 7 Dwarfs look like 20 year old tech. Maybe they just are struggling with keeping them from malfunctioning? Sometimes things work fine for short times but when you start to run them for hours and hours day after day they don't. Honestly, just toss out guesses

 

[nilla]

Two potential reasons:

1. It's a new ride that may have some bugs that unfortunately need to be worked out to the detriment of those having to wait in the long hot line to get to ride..

OR

2. Disney was concerned that people on the internet were running short on things to get upset by and wanted to make sure those people were covered

#2 sounds the most plausible.

 

[nilla]

But DH has told me they have aminitronics that make 7 Dwarfs look like 20 year old tech.

The animatronics are absolutely amazing. We rode it last Wednesday, and I was blown away by it. It's definitely the most technologically impressive ride I've seen at WDW.

 

[Stacy's a freak]

It's seriously breaking down already? Sheesh. What has happened to Disney? From the Disco Yeti to the Sunken Rivers of Light and now the new Frozen ride is breaking? And the Frozen ride is just a reboot of the existing Maelstrom ride so you would think the ride mechanics would be sound so it must be the animatronics. I wonder if the imagineers are having their budgets reigned-in or they are trying to keep up with Universal's competition so much that they are trying to invent things that are just not possible. Lately it seems to take forever for Disney to get anything done OR they rush things and do not do them correctly. Something is wrong.

 

[jimim]

I think it might make it through its first day. It's still open today.

 

[CS Torkelson]

It's seriously breaking down already? Sheesh. What has happened to Disney? From the Disco Yeti to the Sunken Rivers of Light and now the new Frozen ride is breaking? And the Frozen ride is just a reboot of the existing Maelstrom ride so you would think the ride mechanics would be sound so it must be the animatronics. I wonder if the imagineers are having their budgets reigned-in or they are trying to keep up with Universal's competition so much that they are trying to invent things that are just not possible. Lately it seems to take forever for Disney to get anything done OR they rush things and do not do them correctly. Something is wrong.

Maybe they've had their hands full with getting Shanghi opened?

 

[SgtTibbs]

Pet peeve #9231: Not knowing something but taking a blind guess at explaining it anyway.

I can't see a thing on the surface of Venus. Why not? Because it's covered with a dense layer of clouds. Well, what are clouds made of? Water, of course. Therefore, Venus must have an awful lot of water on it. Therefore, the surface must be wet. Well, if the surface is wet, it's probably a swamp. If there's a swamp, there's ferns. If there's ferns, maybe there's even dinosaurs.

Observation? "I can't see anything". Conclusion? Dinosaurs.
- Carl Sagan.

 

[AngiTN]

Pet peeve #9231: Not knowing something but taking a blind guess at explaining it anyway.



Observation? "I can't see anything". Conclusion? Dinosaurs.
- Carl Sagan.

What? So people are tossing out guesses as to what may be wrong? If people didn't do that there wouldn't be a need for most message boards

 

[epcotty]

I wonder what the map looks like. Does it say Arendelle instead of Norway? Do they have CMs say "Welcome to the (cough) fictitious land of Arendelle?" I'm sure they'll try to present it as a real country however

 

[JimmyV]

What? So people are tossing out guesses as to what may be wrong? If people didn't do that there wouldn't be a need for most message boards

Ooooh. This could get fun!

Nikola Tesla said:
FEA runs on electricity. And the ride is breaking down, so it must not be getting enough power. And WDW sources a lot of power from solar collectors. And if the solar collectors are not processing enough electricity, then the sun must be burning out. And if the sun is burning out, then the world is coming to an end.

Observation? FEA is breaking down. Conclusion? The world is coming to an end. And based on the reactions on this board, I'd day that's just about right!

 

[andyman8]

Interesting few tidbits I've learned about FEA over the course of the last few days, so I thought I'd share what I could.

This may go without saying but the ride apparently wasn't even fully ready by 6/21 for opening. They hadn't finished all of their tests, but given what happened with RoL and PR in general lately, they insisted that it was going to open on 6/21. CM training was also rushed apparently, so they're still trying to figure out the optimal FP+ to standby ratio.

As a result of not having this ratio down, Disney has restrained itself a bit with FP+ distribution for this attraction (thank goodness, can you imagine if they hadn't!). According to Josh from easyWDW.com, they haven't distributed any FP+s for before 11am for this attraction from July 1 and beyond, so he says it's a possibility that some more may become available. He also put together a fantastic chart of wait times and downtime (that or when it was not accepting standby are in red) for FEA's first week (warning: not pretty). Here's the link to that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl-w0F8WMAE38wH.jpg:large

Also, on a related note, I've heard from a number of solid sources and first-hand reports that Disney has been playing with grossly exagerating the posted standby wait lately. This was not the case over the course of FEA's first few days of operation, but I've seen quite a few reports from different times and days over the weekend of waits being posted of 180+ minutes and standby guests finding actual waits to be blow 45 minutes. I guess the goal here is to keep it open so it remains an option for people so they don't complain but to keep the wait so high that most people balk at the posted wait and do something else. Not saying that a high posted wait at FEA guarantees a much shorter actual wait but if you're willing to take the risk, it might be worthwhile. Not sure if this is something they'll be continuing though, so I'll keep everyone updated.

 

[CS Torkelson]

Pet peeve #9231: Not knowing something but taking a blind guess at explaining it anyway.
Observation? "I can't see anything". Conclusion? Dinosaurs.
- Carl Sagan.

What? So people are tossing out guesses as to what may be wrong? If people didn't do that there wouldn't be a need for most message boards

9,231 pet peeves. That's a lot.

 

[JimmyV]

He also put together a fantastic chart of wait times and downtime (that or when it was not accepting standby are in red) for FEA's first week (warning: not pretty).

Thanks for the info. And the link. The color "red" that Josh used in his chart is eerily similar to the color of Pepto Bismol. Coincidence? I think not!

 

[CS Torkelson]

Interesting few tidbits I've learned about FEA over the course of the last few days, so I thought I'd share what I could.

This may go without saying but the ride apparently wasn't even fully ready by 6/21 for opening. They hadn't finished all of their tests, but given what happened with RoL and PR in general lately, they insisted that it was going to open on 6/21. CM training was also rushed apparently, so they're still trying to figure out the optimal FP+ to standby ratio.

As a result of not having this ratio down, Disney has restrained itself a bit with FP+ distribution for this attraction (thank goodness, can you imagine if they hadn't!). According to Josh from easyWDW.com, they haven't distributed any FP+s for before 11am for this attraction from July 1 and beyond, so he says it's a possibility that some more may become available. He also put together a fantastic chart of wait times and downtime (that or when it was not accepting standby are in red) for FEA's first week (warning: not pretty). Here's the link to that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl-w0F8WMAE38wH.jpg:large

Also, on a related note, I've heard from a number of solid sources and first-hand reports that Disney has been playing with grossly exagerating the posted standby wait lately. This was not the case over the course of FEA's first few days of operation, but I've seen quite a few reports from different times and days over the weekend of waits being posted of 180+ minutes and standby guests finding actual waits to be blow 45 minutes. I guess the goal here is to keep it open so it remains an option for people so they don't complain but to keep the wait so high that most people balk at the posted wait and do something else. Not saying that a high posted wait at FEA guarantees a much shorter actual wait but if you're willing to take the risk, it might be worthwhile. Not sure if this is something they'll be continuing though, so I'll keep everyone updated.

Super interesting.

 

[SgtTibbs]

What? So people are tossing out guesses as to what may be wrong? If people didn't do that there wouldn't be a need for most message boards

They could still be used to post actual information.

Interesting few tidbits I've learned about FEA over the course of the last few days, so I thought I'd share what I could.

This may go without saying but the ride apparently wasn't even fully ready by 6/21 for opening. They hadn't finished all of their tests, but given what happened with RoL and PR in general lately, they insisted that it was going to open on 6/21. CM training was also rushed apparently, so they're still trying to figure out the optimal FP+ to standby ratio.

As a result of not having this ratio down, Disney has restrained itself a bit with FP+ distribution for this attraction (thank goodness, can you imagine if they hadn't!). According to Josh from easyWDW.com, they haven't distributed any FP+s for before 11am for this attraction from July 1 and beyond, so he says it's a possibility that some more may become available. He also put together a fantastic chart of wait times and downtime (that or when it was not accepting standby are in red) for FEA's first week (warning: not pretty). Here's the link to that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl-w0F8WMAE38wH.jpg:large

Also, on a related note, I've heard from a number of solid sources and first-hand reports that Disney has been playing with grossly exagerating the posted standby wait lately. This was not the case over the course of FEA's first few days of operation, but I've seen quite a few reports from different times and days over the weekend of waits being posted of 180+ minutes and standby guests finding actual waits to be blow 45 minutes. I guess the goal here is to keep it open so it remains an option for people so they don't complain but to keep the wait so high that most people balk at the posted wait and do something else. Not saying that a high posted wait at FEA guarantees a much shorter actual wait but if you're willing to take the risk, it might be worthwhile. Not sure if this is something they'll be continuing though, so I'll keep everyone updated.

 

[Accident]

I know somewhere in the last couple years disney made a procedure that if a ride can't be restarted after it was stopped, then you have to evacuate it and get guests off so they can do something else. IIRC water rides it's something like 20 minutes but each ride has a time before you have to get everyone off if you can't restart it..

If they are evacuating, it sounds like a sensor is tripping or there is a legit problem with the water, pumps, etc..


I believe this policy started about the same time a lawsuit against an airline was filed for wrongful imprisonment. There is a legal time that people need to be let out and frankly, who wants to sit on a ride for an hour waiting to see if they can get it moving again..

 

[CS Torkelson]

I know somewhere in the last couple years disney made a procedure that if a ride can't be restarted after it was stopped, then you have to evacuate it and get guests off so they can do something else. IIRC water rides it's something like 20 minutes but each ride has a time before you have to get everyone off if you can't restart it..

If they are evacuating, it sounds like a sensor is tripping or there is a legit problem with the water, pumps, etc..


I believe this policy started about the same time a lawsuit against an airline was filed for wrongful imprisonment. There is a legal time that people need to be let out and frankly, who wants to sit on a ride for an hour waiting to see if they can get it moving again..

Makes sense. Thanks.

 

[Planogirl]

Two potential reasons:

1. It's a new ride that may have some bugs that unfortunately need to be worked out to the detriment of those having to wait in the long hot line to get to ride..

OR

2. Disney was concerned that people on the internet were running short on things to get upset by and wanted to make sure those people were covered

There's already plenty to be upset about. Disney, if you're listening, quit making this ride break down!